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The website listed for f(x) just lists coming soon?
(I very much want to give you money for this...)
Can't wait for the sale!
The sale actually starts in 2 weeks, so there will be more on the site when it is ready to rock.
This is going to raise a whole lot of "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!", I guess. Nice.....
Paul
Great offer! Guess it's time to get into SMDs.
But I want it now! Can't wait!
$3000.00, are you serious? You could raise that tonite!!! Very much looking forward to see what comes of this venture. I'm hoping you guys don't go all "Mike Mathews" on us... ;D
I'm in for the packet. That's a fundraiser? Feels like Christmas for ME. ;)
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Are there any more details about that Greasegun?
Nevermind, will buy.
Same here. Buying sight unseen, I highly doubt any of these is a dud. I don't really need any of these per se, but that never stopped me before. ;D
Ten more days! I wish we could get BOMs for these ahead of time, Xmas mailing season is always the worst time to stock up on missing parts...
They are new therefore I must build them.
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Quote from: Clayford on November 04, 2013, 09:45:46 AM
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Thanks, that is the one I couldn't find.... :D I must say, I forgot I saw the SMD part somewhere..... Well, I'll buy them anyway, and order a magnifying glass somewhere.......
Paul
Quote from: DutchMF on November 04, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
Thanks, that is the one I couldn't find.... :D I must say, I forgot I saw the SMD part somewhere..... Well, I'll buy them anyway, and order a magnifying glass somewhere.......
Paul
Only one has SMD - and I've seen a few folks using usb microscopes for doing them. Time to order that fine point conical tip!
At first I was thinking that I didn't really need any of these, then I thought about how many boards I've etched for free because the Bean has been so generous in sharing his designs. Even if I never build them (which I will of course) I still need to support this as a show of appreciation. Thanks Brian for all you've given to us.
Take my money indeed
Quote from: Clayford on November 04, 2013, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: DutchMF on November 04, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
Thanks, that is the one I couldn't find.... :D I must say, I forgot I saw the SMD part somewhere..... Well, I'll buy them anyway, and order a magnifying glass somewhere.......
Paul
Only one has SMD - and I've seen a few folks using usb microscopes for doing them. Time to order that fine point conical tip!
I did the Fuzz Face side of the fundraiser board without a magnifier or microscope. I didn't even use a flux pen. Just a fine tip and a very conservative application of solder.
Quote from: culturejam on November 04, 2013, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: Clayford on November 04, 2013, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: DutchMF on November 04, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
Thanks, that is the one I couldn't find.... :D I must say, I forgot I saw the SMD part somewhere..... Well, I'll buy them anyway, and order a magnifying glass somewhere.......
Paul
Only one has SMD - and I've seen a few folks using usb microscopes for doing them. Time to order that fine point conical tip!
I did the Fuzz Face side of the fundraiser board without a magnifier or microscope. I didn't even use a flux pen. Just a fine tip and a very conservative application of solder.
I'm really not intimidated by SMD, no, really, I'm not....... OK, I AM! ::) It's just that I was really kinda proud of mastering this soldering stuff in the first place. I still remember when my first boards and parts came in I thought "DAMN! This stuff is really, REALLY SMALL!!!" And that was through-hole.... Anyway, I'll give it a shot, no worries. It's just that I've got big clumsy hands and my eye-sight is not what it used to be......
Paul
Like there was ever any question, but I'm in.
I can see there being a lot of demand for these boards, as well as the built pedals which will follow. This is getting exciting now :)
Quote from: billstein on November 04, 2013, 10:33:40 AM
At first I was thinking that I didn't really need any of these, then I thought about how many boards I've etched for free because the Bean has been so generous in sharing his designs. Even if I never build them (which I will of course) I still need to support this as a show of appreciation. Thanks Brian for all you've given to us.
I am in the same boat. I would love to support this as well as it's some bucks that way as a "thank you" for all the awesome knowledge I have gained since joining.
If some early BOMs could be provided that would be a bonus!
SMD? better order a smaller iron tip....
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Quote from: DutchMF on November 04, 2013, 01:42:03 PM
Quote from: culturejam on November 04, 2013, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: Clayford on November 04, 2013, 10:24:51 AM
Quote from: DutchMF on November 04, 2013, 09:48:33 AM
Thanks, that is the one I couldn't find.... :D I must say, I forgot I saw the SMD part somewhere..... Well, I'll buy them anyway, and order a magnifying glass somewhere.......
Paul
Only one has SMD - and I've seen a few folks using usb microscopes for doing them. Time to order that fine point conical tip!
I did the Fuzz Face side of the fundraiser board without a magnifier or microscope. I didn't even use a flux pen. Just a fine tip and a very conservative application of solder.
I'm really not intimidated by SMD, no, really, I'm not....... OK, I AM! ::) It's just that I was really kinda proud of mastering this soldering stuff in the first place. I still remember when my first boards and parts came in I thought "DAMN! This stuff is really, REALLY SMALL!!!" And that was through-hole.... Anyway, I'll give it a shot, no worries. It's just that I've got big clumsy hands and my eye-sight is not what it used to be......
Paul
Part of the reason that we thought this would be a good entry for many into SMT is that one can start by populating only the Fuzz Face, testing it and then with a bit more comfort, populate the ToneBender side (or not if you don't want to). It's a small parts count fuzz, so there's less to do before finding out of it works.
Now, I HIGHLY recommend a flux pen and tweezers. I will provide Mouser links to those so people can be sure they get the right ones.
Somebody should create mouser boms to make it easier for those of us who are less motivated to do so. ;-)
Quote from: jimilee on November 04, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Somebody should create mouser boms to make it easier for those of us who are less motivated to do so. ;-)
I'm only handling the board I did, but I guarantee you a BOM with Mouser part numbers listed on it will be made available. I realize that ordering SMT parts is a bit different due to all the package sizes, so I want to make it easier for those who may not have done it in the past.
Quote from: pickdropper on November 04, 2013, 08:49:45 PM
Quote from: jimilee on November 04, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Somebody should create mouser boms to make it easier for those of us who are less motivated to do so. ;-)
I'm only handling the board I did, but I guarantee you a BOM with Mouser part numbers listed on it will be made available. I realize that ordering SMT parts is a bit different due to all the package sizes, so I want to make it easier for those who may not have done it in the past.
that sounds great. I was just kidding, but I've never done smt so that'd be helpful for those like me as well! Thank you sir.
SMD isn't really that bad, and you don't need a super fine tip. Having a flux pen (or flux syringe), tweezers, and #2 soldering braid is essential for SMD however. I prefer curved tweezers myself.
Quote from: pickdropper on November 04, 2013, 08:49:45 PM
Quote from: jimilee on November 04, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Somebody should create mouser boms to make it easier for those of us who are less motivated to do so. ;-)
I'm only handling the board I did, but I guarantee you a BOM with Mouser part numbers listed on it will be made available. I realize that ordering SMT parts is a bit different due to all the package sizes, so I want to make it easier for those who may not have done it in the past.
I think we can do a consolidated Mouser BOM for all three boards. However, there may be a few parts that Mouser does not stock (or not cheaply). The DuoVibe uses two LDRs, for example, and those are not usually stocked by Mouser (but cheap and available from Tayda).
I think that it would be cool to get a group buy on any "exotic" parts (LDRs, strange SMD caps, vactrols, weird chips) however if you think you may be getting into SMD (even a little) you should pony up and buy a cheap resistor/capacitor kit. The two most common resistor sizes for pedals are 0603 and 0805, you can find packs on eBay for under $10. Keep in mind (especially if you are new to SMD) that you will lose some of these components. If you drop them on the floor you can pretty much kiss it goodbye!
Working over a magnet is good, or as I like to do - is have a small box with a thin magnet sheet in the bottom where you can source your parts.
Another tip I would share for SMD is to grab some of these storage boxes off eBay. Just search "SMD Storage" and they will pop up. They are spring loaded and open with one hand. Plus they interlock so you can rearrange them as your collection grows. Of course they come in different colors which is cool for different types of components, and if you are going to store SMD ICs in there they even make a black ESD safe version. If you buy 100qty at a time they are about 25c each.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73135424/SMD/Components_box.jpg)
Those are some great tips. Thanks
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Yep, very good advice. I use those same storage containers at home. I use some often larger ones for through-hole capacitors as well.
For the containers, I would recommend getting the anti-static versions for storing transistors, ICs and diodes.
Now, those containers aren't required when you are starting. I made it a long time without them. But if you start doing SMT work on any regular basis, they are invaluable.
Here is a sample of an early build of the GreaseGun. This one gets a little weird at the end because I moved the amp or mic inadvertently (you'll hear the part I'm talking about).
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/madbeanpedals/greasegun[/soundcloud]
Nice clip, Brian!
Here's my older clip of the DuoVibe:
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/effdub/duovibe-demo[/soundcloud]
Nice stuff. Is that an XR2206 in the DuoVibe?
Quote from: jubal81 on November 06, 2013, 07:48:58 AM
Nice stuff. Is that an XR2206 in the DuoVibe?
Nope, nothing that snazzy. Just a recylced optical LFO. :)
Those are great clips, thanks for sharing guys.
Quote from: pickdropper on November 01, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
The sale actually starts in 2 weeks, so there will be more on the site when it is ready to rock.
Only one more night....... Looking forward to this!!!!
Paul
We've got our project docs mostly together. I expect everything will be live by mid-afternoon tomorrow.
Should be a fun saturday then :)
Anxious.
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I really hope you guys all enjoy these projects we've put together. They are fun, unique, and in the true spirit of DIY.
The guys at Function f(x) really appreciate the support of the DIY community. We wouldn't exist with out this great group of fun-loving mavericks. ;D
Listening to the clips as I type. I know I'm going to love them.
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and you thought that the last sale was a board packing nightmare, Brian... :) I hope your papercuts are healed and your scotch tape dispenser fully loaded because here we come! lol
Quote from: culturejam on November 14, 2013, 08:52:51 PM
I really hope you guys all enjoy these projects we've put together. They are fun, unique, and in the true spirit of DIY.
The guys at Function f(x) really appreciate the support of the DIY community. We wouldn't exist with out this great group of fun-loving mavericks. ;D
I couldn't have said it better.
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Quote from: midwayfair on November 15, 2013, 05:59:15 AM
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+1
Are we there yet?
where 8)
hehe, yeah... thanks for the link though.. it saves me a click :)
Josh
I just checked. We are not there yet.
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About two more hours at the most. Page is almost built.
Can't wait! Is the PCB package on a first come first serve basis? Or will you reorder more, if needed, until Dec 1?
Quote from: madbean on November 15, 2013, 08:51:52 AM
About two more hours at the most. Page is almost built.
Nice!!!!! If my larynx wasn't damaged some years ago, I would squeel and giggle like a little girl.....
Quote from: ddog on November 15, 2013, 09:05:57 AM
Can't wait! Is the PCB package on a first come first serve basis? Or will you reorder more, if needed, until Dec 1?
I'm pretty sure we will have enough for everyone. It's hard to predict what the demand will be, but I'm sure we can get some more if we run out.
Quote from: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
Quote from: gtr2 on November 15, 2013, 07:03:20 AM
where 8)
http://function-fx.com/
There! ;D
Jimi, I'm wondering if you're going to be the first to obtain this package, just like with the Tayda coupons....... ;)
Paul
Quote from: DutchMF on November 15, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
Quote from: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
Quote from: gtr2 on November 15, 2013, 07:03:20 AM
where 8)
http://function-fx.com/
There! ;D
Jimi, I'm wondering if you're going to be the first to obtain this package, just like with the Tayda coupons....... ;)
Paul
Yeah, Jimi...when is the next Tayda coupon coming out? I need to place an order :)
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Quote from: DutchMF on November 15, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
Quote from: jimilee on November 15, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
Quote from: gtr2 on November 15, 2013, 07:03:20 AM
where 8)
http://function-fx.com/
There! ;D
Jimi, I'm wondering if you're going to be the first to obtain this package, just like with the Tayda coupons....... ;)
Paul
Yes!! 8)
Okay, it's up! I had to clear my own browser cache, so be forewarned if you do not see the new home page right away.
http://www.function-fx.com/
Sure fire link: http://www.function-fx.com/index.html
Please let me know if you experience any issues with the page otherwise.
Transferred my funds :)
First ;)
Dammit dammit dammit!! Second?
Ordered. The nomojo smd one is scaring the tripe out of me, though.
Same here! And donated as well, you guys are the best, can't wait to see what you come up with!!!!
Paul
Glad I could contribute to this project by buying some boards :) Looking forward to absolutely botching my very first SMD build!
Thanks guys!
Despite the fact that there are a plethora of SMT guides online, I am going to try and throw together a not-too-crappy guide to show how I do it and what tools I find useful. I've put much of the info in posts in the past, but pictures are usually a bit nicer than words.
Donation button is working flawless :D
Oh, my Friday is so much better now.... Glad to help out with my donation, not really enough considering the support given. Wishing the best for Function (fx)!
Kudos gentlemen!
~Mike
Ordered as well. smd here I come!!!! All the best on your new venture :)
Just got mine in! So psyched. You guys will do awesome, I'm sure of it. Thanks for the forum, and all the knowledge over the years!
This is great, Im so excited to build these pedals. Just to clarify I can hook up two 3pdt switches and then have either the tonebender on, the fuzzface on or even both on?
...and i just paid the 33USD thing.
I wish You f(fx) guys all the best!
Cheers!
Quote from: ddog on November 15, 2013, 02:11:05 PM
This is great, Im so excited to build these pedals. Just to clarify I can hook up two 3pdt switches and then have either the tonebender on, the fuzzface on or even both on?
Yep. Each circuit has a dedicated input and output so you can give each it's own switch.
And yes, you could put both on at the same time, but I am not sure you'll want to. :-)
Another brick in the wall!
You gotsta get paid and my paypal monies are on their way.
Best of luck with your endeavour and watch out for those derivatives! Or are you e^x? 8)
Ordered 8)
Well, the Greasegun makes me really happy ... and a little angry. I just spent most of last night planning a layout for Smallbear's Ursa Minor with a MOSFET boost in front ... and the grease gun is basically the same thing with improvements. :P [Edit: I guess it's actually a single Big Muff stage ...]
Huh, I had no idea. I never actually looked at the Ursa Minor. That looks like a neat little boost.
I'm in. Looking forward to the Fuzz. Great combo, small size. SMD make Lilly angry, but germanium trannies make Lilly smash.
I'll probably start working on Mouser BOMs this weekend.
I just placed my order. I guess I'll finally stick my toe in the surface mount water.
Quote from: jubal81 on November 15, 2013, 03:01:45 PM
I'm in. Looking forward to the Fuzz. Great combo, small size. SMD make Lilly angry, but germanium trannies make Lilly smash.
I'll probably start working on Mouser BOMs this weekend.
The Mouser part numbers are all in the build guide, so it should go pretty fast.
I really think you guys are going to be pleasantly surprised at how non-scary SMD actually is.
Quote from: culturejam on November 15, 2013, 08:46:43 PM
I really think you guys are going to be pleasantly surprised at how non-scary SMD actually is.
Especially since we don't have to go lookin for the parts. Thanks for the spoon feed. I can't wait to give this a go. Have the orders been shipped yet??? Ha! Just kidding. I hope you guys do very well and I hope we were able to exceed your expectations today.
I just put together a Mouser BOM for the NoMoJo and with the part numbers from the doc, it does go pretty quick. I bumped all the resistors to Qty 10 since there was a big price break. Only wound up costing 10 more cents overall but gives me spares in case I drop some or whatever. The total BOM comes out to $11.84 which aint bad at all. Only need to source the pots from somewhere else, though I likely already have those values in my inventory.
Quote from: slacker775 on November 15, 2013, 09:09:10 PM
I just put together a Mouser BOM for the NoMoJo and with the part numbers from the doc, it does go pretty quick. I bumped all the resistors to Qty 10 since there was a big price break. Only wound up costing 10 more cents overall but gives me spares in case I drop some or whatever. The total BOM comes out to $11.84 which aint bad at all. Only need to source the pots from somewhere else, though I likely already have those values in my inventory.
Yeah, my best advice for building SMT: buy extra parts, especially in the beginning. You WILL fling a component when holding it with tweezers. I still do it now and again. I used to look for the parts, I don't bother for most resistors and caps anymore.
No shit guys, I actually lost some caps because I sneezed. So definitely order multiples of all the passive parts.
Ordered.
But. I wonder about this sentence:
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We will post a "Thank You" list on this page for all purchases and donations once the fundraiser has concluded.
You want to publish real names? Email addresses? Huh? Bad idea...
Put my order in too.
Good luck guys.
I'll try not to sneeze on my SMDs! ;D
Quote from: kothoma on November 16, 2013, 03:13:03 AM
But. I wonder about this sentence:
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We will post a "Thank You" list on this page for all purchases and donations once the fundraiser has concluded.
You want to publish real names? Email addresses? Huh? Bad idea...
I second this, don't want my name in an internet.
Other than that: all the best with the new company and thanks for all the projects!
The idea to put the names up was just a way of saying thank you to everybody that helped; we certainly don't want to put anybody off by it. I don't think leaving it off is an issue.
We could also just put the monikers people use on the forum.
I'll talk it over with the guys.
Stock options, will there be stock options? Is love for name to be there, it'd be an honor. I ain't skeered.
they know more about me than I do myself and what they don't know they can find out in a New York minute so I don't mind...
Quote from: muddyfox on November 16, 2013, 07:24:41 AM
they know more about me than I do myself and what they don't know they can find out in a New York minute so I don't mind...
rigjt, I hope they'll have more luck with my identity than I have! :-)
Quote from: pickdropper on November 16, 2013, 06:35:00 AM
We could also just put the monikers people use on the forum.
Yeah, we could do that. But I don't see the harm in first name/last name. Without some other piece of identifying information, there's not much value in just a name. No way would we publish email addresses. That's just stupid and also there's no point to it. Besides, the NSA already has all that.
But if a few folks are uncomfortable with it, we can just drop it. No biggie. We just wanted to give credit to our supporters on the company site. But we're happy to take all the credit ourselves. ;D
The idea was to be like some of the Kickstarter projects out there. For projects like funding a band's album or funding an indy movie, lots of those project will include the supporter's names on their site (or liner notes, or credits) as part of the "value" of contributing money.
Quote from: culturejam on November 16, 2013, 08:12:52 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on November 16, 2013, 06:35:00 AM
We could also just put the monikers people use on the forum.
Yeah, we could do that.
Hm. There is no connection between the forum moniker and the paypal order.
Perhaps you could ask every buyer what he prefers when you send the shipping notification?
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But I don't see the harm in first name/last name. Without some other piece of identifying information, there's not much value in just a name.
I disagree. The contradition is right there: if there's not much value then why use it?
And I can think of many good reasons for staying anonymous.
Dont wanna whine or anything, but fwiw:
I dont have any problems with my name (as in first/last) showing up in a "thanx to.." or "credit" list. Its just an honor.
Cheerio
Quote from: kothoma on November 16, 2013, 08:27:20 AM
I disagree. The contradition is right there: if there's not much value then why use it?
And I can think of many good reasons for staying anonymous.
I think his point was that there is no value in a name in terms of someone exploiting that information. The value to us is quite different. But, there is no reason to make anyone uncomfortable so I expect we'll figure out an alternate way of saying thanks.
I think a good compromise would be first name and last initial. What do you guys think?
Sounds good to me!
Screen name
Ordered. :)
Quote from: Vallhagen on November 16, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Dont wanna whine or anything, but fwiw:
I dont have any problems with my name (as in first/last) showing up in a "thanx to.." or "credit" list. Its just an honor.
Cheerio
Same here: Hi, my name is Paul van der Zijde, and I'm a pedal-build-aholic! ;)
Quote from: DutchMF on November 16, 2013, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Vallhagen on November 16, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Dont wanna whine or anything, but fwiw:
I dont have any problems with my name (as in first/last) showing up in a "thanx to.." or "credit" list. Its just an honor.
Cheerio
Same here: Hi, my name is Paul van der Zijde, and I'm a pedal-build-aholic! ;)
Oh....so you haven't started building amps and guitars yet? Get out while you still can!!!!
Quote from: rullywowr on November 16, 2013, 10:34:07 AM
I think a good compromise would be first name and last initial. What do you guys think?
That's me!
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Quote from: madbean on November 16, 2013, 10:05:28 AM
I think his point was that there is no value in a name in terms of someone exploiting that information.
That's exactly my point. There's no value to some Russian d-bag who steals identities.
But obviously some folks were rather stay anonymous. That's cool with me. Our intent was a good one, but clearly we didn't think of every viewpoint.
Looking forward to getting these although I'm wondering if I should just keep them unpopulated in the hope they reach klonlike value in years to come.
Quote from: gingataff on November 16, 2013, 07:20:47 PM
Looking forward to getting these although I'm wondering if I should just keep them unpopulated in the hope they reach klonlike value in years to come.
Right, should we create a wait list and claim to sell them but you'll have to wait two years, and post fake pictures of them in the wild. The company will make millions, THEN we get our stock options. It's the perfect plan. I think I'll buy a Lamborghini......
Quote from: gingataff on November 16, 2013, 07:20:47 PM
Looking forward to getting these although I'm wondering if I should just keep them unpopulated in the hope they reach klonlike value in years to come.
We can always use that as an excuse for the surface mount fuzz! ;) Seriously though, I'm pretty excited to give SMT a shot!
If someone orders a few multiples of the SMD stuff, I'd be willing to order two sets of what is required for the surface mount fuzz. (Mouser's website scares me for the passive stuff.)
Didn't Dave create a mouser bom? Oh wait I think it's in the build docs, seems like he was saying something like that earlier in this post maybe? I'm pretty stoked about it myself. I'm afraid it will be awesome and all my through hole stuff I have amassed will be worthless.
Quote from: jimilee on November 16, 2013, 08:12:17 PM
Didn't Dave create a mouser bom? Oh wait I think it's in the build docs, seems like he was saying something like that earlier in this post maybe? I'm pretty stoked about it myself. I'm afraid it will be awesome and all my through hole stuff I have amassed will be worthless.
The Mouser part numbers were in the doc, but I don't think there is a BOM. I went into Mouser last night and created a project for the SMD parts only - resistors, caps & trannies. It came to $8.83. I've never done this before, but I could probably figure out how to create and share a BOM. Like someone else already mentioned, Mouser's site intimidates the hell out of me.
I plan to place my order after I receive the board - I think I'll double the quantities to have some spares. I did notice that some of the resistors were out of stock.
Yeah, I put the Mouser part numbers in the build doc, but did not create an actual BOM at Mouser. One of the reason is that parts do go out of stock. Fortunately, most of the passives have many viable replacements.
I went through the parts on the BOM just now and noticed only two that are out of stock without alternates that come up as part of the part search. The values I saw were the 33k and 1k resistors. Here are some alternate parts:
660-RK73H1JTTD3302F
660-RK73H1JTTD1001F
If anything else goes out of stock, you can find alternate resistors using the following search criteria at Mouser:
Resistance Value -
Case Code - in - 0603
If you want, you can throw in Power Rating - 1/10W, but you probably don't need to.
Oh bollocks... I just read the builddoc and there are 0603 resistors there... And I thought I was safe ordering a 0805 resistor kit. ::)
I guess it's back to fleabay for some 0603s and 1206s.
Yeah, all of the resistors are 0603. Most of the caps are 0805, with the exception of the 47uF, which are 1206 because I wanted them to be 16V.
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
Resistance Value -
Case Code - in - 0603
Sorry if im a am goin a bit OT but im curious, and as you have experience with SM-stuff; 0603, is that the smallest you can go and still be "fairly comfortable" in soldering? Is 0402 possible to handle?
Cheers
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Yeah, all of the resistors are 0603. Most of the caps are 0805, with the exception of the 47uF, which are 1206 because I wanted them to be 16V.
A set of 1206 caps and a set of 0603 resistors ordered off evilbay. Should be enough for a few boards... ;D
Quote from: Vallhagen on November 17, 2013, 07:39:10 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:00:38 AM
Resistance Value -
Case Code - in - 0603
Sorry if im a am goin a bit OT but im curious, and as you have experience with SM-stuff; 0603, is that the smallest you can go and still be "fairly comfortable" in soldering? Is 0402 possible to handle?
Cheers
My preference is 0603 as I find them about as easy to hand-solder as 0805. I do hand-solder smaller components fairly regularly. Usually it's 0402, which aren't too bad, but I wouldn't recommend those as a starting point for the first time SMT build. I've done 0201 resistors as well, but those are really quite tiny and not as much fun. I haven't tried 1005, which are so small they are difficult to see. We have some at work, so maybe I'll try them one of these days just for the challenge.
Quote from: muddyfox on November 17, 2013, 07:40:37 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:25:37 AM
Yeah, all of the resistors are 0603. Most of the caps are 0805, with the exception of the 47uF, which are 1206 because I wanted them to be 16V.
A set of 1206 caps and a set of 0603 resistors ordered off evilbay. Should be enough for a few boards... ;D
I would check to make sure the 1206 cap kit actually includes the 47uF cap. That's a fairly large (and less common) value, so I kind of doubt it's in the kit.
The 0603 resistor kit should be perfect.
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:52:07 AM
I've done 0201 resistors as well
You must be a machine, I just looked up the dimensions on those, they're .6 x .3
mm!!!! I could inhale those and not notice.....
Paul
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:52:07 AM
Usually it's 0402, which aren't too bad, ...
Thanx. That was actually the answer i was lookin for (as in "you can do it by hand, you dont necessarily need a robot").
Cheers!
Quote from: DutchMF on November 17, 2013, 07:58:17 AM
You must be a machine, I just looked up the dimensions on those, they're .6 x .3 mm!!!! I could inhale those and not notice.....
Well, he IS a pickdropper, after all... ;)
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:53:20 AM
I would check to make sure the 1206 cap kit actually includes the 47uF cap. That's a fairly large (and less common) value, so I kind of doubt it's in the kit.
Good call, it only goes up to 1uF. Should come in handy anyways, no harm done.
Also, a question... I cannot seem to source 25k 3362P trims for a reasonable price. Can I substitute 20k or 50k?
Is that a bias trimmer? You can usually be safe with a larger value, just makes it a bit harder to dial in the sweet spot.
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Alright...
These 1206 47uFs are impossible to source over here. Mouser's shipping is ridiculous.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5mo-TjkFt7M/UojxgJiD8mI/AAAAAAAABEw/gmFEmSxmOYo/w904-h235-no/mouser.jpg)
Anyone willing to grab me a dozen and stuff it in an envelope? I'll pay any reasonable amount to cover the parts and shipping and a beer or three.
Quote from: ch1naski on November 17, 2013, 08:40:32 AM
Is that a bias trimmer? You can usually be safe with a larger value, just makes it a bit harder to dial in the sweet spot.
Yes, that's the bias trimmer in Fuzzface part... I don't know what I'm looking for turning that trimmer anyways and my ear isn't always the best tool (contrary to what I'm often told). :-[
In a fuzz face, 4.5v is pretty standard for bias voltage.
I'm late getting in on this pcb set, since getting laid-off for a second time this year....and all my resources are going into starting my own business (e-cig shop). But the excitement of this thread is going to make me pull the trigger on it, even if I won't be able to build them this year.
:)
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Quote from: muddyfox on November 17, 2013, 08:45:07 AM
Alright...
These 1206 47uFs are impossible to source over here. Mouser's shipping is ridiculous.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5mo-TjkFt7M/UojxgJiD8mI/AAAAAAAABEw/gmFEmSxmOYo/w904-h235-no/mouser.jpg)
Anyone willing to grab me a dozen and stuff it in an envelope? I'll pay any reasonable amount to cover the parts and shipping and a beer or three.
Are you in the UK? I just checked and Farnell has them, although they seem to be US stock.
Since these are hand soldered, it should be OK to to substitute 1210s if you want. They are a bit wider than the 1206's, but it should be OK. I can check the alignment tomorrow at work with some 1210s. Farnell has plenty of different 47uF 1210 caps in their UK stock.
Quote from: DutchMF on November 17, 2013, 07:58:17 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 07:52:07 AM
I've done 0201 resistors as well
You must be a machine, I just looked up the dimensions on those, they're .6 x .3 mm!!!! I could inhale those and not notice.....
Paul
Don't be too impressed. I don't claim tremendous proficiency, just that I have done it in the past when I had to. I remember it being quite tricky. I wouldn't put them on a PCB that I was hand-soldering. Frankly, I don't put then on a PCB unless absolutely necessary; not all pick and place machines can handle them.
Quote from: pickdropper on November 17, 2013, 08:53:58 AM
Are you in the UK? I just checked and Farnell has them, although they seem to be US stock.
Since these are hand soldered, it should be OK to to substitute 1210s if you want. They are a bit wider than the 1206's, but it should be OK. I can check the alignment tomorrow at work with some 1210s. Farnell has plenty of different 47uF 1210 caps in their UK stock.
I'm in Croatia so Farnell is also on the expensive end, shipping-wise.
They also don't seem to have anything over 10V, not that it matters:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Hw9JiRX02k8/UokBSOnJIzI/AAAAAAAABFk/AJh-LV3Q_Ac/w775-h171-no/farnell.jpg)
I did find this though, so if it fits it'd do I suppose:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TrhTqrp2qUU/UokB5KwCZ4I/AAAAAAAABF4/qxTvDjroL80/w522-h440-no/ebay.jpg)
Yeah, that should fit, but I'll verify tomorrow.
We'll find a way to get your parts sorted out. One way or another.
Maybe I can be of assistance? I'll have to get me some parts as well, and can easily add some more, stick em in an envelope and mail them to Croatia (lovely country BTW, had very nice holiday there 2 years ago!). Shouldn't cost more then a euro or two because the stuff weighs next to nothing. Are you in a real big hurry?
Paul
That'd be great, Paul! If it's not too much trouble... no rush, of course.
If you are set up to receive paypal monies, just charge a few De Molen Hels on me (tried some this spring in Amsterdam, that was damn fine!)...
Quote from: muddyfox on November 17, 2013, 10:43:10 AM
That'd be great, Paul! If it's not too much trouble... no rush, of course.
If you are set up to receive paypal monies, just charge a few De Molen Hels on me (tried some this spring in Amsterdam, that was damn fine!)...
No problem at all, just glad I can help. I'll contact Rockhorst (He's Dutch as well), maybe we can do something for the three of us. If other Euros want to join the SMT/SMD parts buy, we might want to set up a group buy. I'll give it some thought and get back to you this coming week. Still scares the crap out of me, resistors small enough to snort..... Or is that me being Dutch? ;)
Paul
Quote from: DutchMF on November 17, 2013, 12:04:54 PM
resistors small enough to snort..... Or is that me being Dutch? ;)
Guess thats ok as long as theyre leadfree;)
***
I could join in some european smd group buy as well. Mouser offer free shipping if order exceeds 70 EURO (or there about), right?
Cheers
Quote from: DutchMF on November 17, 2013, 12:04:54 PM
Quote from: muddyfox on November 17, 2013, 10:43:10 AM
That'd be great, Paul! If it's not too much trouble... no rush, of course.
If you are set up to receive paypal monies, just charge a few De Molen Hels on me (tried some this spring in Amsterdam, that was damn fine!)...
No problem at all, just glad I can help. I'll contact Rockhorst (He's Dutch as well), maybe we can do something for the three of us. If other Euros want to join the SMT/SMD parts buy, we might want to set up a group buy. I'll give it some thought and get back to you this coming week. Still scares the crap out of me, resistors small enough to snort..... Or is that me being Dutch? ;)
Paul
Paul, this is a good idea. The pricing for these caps generally comes way down with quantity, so a group buy could save everybody some money, even with a bit of postage in there.
Quote from: Vallhagen on November 17, 2013, 12:20:37 PM
Quote from: DutchMF on November 17, 2013, 12:04:54 PM
resistors small enough to snort..... Or is that me being Dutch? ;)
Guess thats ok as long as theyre leadfree;)
***
I could join in some european smd group buy as well. Mouser offer free shipping if order exceeds 70 EURO (or there about), right?
Cheers
LOL! Yeah, I guess so. I'll get this organized this week, as I guess a lot of euro's are struggling to get the right parts without paying some enormous shipping costs. Right now, I see two possibilities, Mouser and Farnell. I'll check at work tomorrow, we have a department that regularly orders at Farnell, I might be able to sneak this in there and skip shipping all together. Now why the hell didn't I think of that before! *smashes head on table*
Paul
Quote from: DutchMF on November 17, 2013, 12:04:54 PM
Or is that me being Dutch? ;)
Well an old friend (I don't think I've seen him in the last 15 years, maybe even 20) once told me that "you ain't much if you ain't Dutch".
I guess the shoe fits with you.. ;D
Thanks for the offer, let me know what I need to do. I'll be building all three boards, I think I have most parts but if there's a group buy for parts other than the caps I'd still be in.
Didn't think it was going to be that difficult to get these parts on this side of the pond! I've looked at all my usual UK and EU sources and no luck :(
A group buy would be good.
^^^ I'm really surprised by that. I know European companies use surface-mount parts. Somebody over there has to be supplying them.
I'm surprised as well. It's not like the parts are all that obscure. I would be every part on that BOM is produced in larger quantities than most through-hole parts.
OK guys, I recorded a quick and dirty sound clip today. Surprisingly, it picked up a bit of my strumming of the strings, even with the amp on. I guess I stood too close to the mic. Anyway, it should still give you an idea of what it sounds like.
https://soundcloud.com/pickdropper/facebender-demo
I may do a better take when I get a chance.
Quote from: culturejam on November 17, 2013, 03:28:38 PM
^^^ I'm really surprised by that. I know European companies use surface-mount parts. Somebody over there has to be supplying them.
I'm sure there is but noone that I've found that caters to the <10000pcs crowd and doesn't pull a daylight robbery on me unless I live in the UK.
I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong here... ;D
Seriously guys if you don't have any SMD parts, you can get a starter kit for around $10 on ebay. They are all over the site. The same goes for larger cap sizes...you can get 50 or 100 pcs for about what mouser charges for 10pcs. Then you can build up your smd collection for future builds! Link to just one 0805 resistor/capacitor kit: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2300pcs-SMD-0805-0-10M-50value-Resistor-2-2pf-1uf-40value-Capacitor-Kit-Set-/110941312626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d49e1672 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2300pcs-SMD-0805-0-10M-50value-Resistor-2-2pf-1uf-40value-Capacitor-Kit-Set-/110941312626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d49e1672)
Most importantly you want to get some tweezers (I prefer curved), some flux, some desoldering braid (#2 is good). The coolest part about smd to me is using liquid solder paste and a reflow skillet (just get a hot plate skillet). Check out Sparkfun's reflow skillet tutorial. Basically you put paste on all the pads, put your parts on with tweezers, and bake for about 4minutes on the skillet. Done!
LINK to reflow skillet:
https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/59 (https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/59)
Rully, I got my kits off ebay. 0805 resistors, 0603 resistors, 0805 caps, other smd bits and pieces as well.
The kit on your link doesn't state the resistor tolerance, there are 5% and 1% available so one needs to pay attention (been known to buy a few duds myself when I got careless ::) ). I'm pretty well set for quite a few projects now. But there are a few parts that no kit contains and those aren't readily available, even on ebay. Hence all the commotion.
That skillet looks fun but I need this to take time so that I can unwind. That's my main purpose for doing this dance in the first place... ;D
@DutchMF: I'm probably in, maybe we should check if Conrad stocks it?
Well, I'm from NZ, not Europe, but if anyone's doing a group order for parts for SMD fuzz for F(x), I'd like to be in :)
These 0805 caps are ceramic?
The ones in the kit? Yeah...
I think I have this one or the same one from a different seller
http://www.ebay.com/itm/57-Value-0805-SMD-Ceramic-capacitor-MLCC-SMT-KIT-1140PCS-/260854044143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbc1cd5ef
Here are some links to Conrad SMD parts. They have everything except the 1206 47uF capacitors:
Multilayer capacitors: http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/overview/0206860/SMD-Multilayer-Capacitors?filterType=0805&filterContent~~pc(s)=1
Ceramic capacitors: http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/overview/0206810/SMD-Ceramic-Capacitors?filterType=0805&sort=Title-asc
Transistors: http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/overview/5104045/Transistors?filterCasing=SOT+23&sort=Title-asc&page=3
Thick film resistors: http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/overview/0241250/SMD-Thick-Film-Resistors?filterBrand=Vishay&sort=Price-asc
Bourns trimmers: http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/Search.html?search=bourns+3362&sort=Price-asc&page=2
Standard delivery to the UK from £6.99 delivered in 2 to 3 working days
I'm new to SMT so trying to find this stuff and deciphering the different package types was a bit of a learning experience!
I haven't used Conrad yet but I like the fact I can order SMD parts in small quantities as opposed to in the hundreds or thousands.
I hope these links are of use to everyone who, like myself, are taking their first steps in SMT :)
Quote from: twin1965 on November 25, 2013, 10:33:08 AM
They have everything except the 1206 47uF capacitors:
You mean they have everything except the only part that I need? LOL
Seriously though, good call. Conrad was always the last place I looked, they used to have a pretty high minimum order for my country and high shipping costs so I never really considered them an option.
From what I can tell, this has changed somewhat so I may actually give them some of my business sometime...
Well, all of the International orders will include the 47uF 1206 caps, so you should be good to go then.
Yeah, thanks again for that, Pick!
Good thing too, because I simply can't find them for anything resembling reasonable cost.
Quote from: muddyfox on November 25, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
Yeah, thanks again for that, Pick!
Good thing too, because I simply can't find them for anything resembling reasonable cost.
Yeah, I am still a bit surprised they are that difficult to find, but we really want people to build these boards. We don't want finding those caps to prevent that from happening. The rest of the parts should be really easy to source, either individually or with fairly inexpensive parts kits on eBay.
Just bought my pcb packet and made a donation in the name of the lucky number.
I've also shared the sale on my facebook page, i get around 900 views per posts, hope it helps.
All the best to you my friends! :)
Rej
My little packet showed up today! Thanks and good luck with the new company.
I got mine today as well. They look incredible. I have to get parts now!
Just curious, who or what is Skunkworks FX. I googled, but didn't find anything?
Chad
Skunkworks is top secret. :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunkworks_project
I need to hit up Mouser for enclosures for an infinitphase and Schumann anyway :/
I'll grab the smd stuff from 'em while I'm at it. It'll make Mouser's RKITB shipping charge less painful. Somewhat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Skunk_works_Logo.svg/220px-Skunk_works_Logo.svg.png)
Quote from: pickdropper on November 25, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
Skunkworks is top secret. :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunkworks_project
Pretty nice name! I think it's ideal for you three! :)
Hector
I got my packet, and I'm wondering, is there a good way to put the NoMojo on a switch so that I get, TB, FFF, or (wait for it) FF in to TB?
There are separate ins and outs for the FF and TB sides so it's really a two-in-one. You could easily put them each on separate switches or use a toggle to switch which effect is active.
Phew! Just got paid today, so have at last done the 33USD thing.
Wishing you all the best, f(fx)!
Quote from: slacker775 on November 28, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
There are separate ins and outs for the FF and TB sides so it's really a two-in-one. You could easily put them each on separate switches or use a toggle to switch which effect is active.
You can also use a 3PDT or 4PDT toggle to change the order in which they go - FF-TB or TB-FF. Search for order switching on the forum and I'm pretty sure there is a wiring diagram.
Here's one I used with good results.....
Paul
One more day for the Fundraiser. We have raised 90% of our goal thus far! W00t!
Quote from: madbean on November 30, 2013, 09:08:37 AM
One more day for the Fundraiser. We have raised 90% of our goal thus far! W00t!
So happy for you guys. Plus it means more mind blowing great toan projects will drop soon for all of us!
I am glad I made the deadline. I really wanted to help but had no money, finally socked away some for the packet. Thanks again guys and I hope you achieve your goal with Function F(x).
Over at byoc, there is a group but de the smt parts going on if no one has mentioned it already.
link, please?
i'm having a hard time navigating nyoc board on my phone...
Its in this thread, there isn't a separate thread for it unfortunately. Look in the last 2 pages, there is a google docs sign up.
http://byocelectronics.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=46874
I just signed up to byoc to do this. Mouser shipping, bah!
I mousered my smt bits but am short a few resistors. I've ordered an eBay resistor kit which ought to get me to completion. I'm excited to try it out. So far, smt hasn't been quite as bad as I thought. I think I have the components soldered decently. Definitely wouldn't recommend it for a first build though.
Chinese ebay sellers sell most of the parts in kits, but some are more difficult to find though, like the 22uf and 47uf caps (at least that's what I found)
Big kudos to fn f(x) though for including the 47uf caps for us non-US types - thanks guys :)
My only foray into SMD was a board I designed, a SMD big muff with through-hole electro, diodes, and transistors. It was pretty much a failure, since everything was crammed too tightly (including via's about a mil away from smd pads.)
So I am actually looking forward to working on one of PD's boards. I've been using my crap smd muff boards as practice mules for technique :)
Quote from: alanp on November 30, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
My only foray into SMD was a board I designed, a SMD big muff with through-hole electro, diodes, and transistors. It was pretty much a failure, since everything was crammed too tightly (including via's about a mil away from smd pads.)
So I am actually looking forward to working on one of PD's boards. I've been using my crap smd muff boards as practice mules for technique :)
Using bad boards to practice is a fantastic idea.
Another good source of practice boards is an old, dead video card (or other computer peripheral). Those make great sacrificial lambs.
Pickdropper has a great idea about practicing on dead electronic smd PCBs. You can use a heat gun (in a well ventilated area) on old boards to get the smd components off and then practice putting some back on. As long as you have flux, tweezers, and a decent iron you are ready to give it a shot.
Quote from: rullywowr on November 30, 2013, 06:30:12 PM
Pickdropper has a great idea about practicing on dead electronic smd PCBs. You can use a heat gun (in a well ventilated area) on old boards to get the smd components off and then practice putting some back on. As long as you have flux, tweezers, and a decent iron you are ready to give it a shot.
just from looking at how small the board is, I may have to get a second set of glasses to wear with the first pair! Yaaay old eyes.
Quote from: jimilee on November 30, 2013, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: rullywowr on November 30, 2013, 06:30:12 PM
Pickdropper has a great idea about practicing on dead electronic smd PCBs. You can use a heat gun (in a well ventilated area) on old boards to get the smd components off and then practice putting some back on. As long as you have flux, tweezers, and a decent iron you are ready to give it a shot.
just from looking at how small the board is, I may have to get a second set of glasses to wear with the first pair! Yaaay old eyes.
Jimi (and everybody else),
These are actually pretty helpful and they are cheap:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61%2BTW1eMqOL._SL1500_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Jewelers-Lighted-Magnifier-Visor/dp/B005VIG6TA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385867709&sr=8-1&keywords=magnified+glasses
I use them for surface mount parts when I don't feel like taking out the microscope.
Can you enlarge the picture, its all blurry....
jk! :P
Awesome,just bought some, free shipping too! Thank you.
Quote from: rullywowr on November 30, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
Can you enlarge the picture, its all blurry....
jk! :P
plbbbbbbb
Quote from: rullywowr on November 30, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
Can you enlarge the picture, its all blurry....
jk! :P
Well, that is the largest one on Amazon, but if you want, I can blow it up in Photoshop. ;D
Alright. Got paid and just purchased my 3 boards. Looking forward (kind of) to learning more about smd.
Quote from: madbean on November 30, 2013, 09:08:37 AM
One more day for the Fundraiser. We have raised 90% of our goal thus far! W00t!
OK, just ordered a second packet. :)
Good luck!
Got my boards a few days back! Thanks and good luck with the company!
Quote from: pickdropper on November 25, 2013, 10:45:10 AM
Well, all of the International orders will include the 47uF 1206 caps, so you should be good to go then.
It's awesome that you attached these capacitors! They're the only part I couldn't get. I already wondered were these parts came from (I didn't pay attention when I emptied the bag). Btw., a good source of parts in central Europe is RS components (http://www.rs-components.com/index.html), except for Footswitches and special parts like the Pt2399. Also, I get discounts over work :)
I got one question concerning the Nomojo Fuzz, though. Some of you were discussing getting the signal from the Fuzzface into the Tonebender or vice versa. I guess that's just a bonus feature since it is supposed to be 2 separate effects, right?
This would be my switching for the NoMoJo Fuzz. That should work?!
(http://felix.kalium.org/upload/share/NoMojo-switching.png)
I wouldn't go with that switching. I'd go with two 3PDT's, each wired according to the MBP wiring diagram, like so --
Input jack goes to input of first stomp
(FX in and out goes to first effect)
Output of first stomp goes to input of second stomp
(FX in and out goes to second effect)
Output of second stomp goes to output jack.
You could get fancier with an effect order changing switch.
Since I stuffed mine in a 1590a, I did a similar switch, except that I used a DPDT and didn't worry about putting about adding more LEDs. I can tell which one is on based on the position of the switch.
If I did use a 3PDT, I'd probably use a bi-color LED.
Quote from: alanp on December 15, 2013, 07:44:10 PM
I wouldn't go with that switching. I'd go with two 3PDT's, each wired according to the MBP wiring diagram, like so --
Why shouldn't it work? I cannot find any mistakes...
Because either way, you're still going to use two stomp switches, but with one way you can have both on at once, with the other way you cannot.
My idea was to use them separately, not in series. That should work with my setup.
The only problem I see is to fit all that stuff in the 1590A!
Quote from: m-Kresol on December 16, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
My idea was to use them separately, not in series. That should work with my setup.
The only problem I see is to fit all that stuff in the 1590A!
I've stuffed two circuits in a 1590a before. It can be done but it's a bit of a hassle. I used a 3PDT toggle for the bypass switch on one of them. Two stomps won't fit.
So, if I want to populate both sides and have a switching similar to the one I posted above (bypass stomp with indicator plus effect selecting), how would you do that? A 3PDT and a 2PDT stomp or switch (leaving the LED part off)?
The one you posted above will only allow one circuit one active at a given time. Is that what you are looking for? If so , you could use a DPDT as a selector switch ( 3PDT if you want to use separate LEDs).
If you want both circuits to be individually bypassed/enabled , you'll need two separate 3PDT switches and you would use the standard madbean wiring for a true bypass effect . You would just take the jack output of the first effect to the jack input of the second.
Quote from: pickdropper on December 16, 2013, 09:31:46 AM
The one you posted above will only allow one circuit one active at a given time. Is that what you are looking for? If so , you could use a DPDT as a selector switch ( 3PDT if you want to use separate LEDs).
Yes, that's what I've been trying to do. Isn't that the intention of the build? That you have 2 independent Fuzz-Effects in one pedal?
I guess both ways will lead to the same end. Except that I could enable both effects at the same time with your second option. But is there a point even doing so? wouldn't there be just a shitload of distortion, which makes your original tone unrecognizable? Also, if you say that two 3PDT stomps won't fit in an 1590A, that's not really an option if you indeed want to build it in that casing.
EDIT: I just had a look at the 1590A casing again (it's my first time with that one) and I have to admit, that my switching would never fit. I even doubt, that I could fit one stomp a regular switch and 4 potentiometers... Guess, I'll get a 1590B or something similar.
All solid points. I used a DPDT to switch the inputs and outputs and then used the standard wrong diagram ( similar to what you drew, but no individual LED). It was tight, but it did fit in a 1590a.
I didn't do two separate 3PDT stomps because I wanted to fit it in a 1590a, but I suspect many people will build it that way so that they can choose either one while playing without having to lean over and flip the toggle switch.
There's no wrong way, just different preferences.
Thanks for your fast replies. After looking at the casing i just have to ask how on earth you managed to put 4 potentiometers in that casing? Did you put some on the side walls or are all of them on top? I'd really like to see your final stompbox, if you find time for it.
I've actually posted it already in the build reports section. You can find it under the title "FaceBender."
I'm on my phone now, but let me know if you can't find a link and I'll add it to the thread later.
Sorry for the dredge, but there's a certain black humour in the NoMoJo for me.
It might claim to be mojo-free, but I still wind up ordering from suppliers I normally don't touch for this "no mojo", and still get stung for shipping ;) :) :P (Mouser for the smd parts; I had to order some other stuff, so grabbed 'em while I was at it. I think Mouser automatically adds on the $39 shipping when they see "Alan" anywhere in the order, even if I just have small parts.)
Quote from: alanp on January 29, 2014, 12:00:43 AM
Sorry for the dredge, but there's a certain black humour in the NoMoJo for me.
It might claim to be mojo-free, but I still wind up ordering from suppliers I normally don't touch for this "no mojo", and still get stung for shipping ;) :) :P (Mouser for the smd parts; I had to order some other stuff, so grabbed 'em while I was at it. I think Mouser automatically adds on the $39 shipping when they see "Alan" anywhere in the order, even if I just have small parts.)
Did you miss the group buy for the SMD stuff?
Like I said, I needed to get other stuff while I was at it, so I didn't want to bother them.
But my point still stands; "group buy" for plain, no mojo stuff? ;) ;)
Is there any news on the Function Fx launch? :-\
Since there are only 4 more days in the First Quarter of 2014, and there is no feedback system on the site, I figured I would ask here.
Updates??
Unfortunately, we are definitely not going to make it out in the first quarter. The good news is that we are making progress. Towards the end of the 2nd quarter or early 3rd is more likely.
Got a nice «Thank You» card from Brian thursday with some Cryo picks in it.
Thanks a bunch!
Can't wait for the launch of this line of product, i want signed pedals! ;D
Here's a teaser shot of the overdrive we're working on. I haven't had a chance to goop the outside yet. ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/Function%20fx%20teasers/Teaser2_zps165c695e.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/pickdropper/media/Function%20fx%20teasers/Teaser2_zps165c695e.jpg.html)
^ = ♥
Successfully teas'd ;D
Quote from: pickdropper on April 05, 2014, 07:08:03 AM
Here's a teaser shot of the overdrive we're working on. I haven't had a chance to goop the outside yet. ;D
Oh no! It has a tone control!
......... Sorry ::)
Quote from: pickdropper on April 05, 2014, 07:08:03 AM
Here's a teaser shot of the overdrive we're working on. I haven't had a chance to goop the outside yet. ;D
Rowr! I don't even care what it sounds like. I want it 8)
We've been pretty quiet but also very busy. Some products got shelved, and new ones have taken their place. We're really very close to the manufacturing stage now.
Are you guys going to sell competed pedals or kits? Or something else?
No kit plans for now. This is an actual booteek pedal company.
We are *discussing* the possibility of offering PCBs for some of the designs we come up with that end up not being appropriate for the business. For example, we may develop a cool circuit that sounds great, but it's not practical to produce on a commercial scale (for any of a variety of reasons). So it would be a shame to just let that circuit lay fallow.
It's not a definite yet, but it may happen.
I'm really excited about this guys. I just took a look at "function f(x)" twitter account and that enclosure is gorgeous.
We gettin there...
Bean, is that really the box for the fuzz, or is the proto just in Pickdropper's leftover Companion enclosure? Because that knob is mighty close to being stompable.
Those knobs are bigger than the production version will have. I'll post another picture later
It's also a different design than the Companion Fuzz box I did. Actually, don't you have the extra enclosure from that?
Quote from: pickdropper on April 09, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
Actually, don't you have the extra enclosure from that?
I somehow got the impression there was a third floating around ...
Quote from: midwayfair on April 09, 2014, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on April 09, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
Actually, don't you have the extra enclosure from that?
I somehow got the impression there was a third floating around ...
Ah, I have an early goof-up here, but that is most likely going to have the top sanded and it will be a clean slate. The box you have was the alternate finished one.
That reminds me that I was going to make a board for that. I just didn't get around to it.
Pre-drilled.
That is so damn sexy. Looks great!
Cody
Quote from: midwayfair on April 09, 2014, 11:43:15 AM
Bean, is that really the box for the fuzz, or is the proto just in Pickdropper's leftover Companion enclosure? Because that knob is mighty close to being stompable.
Yeah that's just for my personal build. Those chicken heads won't work without some adjustments as pickdopper said...they actually run into one another. I don't care though...it looks cool!
I got my picks last week and finally got to use one on Sunday.
Nice picks.
Jacob
Here is what your contributions helped make happen. Thank you thank you thank you. This is pretty huge.
Sharks with freakin' laser beams.
Quote from: madbean on July 11, 2014, 08:42:40 PM
Here is what your contributions helped make happen. Thank you thank you thank you. This is pretty huge.
NICE!!!!
Well we're movin on up...to the East Side.
To that deluxe apartment in the sky :)
Quote from: aballen on July 12, 2014, 09:16:29 AM
To that deluxe apartment in the sky :)
I think you mean "that deeee-luxe apartment in the sky-y-y" ;D
Seriously though, laser machines are awesome.
Oh Wow! Congrats guys! 8)
Hell yeah! I have some experience with those epilog lasers from a previous job. I'm happy for you guys.
If it isn't being cheeky, could you post a picture of the laser machine working on an enclosure?
Quote from: alanp on July 12, 2014, 08:39:37 PM
If it isn't being cheeky, could you post a picture of the laser machine working on an enclosure?
Love to see that as well.
Cody
I don't think that will be a problem once it's setup and running.
Dave will soon become an absentee father whilst he plays laser tag over at our other partner's house.
Quote from: madbean on July 13, 2014, 08:49:16 AM
Dave will soon become an absentee father whilst he plays laser tag over at our other partner's house.
Yeah, I'm going to have to be careful with that.......
E P I C ! ! !
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Quote from: chordball on July 12, 2014, 08:28:50 PM
Hell yeah! I have some experience with those epilog lasers from a previous job. I'm happy for you guys.
Yeah, the Epilog's aren't the cheapest out there, but they are made to run production, which is what we need.
We have an epilog 30w at work and it's the shiznit.
Now you guys need a Squink (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/botfactory/squink-the-personal-electronic-circuit-factory). $2,500 on Kickstarter
I love technology. Mad props to pickdropper for making this a thing.
Quote from: madbean on August 07, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
I love technology. Mad props to pickdropper for making this a thing.
That is so freakin awesome.
Cody
Quote from: madbean on August 07, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
I love technology. Mad props to pickdropper for making this a thing.
Nice jig there...
Quote from: rullywowr on August 07, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 07, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
I love technology. Mad props to pickdropper for making this a thing.
Nice jig there...
The cutting fixtures are the only things that really make it feasible to do them in batches. Otherwise, alignment would be fairly miserable.
Thanks to everybody that helped us get to this point. It feels like it has taken forever, but we are making progress.
AWESOME!
Clusterfuzz, eh.
Volume, Fuzz, Tone, Filter, a rotary switch and something and something.
Come on! Please.
I want one!
Where can I order? ;D
You guys are gettin'...
;D ;D
Quote from: Rockhorst on August 08, 2014, 02:56:57 AM
Where can I order? ;D
We are in the process of setting up dealers. As soon as we know where, we'll let everybody know.
We aren't planning on doing direct sales at this point. We believe that dealers add value for both the end user and the manufacturer and having dealers in the loop should allow us to focus more of our efforts on product development.
Quote from: madbean on August 07, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
I love technology. Mad props to pickdropper for making this a thing.
WOW
will there be a dealer in europe? or at least a us based one with reasonable shipping cost
Quote from: muddyfox on August 08, 2014, 07:56:53 AM
will there be a dealer in europe? or at least a us based one with reasonable shipping cost
We've discussed it briefly, and it's something we plan on doing for sure. But it will likely be several months after our US launch (for a variety of reasons).
We would appreciate it if any of you twitter users would follow us: @function-fx
We'll be posting pics of prototypes, the laser machine in action, updates on products, promotional giveaways (when they happen), etc.
Quote from: culturejam on August 08, 2014, 08:01:47 AM
We'll be posting pics of prototypes, the laser machine in action, updates on products, promotional giveaways (when they happen), etc.
HECK YEAH!!! ;D
Quote from: muddyfox on August 08, 2014, 07:56:53 AM
will there be a dealer in europe? or at least a us based one with reasonable shipping cost
I hope so. It really falls on what the requirements are for the dealer to import it. If they insist on CE marking, it's not likely to happen as there is no way we can afford that. We are going to get them FCC tested for the US, but CE is MUCH more expensive. We'd have to grow quite a bit for that to be even close to justified.
That said, most small manufacturers don't test at all (or even use RoHS solder) and they still seem to end up being sold overseas. We are just going to have to see how it unfolds.
got this one from your Twitter feed. Looks amazing, can't wait to hear what it sounds like!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuhxtfMIgAAbhM1.jpg:large)
I'm expecting my wallet to get a little lighter haha...
Those aesthetics are going to kill. Love it.
I think I spy a momentary switch on the OD. Niiice.
Quote from: jubal81 on August 08, 2014, 10:39:21 AM
Those aesthetics are going to kill. Love it.
I think I spy a momentary switch on the OD. Niiice.
Yeah, no 3PDTs. All relay switching.
It won't be massively obvious with our early releases, but one of the unknown FFX guys knows quite a bit about microcontrollers. In a previous life, he used to design PIC chip architecture for one of the major manufacturers. He spent a lot of time writing code for them as well. He's also the person I've learned the most about board layouts from. Sharp dude.
You really have something going there!
If you are looking for distributors in Europe you want to get in contact with Cotton Music Supply in Germany. They carry a lot of small labels and are connected into every local shop across Germany.
CMS are well connected, but they are quite expensive, too.
Then you have http://www.effekt-boutique.de/ (http://www.effekt-boutique.de/), a big online dealer, but expensive, too.
They all are very expensive compared to your US prices.
There used to be http://crushthebutton.com/ (http://crushthebutton.com/) in Belgium, but they seemd to have moved to Poland now, don't know what's the deal with that.
There is a little shop, http://www.realguitars.de (http://www.realguitars.de), that is the distributor for Barber pedals. You can get Barber pedals from them or from any shop that inquires about them. They are not that well known, but they know what they are doing, and try to make fair prices, at least with the pedals. Amps, I don't know.
Maybe some other Europeans can chime in?!
Quote from: Tremster on August 11, 2014, 12:27:45 AM
CMS are well connected, but they are quite expensive, too.
Is this a customer-view statement?
FFX will need a distributor with wide reach and low passthrough cost. Price of the product should be stable.
Quote from: Thomas_H on August 11, 2014, 05:11:28 AM
Is this a customer-view statement?
Well, I just see the huge difference in US and German prices of ZVex or Voodoo Lab or Fulltone.....
The first batch of Clusterfuzz pedals are being built. pickdropper has put in a tremendous effort in making this first batch roll out. We are getting our dealers lined up and getting the pedals in the hands of the right people to start building up some buzz. And, hey: we are only one year behind schedule! But, that's what it took to get here, so there it is. We've been through so much product development it is hard to believe we are finally almost ready.
Here is a custom jig Dave and Jerry made for lasering the sides on the enclosures. Pretty awesome, huh?
That's so cool. I'm eager to see what comes out of this.
It's a pity you won't have dealers in Europe yet... Christmas is soooo close...
Brilliant looking rig guys. Can't wait to see the finish products on a shelf. Maybe one day I will be able to buy one with my Sweetwater card.
Cody
That wasn't the first rig we built. :-)
The first one was acrylic. It works, but there is always concern about scratching the cases when loading and unloading them from the fixture.
For each "deck" on this one, it has acrylic and poron foam. The hole in the acrylic is cut oversized so that it provides rigidity to the fixture but never touches the box. The poron is cut slightly undersized so that it holds the box in place. Not too complicated, but took a little bit to hash out. We have a simpler fixture for etching the tops of the boxes.
Later on, I'll take a photo of the board assembly fixture and post it.
Ooh I want a clusterfuzz
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Ohhhh yeah!
Although technically not part of each other really..... would have made a GREAT contest prize! 8)
That could happen for another contest, I think. I don't see any of the other guys objecting but we'll see. Thanks for the suggestion, Greg!
Quote from: madbean on November 07, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
That could happen for another contest, I think. I don't see any of the other guys objecting but we'll see. Thanks for the suggestion, Greg!
I think it deserves serious consideration for the CURRENT contest. ;D 8)
Especially since I am entered in it. HINT... HINT...
I think the prizes are all set for the current contest. As Brian said, we'll talk about doing something in the future.
The Function F(X) website is finally taking shape. Lots missing on it but we will flesh it out over the coming weeks.
http://www.function-fx.com/
Wicked wicked wicked! Looking sharp already! Wishing you guys best of luck and all the success deserved! :)
Edit: really like the crop circle look on clusterfuzz (great name too...!). Certainly some great pickdropper style there.
That level of pro will make a splash for sure. Looking forward to seeing more offerings over time and what dealers will pump it out for you.
Must.... have....
Nice website, looks pro. Just a quick heads up about a typo on the about page:
"After that year, we a limited lifetime warranty goes into effect. "
Thanks, I will fix the typo.
Quote from: madbean on November 19, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
Thanks, I will fix the typo.
im already telling my friends to buy you pedals, but the people where i am, dont like fuzz, so the expect some other pedals i have seen maybe an overdrive right??, its there any other near to show off pedals??
We have three overdrives in the the works right now...all very different from one another. All three are actually pretty close to being "locked in" on the design. What happens next largely depends on how well this first batch of fuzzes does so we are trying to get those out the door as soon as we can.
Thanks for the encouragement, everyone!
Wowser. Site's looking great! 8)
I like the ad copy on the Clusterfuzz, too.
... actually, can we have a gutshot of the Clusterfuzz or is it all gooped up...?!? Just kiddin... ;)
Quote from: jubal81 on November 19, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
I like the ad copy on the Clusterfuzz, too.
Thanks. My comment to the other guys was something like "I just wrote what did not offend me" (I hate marketing speak). We all agreed our sales copy should stay away fro the standard boutique cliches whenever possible. But, we did agree that the phrase "made with the highest quality components available from
some countries" might get used at some point, haha.
Quote from: cooder on November 19, 2014, 03:12:46 PM
... actually, can we have a gutshot of the Clusterfuzz or is it all gooped up...?!? Just kiddin... ;)
We will have a gutshot up soon. Some of our products will probably include schematics for service, too. We haven't decided exactly how that will play out, but I think Dave, Forrest and I pretty well agree that we should release at least partial schematics on products in a service manual and/or to the DIY community.
Quote from: madbean on November 19, 2014, 03:37:24 PM
Some of our products will probably include schematics for service, too. We haven't decided exactly how that will play out, but I think Dave, Forrest and I pretty well agree that we should release at least partial schematics on products in a service manual and/or to the DIY community.
Yeah, there's really no good reason not to have schematics public and more or less easily accessible. It will help with service for people who want to have a local tech make repairs (or even mods), it will satisfy the curious, and somebody at FSB will post it anyway -- probably sooner rather than later considering that Brian and I were once frequent contributors and both left in a huff. ;)
Quote from: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
Quote from: madbean on November 19, 2014, 03:37:24 PM
Some of our products will probably include schematics for service, too. We haven't decided exactly how that will play out, but I think Dave, Forrest and I pretty well agree that we should release at least partial schematics on products in a service manual and/or to the DIY community.
Well that wont be a good idea, at least not soon, there are china dealer that will clone that and sello them cheap AMD fool many
Yeah, there's really no good reason not to have schematics public and more or less easily accessible. It will help with service for people who want to have a local tech make repairs (or even mods), it will satisfy the curious, and somebody at FSB will post it anyway -- probably sooner rather than later considering that Brian and I were once frequent contributors and both left in a huff. ;)
I am really looking forward to your guys line up and can't wait to get my hands on something new. Might also want to look at doing a travel box for forum members to test out some pedals and can do some quick demos of them. I know some builders over at ILoveFuzz do that and have had great results.
Cody
Hey guys, I heard about this new pedal company which has this awesome pedal called the clusterfuzz being released soon. Anyone wants to trace it and do a DIY version of it? :D
In all seriousness though: looks awesome. Best of luck to you, not that you would need it
Quote from: m-Kresol on November 20, 2014, 07:28:04 AM
Hey guys, I heard about this new pedal company which has this awesome pedal called the clusterfuzz being released soon. Anyone wants to trace it and do a DIY version of it? :D
Honestly, I would welcome. In fact, I challenge *everyone* reading this to buy a Clusterfuzz and reverse engineer a schematic!! ;D
Quote from: culturejam on November 20, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on November 20, 2014, 07:28:04 AM
Hey guys, I heard about this new pedal company which has this awesome pedal called the clusterfuzz being released soon. Anyone wants to trace it and do a DIY version of it? :D
Honestly, I would welcome. In fact, I challenge *everyone* reading this to buy a Clusterfuzz and reverse engineer a schematic!! ;D
that means big board inside??
Quote from: copachino on November 20, 2014, 08:40:25 AM
that means big board inside??
I don't know what you mean.
Brian, for schematics, you could have something on the site about providing repair information for techs servicing the pedal. For instance, if some shop gets your pedal in, and the tech googles the company, then could email you and you can then send them the info.
I have done that, and it worked well.
Jacob
Brian, just rig the inside of each pedal with one of your beard hairs and when you receive a pedal back you will know its been opened.
Print on bottom:
"Void warranty if beard hair is no longer intact"
Cody
Like Forrest and Brian, I think a service manual makes a lot of sense.
We may not put it out there until we are actually shipping product, however. It'd be a bummer for somebody to release it before we do. ;D
Yeah, obviously we won't post anything until after the pedal is already being sold by dealers. Nobody will need a schematic for the first few months anyway.
And while we believe the circuit is pretty damn unique in terms of fuzz, there's simply no reason to try to hide the schematic. Our business plan is to keep pumping out new stuff. We've seen that trying to derive all income from one or two pedals for 10+ years (and then having a crybaby pity party when somebody clones them) just isn't a very realistic way to say solvent. Innovate or die!
Quote from: culturejam on November 20, 2014, 12:42:46 PM
Yeah, obviously we won't post anything until after the pedal is already being sold by dealers. Nobody will need a schematic for the first few months anyway.
And while we believe the circuit is pretty damn unique in terms of fuzz, there's simply no reason to try to hide the schematic. Our business plan is to keep pumping out new stuff. We've seen that trying to derive all income from one or two pedals for 10+ years (and then having a crybaby pity party when somebody clones them) just isn't a very realistic way to say solvent. Innovate or die!
Hey now, in theory, someday my youngest might need braces. That would change EVERYTHING. ;D
Well I'm gonna have a crybaby pity party over SOMETHING at least.
And, Cody: my beard hairs are precious cargo. Each one becomes a magic elixir when dissolved in water. I cannot just give that kind of thing away.
Quote from: madbean on November 20, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
And, Cody: my beard hairs are precious cargo. Each one becomes a magic elixir when dissolved in water. I cannot just give that kind of thing away.
Seems legit.
Cody
They dissolve?!? :o
Your avatar needs updating, then :)
Good luck with the launch!
I've got to get some beard hairs for my next build.
Dave has been pretty busy, I guess...
Quote from: aballen on November 24, 2014, 03:20:11 PM
I've got to get some beard hairs for my next build.
Not just beard hairs, MOJO beard hairs. THAT's what brings the tones.
Quote from: madbean on November 25, 2014, 07:05:07 AM
Dave has been pretty busy, I guess...
There are many more where those came from.
Quote from: madbean on November 25, 2014, 07:05:07 AM
Dave has been pretty busy, I guess...
What a cool sight that is.... stylish boards they are! 8)
Quote from: cooder on November 25, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: madbean on November 25, 2014, 07:05:07 AM
Dave has been pretty busy, I guess...
What a cool sight that is.... stylish boards they are! 8)
Would you believe that nether Forrest, Brian or I did the layout?
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Quote from: pickdropper on November 25, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
Quote from: cooder on November 25, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: madbean on November 25, 2014, 07:05:07 AM
Dave has been pretty busy, I guess...
What a cool sight that is.... stylish boards they are! 8)
Would you believe that nether Forrest, Brian or I did the layout?
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Well I would have thought that one or several of you guys where directly behind those boards however I'm also aware that you have and must have a greater team (as mentioned on fx site) working together.
So in that greater way I'm sure you are behind it even and are all pulling your weight, even if it's not directly designing this specific board layout.
I'm sure there's a lot of work and dedication in all you guys pull up there, so Brian's quote of "Dave has been pretty busy, I guess..." can certainly not be far off.
Once you guys are rolling and as you establish yourselves it would be interesting to see and learn a bit more of they works and spanners of your way of pulling up this business and how you produce, as much as you would feel comfortable sharing this journey.
I'm sure quite a number of people will find that interesting, me included.
First though, best of luck, have a great start and lotsa success! 8)
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Quote from: pickdropper on November 25, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
Quote from: cooder on November 25, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: madbean on November 25, 2014, 07:05:07 AM
Dave has been pretty busy, I guess...
What a cool sight that is.... stylish boards they are! 8)
Would you believe that nether Forrest, Brian or I did the layout?
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Well I would have thought that one or several of you guys where directly behind those boards however I'm also aware that you have and must have a greater team (as mentioned on fx site) working together.
So in that greater way I'm sure you are behind it even and are all pulling your weight, even if it's not directly designing this specific board layout.
I'm sure there's a lot of work and dedication in all you guys pull up there, so Brian's quote of "Dave has been pretty busy, I guess..." can certainly not be far off.
Once you guys are rolling and as you establish yourselves it would be interesting to see and learn a bit more of they works and spanners of your way of pulling up this business and how you produce, as much as you would feel comfortable sharing this journey.
I'm sure quite a number of people will find that interesting, me included.
First though, best of luck, have a great start and lotsa success! 8)
Thanks Cooder. I do think we'll share some of how we do it as our process gets settled down. There are some things we're still figuring out.
Without a doubt, everybody is pulling their weight. While we've spent a lot of the last year figuring out an optimal work flow, everybody involved is a vital cog and it wouldn't be the same without any of the folks involved.
And you are correct, I've been very busy lately. Brian wasn't kidding about that.
Kind of expect this level of polish knowing who is involved, still very impressed.
We have social media fully underway. We would appreciate if you guys would like, share, follow, retweet, comment, etc, on our various accounts:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Function-FX/1518493698416449
Twitter: @function_fx
Instagram: http://instagram.com/function_fx/
We will reciprocate with your social media account for your band, company, or whatever you got. 8)
Thanks!
Quote from: culturejam on January 08, 2015, 07:21:09 AM
We have social media fully underway. We would appreciate if you guys would like, share, follow, retweet, comment, etc, on our various accounts:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Function-FX/1518493698416449
Twitter: @function_fx
Instagram: http://instagram.com/function_fx/
We will reciprocate with your social media account for your band, company, or whatever you got. 8)
Thanks!
FB "liked" by my personal account and rullywow.com! Inviting others too.
Function F(x)'s final products are really looking good (as all of us fully expected!)
Yep, liked! That Clusterfuzz looks freakin' sweet. Been a while since I've purchased a commercial pedal, but that one's on the wish list.
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Thank you, gentlemen!
Lookin great indeed! Like like like! 8)
Quote from: culturejam on January 08, 2015, 07:21:09 AM
We have social media fully underway. We would appreciate if you guys would like, share, follow, retweet, comment, etc, on our various accounts:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Function-FX/1518493698416449
Twitter: @function_fx
Instagram: http://instagram.com/function_fx/
We will reciprocate with your social media account for your band, company, or whatever you got. 8)
Thanks!
Once you'll have over 300 like, you'll be able to convert the facebook adress to something like www.facebook.com/functionfx or anything else you'd like... just so you know ;)
There are so many fuckin' rules to Facebook these days. Back in 2004 when I signed up, the only rule was that you had to have a .edu email address.
Coming very soon.....keep an eye out!
https://www.youtube.com/user/gearmanndude/videos
Quote from: madbean on January 09, 2015, 06:16:03 AM
Coming very soon.....keep an eye out!
https://www.youtube.com/user/gearmanndude/videos
Can't wait!
Quote from: madbean on January 09, 2015, 06:16:03 AM
Coming very soon.....keep an eye out!
https://www.youtube.com/user/gearmanndude/videos
Today? :D
FB pics look amazing.
Quote from: madbean on January 09, 2015, 06:16:03 AM
Coming very soon.....keep an eye out!
https://www.youtube.com/user/gearmanndude/videos
Awesome.
Did you tell him that F(x) pedals actually work better with straight run cables, cause there's massive toan loss in white coily cables...
I kid, I love his demos. And he was great in School of Rock. ::)
This clip sounds huge! 8) http://www.function-fx.com/media.html (http://www.function-fx.com/media.html)
I think Brian hitched up his tiger print spandex unitard extra tight before recording this clip. :)
Quote from: playpunk on January 09, 2015, 11:58:27 AM
I think Brian hitched up his tiger print spandex unitard extra tight before recording this clip. :)
That's definitely with the pedal set more to the overdrive type of sound. It gets really fuzzy and splatty, too. I expect the Gearmandude review will show off more of its range.
I think it sounds really good. Ballsy. Really good playing helps, too.
Quote from: brejna on January 09, 2015, 11:39:44 AM
This clip sounds huge! 8) http://www.function-fx.com/media.html (http://www.function-fx.com/media.html)
No doubt.. Sounds amazing!
Cody
Liked with personal and business...
The link to FB does not work from the funtionf(x) webpage.
Josh
Quote from: gtr2 on January 09, 2015, 05:17:06 PM
The link to FB does not work from the funtionf(x) webpage.
Nice catch! We recently switched from personal account to "page", so the link is not the same. Thanks for that.
Quote from: brejna on January 09, 2015, 11:39:44 AM
This clip sounds huge! 8) http://www.function-fx.com/media.html (http://www.function-fx.com/media.html)
Was I the only one tapping my foot hoping someone was going to start wailing some awesome rock'n'roll? Shame it stopped really.
Quote from: juansolo on January 10, 2015, 09:59:32 AM
Quote from: brejna on January 09, 2015, 11:39:44 AM
This clip sounds huge! 8) http://www.function-fx.com/media.html (http://www.function-fx.com/media.html)
Was I the only one tapping my foot hoping someone was going to start wailing some awesome rock'n'roll? Shame it stopped really.
Wow. The clips sound great.
Quote from: juansolo on January 10, 2015, 09:59:32 AM
Quote from: brejna on January 09, 2015, 11:39:44 AM
This clip sounds huge! 8) http://www.function-fx.com/media.html (http://www.function-fx.com/media.html)
Was I the only one tapping my foot hoping someone was going to start wailing some awesome rock'n'roll? Shame it stopped really.
It is groovie.. It is perfect for improvising :)
Holy crap, that demo sounds amazing. :o
Super demo indeed, you guys will be rockin' it out! Greatness in a bottle... ahhh... soundcloud that is... 8)
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 09, 2015, 07:42:17 AM
I kid, I love his demos. And he was great in School of Rock. ::)
So is he him after all ?? :-)
No, he's not Jack Black, I just like perpertuating the urban myth.
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 12, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
No, he's not Jack Black, I just like perpertuating the urban myth.
It's actually Nacho Libre.
Quote from: Leevibe on January 12, 2015, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 12, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
No, he's not Jack Black, I just like perpertuating the urban myth.
It's actually Nacho Libre.
Face palm! This whole time I though it was shallow Hal!
guys guys, he actually was a substitute teacher at my grammar school and he taught us how to ROCK.. it was pretty sweet. Hell, we even won the battle of the bands that year.. so yeah, Gearmandude is a cool guy.
Cody
How is he even playing guitar when he was totally shredded in front of that car by Bruce Willis?
I've listen to that demo like 10 times in a row!
Can't wait to European distribution :)
That demo is just great. Now if you could just play it while a bikini clad woman gyrates over the hood of a Camaro it will be perfect
Far out that is EPIC!
Nice job guys 8)
GMD demo up. Sounds phenomenal. Want.
http://youtu.be/Cx2AB-VR-jM
Great words at the end of the video, too.
Sending all the best wishes to you F(x) gentlemen!
Chad
"Like a big, warm diaper..." :D :D :D great demo, he definitely finds all the sweet spots.
"Makes it like, explosive...mmm...like a big warm diaper..."
Um...not the first analogy I'd go to after three kids...
Where can we buy!!!
Josh
"GMD 2015 Fuzz of the Year!"
Must be damn good to get that honor 2 weeks into the year! 8)
Congrats gents ;)
The big warm diaper bit had me laughing. I think I will put that quote on the website.
Awesome sounding!
In the "About" section of the website, instead of just putting up your first names, maybe you could say that you are Madbean, Pickdropper, Culturejam etc., the popes of DIY, inventors of now classic circuits, that other companies have built these circuits etc., and that this is now your non-DIY company of original designs.
I'm sure gear heads who don't do DIY themselves have heard some of your names. Might help spread the word and add some street cred.
I wouldn't be too surprised if we ever realize that gearmandude is a member of this website and had been following the inception of the pedal the whole time :))
Quote from: gtr2 on January 15, 2015, 07:50:07 AM
Where can we buy!!!
Josh
Right now there are two dealers, both in Illinois. One is Goodtime Music and one is Rock N Roll Vintage. Both have stock at the moment.
We will be adding dealers as soon as people know who the hell we are. ;D
rock n roll vintage? JustNick? Cant wait for his demo :)))
wow, glowing review! that should help sales.
really pulling for you guys
Well done gents, now get it on TGP
Quote from: Cortexturizer on January 15, 2015, 08:31:03 AM
rock n roll vintage? JustNick? Cant wait for his demo :)))
Me too. Nick is the best.
Right?! I adore him. What a guy.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 15, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
Right now there are two dealers, both in Illinois. One is Goodtime Music and one is Rock N Roll Vintage. Both have stock at the moment.
Can't seem to find any FFx items on either website. Did they just get the stock recently?
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on January 15, 2015, 08:45:09 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 15, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
Right now there are two dealers, both in Illinois. One is Goodtime Music and one is Rock N Roll Vintage. Both have stock at the moment.
Can't seem to find any FFx items on either website. Did they just get the stock recently?
They've had the pedals for a couple days. Site should be updated shortly. I hope. ;D
Quote from: culturejam on January 15, 2015, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: Cortexturizer on January 15, 2015, 08:31:03 AM
rock n roll vintage? JustNick? Cant wait for his demo :)))
Me too. Nick is the best.
^ this with knobs on, he da man.
That was awesome. I love that he reviewed something that I was able to see in the budding stages here before it went retail... Awesome job guys and I look forward to getting my hands on one.
Need to get one to Andy over at ProGuitarShop also. I am sure he could make it shine also.
Cody
Wow guys! Just watched the gearmandude's review. "Fuzz of the year," "My new favorite fuzz." Congratulations. :)
Quote from: billstein on January 15, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
Wow guys! Just watched the gearmandude's review. "Fuzz of the year," "My new favorite fuzz." Congratulations. :)
Thanks guys. we're pretty excited about that review.
Damn, guys, you couldn't ask for a better introduction. Sounds awesome and he genuinely seemed to love it. Win!
Quote from: jubal81 on January 15, 2015, 10:07:39 AM
Damn, guys, you couldn't ask for a better introduction. Sounds awesome and he genuinely seemed to love it. Win!
Based on an email I got from him, I too believe he genuinely digs it. And yeah, hard to beat that for a first review.
Just bought one from rock and roll vintage!
First pedal purchase of the year ;)
Josh
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on January 15, 2015, 08:45:09 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 15, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
Right now there are two dealers, both in Illinois. One is Goodtime Music and one is Rock N Roll Vintage. Both have stock at the moment.
Can't seem to find any FFx items on either website. Did they just get the stock recently?
Try ebay, I found it over there...
Quote from: gtr2 on January 15, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Just bought one from rock and roll vintage!
Thank you!
Quote from: gtr2 on January 15, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Just bought one from rock and roll vintage!
First pedal purchase of the year ;)
Josh
Got a link? I can't find it on their site.
Way to go guys. Looks like I need to do some new pedal buying.....
Quote of the year "...explosive, like a big warm diaper...."
Quote from: jubal81 on January 15, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Got a link? I can't find it on their site.
They haven't updated their site yet. But they have it on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Function-f-x-Clusterfuzz-Fuzz-Pedal-/271742356968?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3f451b4de8
We all knew that pedal was awesome, but having gearmanndude review it is pretty legit. You guys are making it happen!
Quote from: culturejam on January 15, 2015, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: jubal81 on January 15, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
Got a link? I can't find it on their site.
They haven't updated their site yet. But they have it on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Function-f-x-Clusterfuzz-Fuzz-Pedal-/271742356968?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3f451b4de8
isn't there some heavy breathing meme?
oh yeah....
(http://i.imgur.com/WMx5PiN.gif)
Awesome stuff guys!
Gmd must play a sh*t ton of fuzzes, so for this to be his new favourite fuzzer is high praise indeed.
Oh my god! Oh my god! Fuzz of the year! Why do I feel like a proud parent? I am so freakin excited! He LOVED playing that pedal!!!!!
Steve.
Good stuff! That 8 bit knobie is an explosion like a warm diaper! Love it can't wait for the board release!
It's probably because I read _Diamond Mask_ too many times, but the word makes me think of diapir, not a nappy that you'd put on a baby.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diapir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diapir)
GMD's reviews are always interesting, but his accent and wording makes me cringe, a bit. Too over the top. (The national tendency here is towards understatement. "It's a bit chilly." (car windows iced up.))
the 8bit knob on the clusterfuzz sounds an awful lot like the Lovetone big cheese
kudos
Quote from: LaceSensor on January 18, 2015, 07:02:01 AM
the 8bit knob on the clusterfuzz sounds an awful lot like the Lovetone big cheese
Interesting. I'll have to try one of those at some point. Never had the pleasure.
There are pcbs let me know if you want one I've got handfuls...
Quote from: LaceSensor on January 19, 2015, 12:41:23 AM
There are pcbs let me know if you want one I've got handfuls...
Oooh, do I need to build one of those? /seems to be slowly getting around to many of these Lovetone things
Quote from: juansolo on January 19, 2015, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on January 19, 2015, 12:41:23 AM
There are pcbs let me know if you want one I've got handfuls...
Oooh, do I need to build one of those? /seems to be slowly getting around to many of these Lovetone things
just pm me if you want one I must have at least half a dozen of the plesur layout from Oshpark
We're starting to get a bit more exposure. Today, we got a nice review in The Gear Page Webzine and on Premier Guitar's page.
http://www.tgpwebzine.com/?page_id=3809
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/21937-function-fx-releases-the-clusterfuzz
That's a nice write up on the gear page!
My clusterfuzz should be here today!!!
Josh
Quote from: pickdropper on January 19, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
We're starting to get a bit more exposure. Today, we got a nice review in The Gear Page Webzine and on Premier Guitar's page.
http://www.tgpwebzine.com/?page_id=3809
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/21937-function-fx-releases-the-clusterfuzz
Awesome stuff...! Way to go and things like these will make a difference for sure! Best of luck! 8)
Quote from: gtr2 on January 19, 2015, 11:10:06 AM
That's a nice write up on the gear page!
My clusterfuzz should be here today!!!
Josh
Awesome. I hope you dig it (I think you will).
Quote from: cooder on January 19, 2015, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 19, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
We're starting to get a bit more exposure. Today, we got a nice review in The Gear Page Webzine and on Premier Guitar's page.
http://www.tgpwebzine.com/?page_id=3809
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/21937-function-fx-releases-the-clusterfuzz
Awesome stuff...! Way to go and things like these will make a difference for sure! Best of luck! 8)
Yeah, it really does help a lot. When you are small like us, the extra exposure is great.
I appreciate this is probably very low on your list, but at one point you might consider marketing drop in relay bypass boards based on your design.
I for one would check them out, particularly as a kit or easily-orderable parts with the uC included.
^^ We talked about that. The main issue is that it's expensive. We don't envision something like that being a big hit on the DIY scene, and that's where they would likely sell the best. I don't recall the price point we came up wit, but it was pretty high for DIY.
It's still possible we might do it, however.
Yeah, there were two issues:
1.) Surprisingly high parts cost.
2.) More parts than usual in a relay switching scheme. It'd be fairly large as a through-hole board. If we did a pre-populated SMT board it could be a bit more reasonably sized.
Also, there is a Clusterfuzz giveaway on the Gear Page. Feel free to throw your name in for a chance to win:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1529702
If most people won't use Optotrons, I doubt there's a real market for something more complex/expensive sadly.
Quote from: juansolo on January 19, 2015, 03:40:50 PM
If most people won't use Optotrons, I doubt there's a real market for something more complex/expensive sadly.
Fair
I did indeed get the Clusterfuzz today! Didn't get a lot of time with it...busy doing my own orders...but I'm digging it. Its well beyond the build quality of current "boutique" IMO...
Josh
I'm really happy for you guys, this is great stuff!
Quote from: gtr2 link =topic=12106.msg188382#msg188382 date=1421720750
I did indeed get the Clusterfuzz today! Didn't get a lot of time with it...busy doing my own orders...but I'm digging it. Its well beyond the build quality of current "boutique" IMO...
Josh
Now, you have to open it, take a photo of the guts, trace it, and release a PCB :P
Just kidding. I want one of those too badly. Haven't bought many guitar pedals (well, some broken, but not many in working conditions) and this one is a winner.
If they don't show at this side of the ocean in the following months, I'll pull the trigger on one of those Rock'n Roll Vintage has on ebay.
Quote from: micromegas on January 20, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: gtr2 link =topic=12106.msg188382#msg188382 date=1421720750
I did indeed get the Clusterfuzz today! Didn't get a lot of time with it...busy doing my own orders...but I'm digging it. Its well beyond the build quality of current "boutique" IMO...
Josh
Now, you have to open it, take a photo of the guts, trace it, and release a PCB :P
Just kidding. I want one of those too badly. Haven't bought many guitar pedals (well, some broken, but not many in working conditions) and this one is a winner.
If they don't show at this side of the ocean in the following months, I'll pull the trigger on one of those Rock'n Roll Vintage has on ebay.
We did confirm with Rock N Roll vintage that they will ship overseas.
We haven't found an EU distributor yet, so we don't have much of a timeline on that yet.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 20, 2015, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: micromegas on January 20, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: gtr2 link =topic=12106.msg188382#msg188382 date=1421720750
I did indeed get the Clusterfuzz today! Didn't get a lot of time with it...busy doing my own orders...but I'm digging it. Its well beyond the build quality of current "boutique" IMO...
Josh
Now, you have to open it, take a photo of the guts, trace it, and release a PCB :P
Just kidding. I want one of those too badly. Haven't bought many guitar pedals (well, some broken, but not many in working conditions) and this one is a winner.
If they don't show at this side of the ocean in the following months, I'll pull the trigger on one of those Rock'n Roll Vintage has on ebay.
We did confirm with Rock N Roll vintage that they will ship overseas.
We haven't found an EU distributor yet, so we don't have much of a timeline on that yet.
I know a guy here in Spain that distributes for Lollar, Collings and Grosh, I can get you in touch with him if you want. He has a shop about 50 km from my house.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 20, 2015, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: micromegas on January 20, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: gtr2 link =topic=12106.msg188382#msg188382 date=1421720750
I did indeed get the Clusterfuzz today! Didn't get a lot of time with it...busy doing my own orders...but I'm digging it. Its well beyond the build quality of current "boutique" IMO...
Josh
Now, you have to open it, take a photo of the guts, trace it, and release a PCB :P
Just kidding. I want one of those too badly. Haven't bought many guitar pedals (well, some broken, but not many in working conditions) and this one is a winner.
If they don't show at this side of the ocean in the following months, I'll pull the trigger on one of those Rock'n Roll Vintage has on ebay.
We did confirm with Rock N Roll vintage that they will ship overseas.
We haven't found an EU distributor yet, so we don't have much of a timeline on that yet.
Thomann in Germany seem to do a lot of odd stuff and are quite reasonable in the EU. Worth a shot for decent scale distribution. If you want to keep it small, Joes Pedals.
Yeah, we're definitely open to suggestions for EU distributors if you guys have folks you think are a good fit.
Obviously we are starting small, but the goal is to scale up.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 20, 2015, 03:44:52 PM
Yeah, we're definitely open to suggestions for EU distributors if you guys have folks you think are a good fit.
Obviously we are starting small, but the goal is to scale up.
If I find some time during this week, I'll write a list of well known spanish distributors with the brands they are representing.
Thomann is the biggest distributor in Europe (as long as I can recall), but also MusicStore and some others are well known around here. If I were you, I'll avoid those and focus on smaller brick & mortar stores. Not because of that "boutique thing", but because of the way they actually sell/show the product to people: small pedals companies' market is not as big in Europe as it is in USA, here people often use brands they already known, and you cannot actually play or test a pedal in a big distributor or an online store.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 20, 2015, 03:44:52 PM
Yeah, we're definitely open to suggestions for EU distributors if you guys have folks you think are a good fit.
Obviously we are starting small, but the goal is to scale up.
Joes Pedals (http://www.joespedals.com) - He imports a lot of boutique stuff into the UK and I've used him a couple of times. Seems sound for low volume stuff.
Thomann (http://www.thomann.de/gb/index.html) are in Germany and would be great for EU-wide distribution. Very sensible delivery costs and pricing. They were the only place that stocked the AMT Japanese Girl, so they're not averse to more obscure stuff. Despite being the EU's best known (and probably biggest) internet distributer.
These are more UK based: Andertons (http://www.andertons.co.uk), GAK (http://www.gak.co.uk), Dolphin (http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk) and DV247 (http://www.dv247.com). Used all of those but Andertons, but they do have a good rep.
OK, copying some bookmarks onto here for European/German distributors:
http://www.effekt-boutique.de/ (http://www.effekt-boutique.de/) Online shop for pedals
Some of these are new-ish, some have been around for decades. Some are smaller, some are really big. You can usually see on the start page what brands they represent. Sorry in case some of them have no English language site.
http://boxoftrix.de/ (http://boxoftrix.de/)
http://www.cms-music.net/ (http://www.cms-music.net/)
http://www.g66.eu/ (http://www.g66.eu/)
http://gitaarbizz.nl/ (http://gitaarbizz.nl/)
http://go4-music.de/ (http://go4-music.de/)
http://www.i-musicnetwork.com/ (http://www.i-musicnetwork.com/)
http://www.gknauermusik.shopdriver.de/ (http://www.gknauermusik.shopdriver.de/)
http://www.musikundtechnik.de/ (http://www.musikundtechnik.de/)
http://www.meinldistribution.eu/ (http://www.meinldistribution.eu/)
http://www.musicandsales.com/ (http://www.musicandsales.com/)
http://www.musik-meyer.de/ (http://www.musik-meyer.de/)
http://www.pellarin.de/ (http://www.pellarin.de/)
http://www.public-peace.de/ (http://www.public-peace.de/)
http://www.taranaki-guitars.de (http://www.taranaki-guitars.de)
http://www.smile-music.de/ (http://www.smile-music.de/)
http://www.soundservice.de/ (http://www.soundservice.de/)
http://www.trius-audio.de/ (http://www.trius-audio.de/)
http://www.warwick-distribution.de/ (http://www.warwick-distribution.de/)
http://www.musikwein.de/ (http://www.musikwein.de/)
http://worldmusicsales.com/ (http://worldmusicsales.com/)
And then there are the small reputable shops for gear nerds that carry a brand of pedals but possibly have no large influence:
http://www.realguitars.de/ (http://www.realguitars.de/) Euro distributor for Barber pedals.
http://www.deimelguitarworks.de/ (http://www.deimelguitarworks.de/) Carries Durham pedals and others. And I could go around there.
When will Axe and You Shall Receive be stocked in CAN? I saw him announce it on facebook... just wanted to know so i can spam the internets like the black plague...
Really soon. I think we are waiting for NAMM to be over.
Thank you REJ!
Quote from: madbean on January 22, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Really soon. I think we are waiting for NAMM to be over.
Thank you REJ!
Oh! Agreed, saw Scott posting about the NAMM and that he was out there.
I sincerly hope that the dealer agreement with him will be good for your guys, he's very active on GuitarCanada forum and a very nice guy to deal with, sure will help to spread out the word :)
Rej
Two new demos were added by Ron (performer of the first demo). He kinda rips, man.
[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/functionfx/sets/clusterfuzz[/cloudset]
Awesome riffage there, great sounds and certainly shows off a great range of sounds there! absolutly rockin'; rip shit 'n bust! 8)
Awesome! 8)
Best demo's ever.
I played mine in a live setting yesterday. (at church no less haha...)
The other band members commented on how they really liked that "sound"...
I found it kind of funny. I had the fuzz pot maxed!!!!
Did you do any sweep picking? Because you gotta do some sweep picking, brah.
I now have visions of Josh in full-shred mode (spandex and face pulling) in front of the congregation... ;D
Quote from: juansolo on January 26, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
I now have visions of Josh in full-shred mode (spandex and face pulling) in front of the congregation... ;D
Stryper tribute band?
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More Steel Panther...?
Those are some sweet demos, a real Neil Zaza vocal type thing going on in the third one. Not what one would expect from a "fuzz" pedal
Quote from: pickdropper on January 26, 2015, 09:05:03 AM
Stryper tribute band?
If Josh can pull off Mike's vocals, I'll stand in in Oz's spot, though me in spandex is a horrible, horrible idea.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 26, 2015, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: juansolo on January 26, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
I now have visions of Josh in full-shred mode (spandex and face pulling) in front of the congregation... ;D
Stryper tribute band?
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Rocking the Yellow and Black. Nice!
I saw them in concert last year and they were amazing. Michael Sweet's ability to shred on those heavy metal licks while singing just floored me. I think it floored Oz Fox too. He pointed it out "Can you believe he's singing while playing like that!"
GermanCdn. They're not wearing spandex any more, so you might be able to pull it off.
Quote from: billstein on January 26, 2015, 11:25:02 AM
Rocking the Yellow and Black. Nice!
I saw them in concert last year and they were amazing. Michael Sweet's ability to shred on those heavy metal licks while singing just floored me. I think it floored Oz Fox too. He pointed it out "Can you believe he's singing while playing like that!"
GermanCdn. They're not wearing spandex any more, so you might be able to pull it off.
I've successfully missed them on three separate occasions now (I swear, they have a map of Canada with only Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver on it). Twice the promoter backed out and once the show got moved by a week.
Mike is a fantastic guitar player, and I'm amazed at how his voice has held up. They're currently recording the follow up to NMHTP as we speak, I can't wait for that to come out.
Mike's new project with George Lynch comes out tomorrow. I think both George and Mike need a Clustefuzz. There, back on topic.
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 26, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
I think both George and Mike need a Clustefuzz. There, back on topic.
Thanks. For a minute there, I thought I had permanently derailed it into a Stryper thread (shudder).
Quote from: pickdropper on January 26, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 26, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
I think both George and Mike need a Clustefuzz. There, back on topic.
Thanks. For a minute there, I thought I had permanently derailed it into a Stryper thread (shudder).
Hahaha.... Look what I started! I just wanted to relay that I am using it live and finding it enjoyable!!!!!!
Not speaking of Stryper...has anyone checked out the lead singer from Cinderella lately? I think his name is Tom Keefer...? Anyway, if you know that band you his vocal style was...err, unique. Apparently he blew out his esophagus and had to learn to sing differently. And, he sounds totally different now. Plus, he plays country or something.
Quote from: madbean on January 26, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
Not speaking of Stryper...has anyone checked out the lead singer from Cinderella lately? I think his name is Tom Keefer...? Anyway, if you know that band you his vocal style was...err, unique. Apparently he blew out his esophagus and had to learn to sing differently. And, he sounds totally different now. Plus, he plays country or something.
I guess you don't know what you got till it's gone.
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Quote from: pickdropper on January 26, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
I guess you don't know what you got till it's gone.
Ouch. ;D
Quote from: gtr2 on January 26, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 26, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 26, 2015, 03:07:43 PM
I think both George and Mike need a Clustefuzz. There, back on topic.
Thanks. For a minute there, I thought I had permanently derailed it into a Stryper thread (shudder).
Hahaha.... Look what I started! I just wanted to relay that I am using it live and finding it enjoyable!!!!!!
Yeah, I'm really glad you are digging it.
We've been getting tremendous feedback from everybody who tries it. Hopefully, more folks will know about us soon.
Just got mine and it's RIPPING!!!!! ;D
Thank you to the guys here that ordered a CFuzz. I mean, that's really outstanding and unexpected. We all really, really appreciate your support.
We are getting some traction with the pedal and it feels good.
Well, at least we know that your designs are good and not 80% BS, unlike some booteekers.
Oh and it sounds freaking amazing too.
In case some of you are interested, Justnick did a review of the Clusterfuzz. You can see it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giRUmOrSi_E
There's a lot of playing before he starts talking. I believe he starts talking around the 16:40 mark.
Quote from: pickdropper on February 16, 2015, 08:47:25 AM
In case some of you are interested, Justnick did a review of the Clusterfuzz. You can see it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giRUmOrSi_E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giRUmOrSi_E)
There's a lot of playing before he starts talking. I believe he starts talking around the 16:40 mark.
Wow. You couldn't really ask for a better review. In addition to all the great things he said about it, and the sounds, you know he wouldn't have opened with him using it at a gig if he didn't love it.
It really is a fantastic pedal.
Josh
Awesome! Brilliant review, brilliant pedal!
And Nick presenting it like that, with a great endorsement at the start of a live TV gig and then an 30 min indepth video, lotsa great sounds, what's left to be said?! 8)
Good on ya guys!
His review is very insightful into the idea behind the CF. But, I do think he gives a little too much credit in the idea that every small nuance was carefully planned. Some things are happy accidents. That said, he totally nailed how I would describe the CF in a much more eloquent way. Huzzah for JustNick!
Quote from: madbean on February 16, 2015, 08:04:38 PM
But, I do think he gives a little too much credit in the idea that every small nuance was carefully planned.
Well, that's not totally true. During board population, every component is properly weighed and measured against similar components to determine that it's the most awesome part available. I find this works best:
(http://www.johnmbecker.com/content/uploads/2013/04/scales_justice.jpg)
Or did you not want me to tell them that?
It's not often that I shell out for a "boutique" pedal (and I say boutique with the most positive of connotations), but I'm gassing hard for this bad boy.
Is there any southern hemisphere distro in the pipelines? or failing that, are you guys selling direct?
I need one of these critters in my life :)
TLDR: GIMMEH!
Quote from: the3secondrule on February 16, 2015, 08:19:19 PM
It's not often that I shell out for a "boutique" pedal (and I say boutique with the most positive of connotations), but I'm gassing hard for this bad boy.
Is there any southern hemisphere distro in the pipelines? or failing that, are you guys selling direct?
I need one of these critters in my life :)
TLDR: GIMMEH!
We aren't setup to sell direct, but some of our dealers have confirmed that they do ship worldwide.
Quote from: madbean on February 16, 2015, 08:04:38 PM
His review is very insightful into the idea behind the CF. But, I do think he gives a little too much credit in the idea that every small nuance was carefully planned. Some things are happy accidents. That said, he totally nailed how I would describe the CF in a much more eloquent way. Huzzah for JustNick!
Not a problem to have happy accidents in it too, there's many happy accidents in history.
The overall concept and sound is a total winner obviously (and unlike blue tack not just a happy accident) and that's what this review nailed too! You guys must be chuffed and it's great to see this gathering steam. Reviews like this must be really helpful! Well deserved!
Yo,
Is this my best bet to get one here in the UK?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Function-f-x-Clusterfuzz-Fuzz-Pedal-/371272051366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567189eaa6
It's Rock'n'Roll Vintage eBay store.
Cheers,
Marcus
Quote from: mmlee on March 06, 2015, 12:54:31 AM
Yo,
Is this my best bet to get one here in the UK?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Function-f-x-Clusterfuzz-Fuzz-Pedal-/371272051366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567189eaa6
It's Rock'n'Roll Vintage eBay store.
Cheers,
Marcus
Hey Marcus,
At this point, it probably is as we don't have a UK distributor yet. RNR Vintage will ship worldwide, too.
Axe and You Shall Receive also ships worldwide.
So in my effort of helping out my buddys i.... somehow hooked a band to FFX ClusterFuzz.
At first it was going to my studio engineer friend Yannick, but after playing it and LOVING it, he decided to make it part of the band that he's currently producing and on tour with right now....
So yep! ClusterFuzz is rocking the northern lands right now!
(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/997056_1066398496710746_8982177318755344307_n.jpg?oh=4e222d3bb54c8ecfd822cbc2e9dd5d20&oe=5573F537)
Thanks for the hookup, Rej!
Any insider info on new releases? You guys seem to be headed in the right direction. Can't wait to see what happens next 8)
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 29, 2015, 07:08:01 AM
Any insider info on new releases? You guys seem to be headed in the right direction. Can't wait to see what happens next 8)
I just posted a pic of a populated PCB for our next release on Facebook. It's a 2-in-1 overdrive with multiple footswitching switching options.
Quote from: culturejam on March 29, 2015, 07:16:44 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 29, 2015, 07:08:01 AM
Any insider info on new releases? You guys seem to be headed in the right direction. Can't wait to see what happens next 8)
I just posted a pic of a populated PCB for our next release on Facebook. It's a 2-in-1 overdrive with multiple footswitching switching options.
Looks slick (of course). What footswitching options are we talking here?
Dave can fill in the details, but basically there are a couple of "modes" you can select by holding down both switches for a few seconds. One mode is "standard", so each switch bypasses each OD circuit like an on/ff. Another mode uses one switch to bypass the whole pedal, and the other toggles the second OD circuit off/on (so you can boost or stack). I believe a third mode has master bypass on one switch, and the other switch toggles between the two OD circuits (flip/flop).
But like I said, Dave has the details. It's microcontroller stuff, and that's usually where I check out. ;D
Quote from: culturejam on March 30, 2015, 07:30:51 AM
Dave can fill in the details, but basically there are a couple of "modes" you can select by holding down both switches for a few seconds. One mode is "standard", so each switch bypasses each OD circuit like an on/ff. Another mode uses one switch to bypass the whole pedal, and the other toggles the second OD circuit off/on (so you can boost or stack). I believe a third mode has master bypass on one switch, and the other switch toggles between the two OD circuits (flip/flop).
But like I said, Dave has the details. It's microcontroller stuff, and that's usually where I check out. ;D
My eyes were glassing over when I got to the end of that post. But it sounds cool!
Important question - how haunting are the low mids? are the upper mids sufficiently paranormal?
Well this just showed up today. It's pretty cute with its little fakey knobs there.
That looks dangerous sir, you should probably send it me.....
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when you said that you'll probably be open about circuit design/schematics, I didn't thought you were going to engrave them on the top of the pedal :P.
Looks cool.
Quote from: micromegas on May 01, 2015, 10:07:28 AM
when you said that you'll probably be open about circuit design/schematics, I didn't thought you were going to engrave them on the top of the pedal :P.
Looks cool.
LOL
Vivid marker on the pot shaft, I approve :)
More to whet your uhh, whistles?
Ooouuuuhhh.... shame about the blurry picture... ;)
SMD Rangemaster! You should have gooped it before I figured it out. Live and learn.
No, it's obviously a tricked-out bazz fuss :)
sweeet! awaiting the grandiose reveal 8)
at least two relays, must be some kind of looper/order switcher?
looks cool so far!
jeez Brian we will never be able to clone that from those pics.....
Quote from: wgc on May 04, 2015, 10:48:57 PM
at least two relays, must be some kind of looper/order switcher?
looks cool so far!
Actually, we put relays in everything. It's part of our own particular idiom.
Quote from: pickdropper on May 07, 2015, 05:33:39 AM
Quote from: wgc on May 04, 2015, 10:48:57 PM
at least two relays, must be some kind of looper/order switcher?
looks cool so far!
Actually, we put relays in everything. It's part of our own particular idiom.
Epic. XD
Oh.
Premier Guitar reviews the Clusterfuzz:
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/22525-function-fx-clusterfuzz-review (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/22525-function-fx-clusterfuzz-review)
48 sec on the audio demo...LOL. Really.
the video deserves some sharing:
I saw the bottle-neck slide next to the Clusterfuzz and got pretty excited... it's a shame he does not use it in the end...
I may have to buy a Clusterfuzz and do a crappy slide demo :P
btw, did you told Joe Gore what's inside or did he actually opened the pedal to take a look?
I think we gave the technical info.
Did we not ever post a gutshot of it here?
I don't think so, maybe from the prototype. There are a couple on facebook though.
Quote from: micromegas on May 08, 2015, 06:56:36 AM
btw, did you told Joe Gore what's inside or did he actually opened the pedal to take a look?
We gave them tech details, but not nearly as many as he wrote about. So I assume he popped the hood and had a look. Good for him! That's exactly what I do and what any discerning consumer should do.
Quote from: micromegas on May 08, 2015, 07:06:24 AM
I don't think so, maybe from the prototype. There are a couple on facebook though.
This is pretty current. Forrest and I do the layouts for the prototypes, but for production layouts we hand it over to our engineer, Jerry. He also designed the switching system. It even has headers on it so we can program the chips right on the board. Jerry is pretty awesome. Dave and Jerry also do final assembly and testing. We've got them set up so they are very easy to plug/unplug with the headers and stuff.
One other cool thing is we have AC detection in there so it won't fry the board if you plug in AC instead of DC.
No goop!!! Those boys over at JHS are gonna be all over this!!!
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those guts are beautiful.
Are those two TO-92 things in the lower left corner related to the AC detection circuit?
Is that a one-layer pcb btw?
too many questions... I have to save some money and get one :)
Quote from: micromegas on May 09, 2015, 10:22:39 AM
those guts are beautiful.
Are those two TO-92 things in the lower left corner related to the AC detection circuit?
Is that a one-layer pcb btw?
too many questions... I have to save some money and get one :)
Those are actually for the switching circuit. The AC protection is done with a PTC.
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Yeah, my calling "detection" was a bit of a quaff. It's the PTC (something I've never used outside of FFX).
Quote from: pickdropper on May 09, 2015, 10:31:17 AM
Quote from: micromegas on May 09, 2015, 10:22:39 AM
those guts are beautiful.
Are those two TO-92 things in the lower left corner related to the AC detection circuit?
Is that a one-layer pcb btw?
too many questions... I have to save some money and get one :)
Those are actually for the switching circuit. The AC protection is done with a PTC.
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That makes sense.... a lot of sense. Now I know why R5 looked like a ceramic cap :)
Plus those transistors were too close to the relay and to far from the dc source..
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140818015225/fantendo/images/2/23/Batman-facepalm.jpg)
Here's some general info how PTCs:
http://www.littelfuse.com/products/resettable-ptcs.aspx
It's a two-layer PCB, Adán. But yeah, all the traces are on the bottom (at least as far as I can tell). I didn't do the layout, so I might be wrong.
Thanks for all the info guys! And sorry for bothering you
I have seen PTCs used in some comercial pedals at FSB dissections. Even JHS guys added one to their Morning Glory I think...
It's a good practice, a lot of people out there don't really care about what they stick into their dc plugs.... 9v is 9v and 12v is 12v, right? :P
You're not bothering anyone. I'm just glad that there are questions I can answer. ;D
Quote from: madbean on May 09, 2015, 10:34:08 AM
Yeah, my calling "detection" was a bit of a quaff. It's the PTC (something I've never used outside of FFX).
A thermistor is a detection element, so you were right in the end :)
(I love when you guys use slang words and I have to search them on google and end up spending 15 min going through Urban Dictionary definitions, there are some funny ones -> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quaff)
Quote from: micromegas on May 09, 2015, 10:48:37 AM
Thanks for all the info guys! And sorry for bothering you
I have seen PTCs used in some comercial pedals at FSB dissections. Even JHS guys added one to their Morning Glory I think...
It's a good practice, a lot of people out there don't really care about what they stick into their dc plugs.... 9v is 9v and 12v is 12v, right? :P
It's nice insurance for both customer and builder. It reduces the chance of the user having to send it in for service and the builder from having to do the service.
I'm seriously blown away with the engineering here. Shame 99% of people won't understand how well made it really is.
Quote from: jubal81 on May 09, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
I'm seriously blown away with the engineering here. Shame 99% of people won't understand how well made it really is.
Thanks Jason, we certainly are aiming high, so we appreciate it when it's noticed.
What you see in the gutshot is a contribution from the entire team, but the our lesser-known member Jerry has been particularly important. Jerry is the only non-guitar player in the group, but he has the most professional board layout experience. I learned most of my PCB layout tricks from him and it's really only a small fraction of what he knows. He's also got a background in designing PICS (the architecture of them, not just using them for designs) which has also helped out a lot.
Boys, save your pennies! I just got finished testing our prototype dual overdrive (after changing out a couple part values). Man, it's awesome!
Sweet! I think I might have to buy a pedal or two....
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Premier Guitar just sent out an email. And our pedal is sitting next to Faith No More!!! ;D :o 8)
Quote from: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 06:23:10 PM
Premier Guitar just sent out an email. And our pedal is sitting next to Faith No More!!! ;D :o 8)
Not only that, but you got the coveted "
magic circus pony!" designation...
Since it was already posted on Facebook, might as well share it here. Early build of the new overdrive.
Looking good!
is there a particular reason why you used SMD resistors but through hole caps?
Quote from: m-Kresol on May 12, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
Looking good!
is there a particular reason why you used SMD resistors but through hole caps?
There are SMD caps too...
Quote from: m-Kresol on May 12, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
Looking good!
is there a particular reason why you used SMD resistors but through hole caps?
Space considerations. We couldn't fit it all in with through-hole parts. We had enough room for film caps in the signal path so that's what we did. There are SMT ceramic caps for the sections outside of the direct audio path.
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People seem to have the most problem with caps being surface mount. So we made them bigger in order to let the mojo flow better. ;D
When can i preorder? haha
Quote from: pickdropper on May 12, 2015, 11:03:22 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on May 12, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
Looking good!
is there a particular reason why you used SMD resistors but through hole caps?
Space considerations. We couldn't fit it all in with through-hole parts. We had enough room for film caps in the signal path so that's what we did. There are SMT ceramic caps for the sections outside of the direct audio path.
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Always keeping it classy ....
Third rail is nicely symmetrical. Same effect on both sides?
Quote from: jubal81 on May 12, 2015, 11:31:26 AM
Third rail is nicely symmetrical. Same effect on both sides?
Forgive my parlance, as I've spent the last two weeks searching through contracts and service agreements...
The two sides are "substantially similar". ;D
PTC is smt in this one :)
I think I already said this on facebook, but this layout is a fine piece of art. You should start considering the use of plexi transparent backplates
OK dammit, I can't help it - I have to sleuth.
Those TO-92 can't be JFETs. Each side has two pairs of clipping diodes. We in the Muff family here?
We're pretty excited about this one, too. It's got some cool switching features in it. Basically there are three modes:
Mode 1: each switch is bypass for a circuit. This is like a standard dual pedal.
Mode 2: one switch is master bypass, the other toggles between circuits. An example of this would be to have one channel for rhythm and one lead. You can switch between them without dancing.
Mode 3: dual mode (aka Third Rail mode). One switch is bypass for both circuits at the same time. The other is a momentary bypass for both.
This pedal started out as a single circuit but we found we all really liked it as two stacked pedals so we decided to make it a dual.
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Quote from: jubal81 on May 12, 2015, 12:02:35 PM
OK dammit, I can't help it - I have to sleuth.
Those TO-92 can't be JFETs. Each side has two pairs of clipping diodes. We in the Muff family here?
Nope, not a muff. It's doing its own thing.
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It borrows a trick from the Muff, but the sound of the circuit is FAR from a Muff.
Exciting to see the development! ;D
Here's a demo by Mike Hermans:
Q&A with yours truly (on behalf of FFX):
http://www.pedal-of-the-day.com/2016/06/08/weekly-interview-6816-forrest-from-functionfx/
And another excellent Mike Hermans demo:
pretty wicked demos!
Nice q&a! I'm glad you guys are getting these opportunities for exposure. The pedals both look excellent. Can't wait to see what you guys release next.
:like: 8)
New Function fx milestone:
1st pedal featured on FSB:
http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27052
^^ Back in October. ;D I actually didn't notice it until the other day, so it was new to me.
Hi you all,
It's been forever and it's gonna be another one before i can get back to the forum but i saw this yesterday and felt incredibly proud. Just as if my national team just won a championship:
Thanks, djaaz!
Been a while. Are there any new developments? New ideas in the pipeline? 8)
Yes, we are weeks away from the next release. It looks like it will be called the "Parallax". It's a phaser/tremolo. It sounds...pretty insane!
Did somebody say phaser?
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Quote from: jimilee on September 09, 2016, 02:27:22 PM
Did somebody say phaser?
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Do you just have the word on your RSS feed?
My spider sense was tingling
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