Just did a quick demo playing around with the dynamics of this. I put some comments in the track to hopefully answer some questions. It's probably not the best recording, I always have trouble setting levels, but I think it gives a decent idea of some of the sounds.
Just me noodling :)
http://soundcloud.com/slimtriggers/plexi
Cool demo, nice structure and good quality... its good to hear what these pedals can do, thanks for posting it :)
Thanks for checking it out :)
This pedal really seems to take other pedals well, if that makes sense. There's some fizzy-ness on the decay, though, that I can't seem to dial out. I may try to pop another opamp in there to see if that's the culprit.
That really sounds great. I'm shocked by the dynamics it has. It sounds like the pedal is off when you first turn it on. And then into that great crunch tone. Is there some guitar volume knob action going on here?
Hey,
Thanks for posting this--I've been trying to troubleshoot mine for over a month. Yours doesn't sound that far off so now I'm thinking maybe there isn't anythIng wrong with mine. In which case, perhaps the pedal isn't what I thought it was. Mine has that fizzy decay also...
How far do you have the gain knobs turned up?
Also to clarify, for the leads you have a TS going into it in high gain mode?
J
Quote from: bigmufffuzzwizz on June 04, 2011, 04:13:02 AM
That really sounds great. I'm shocked by the dynamics it has. It sounds like the pedal is off when you first turn it on. And then into that great crunch tone. Is there some guitar volume knob action going on here?
No volume knob twiddling, that was just playing harder or softer. It really responds to the dynamics of your playing like an amp does.
Quote from: Myramyd on June 04, 2011, 04:36:44 AM
Hey,
Thanks for posting this--I've been trying to troubleshoot mine for over a month. Yours doesn't sound that far off so now I'm thinking maybe there isn't anythIng wrong with mine. In which case, perhaps the pedal isn't what I thought it was. Mine has that fizzy decay also...
How far do you have the gain knobs turned up?
Also to clarify, for the leads you have a TS going into it in high gain mode?
J
I wish I'd made note of the settings on the pedal. I know that I didn't have either gain knob cranked. I
think they were around 2 o'clock. I
did have the volume knob on the pedal WAY down to keep from being too loud. It was around 9 o'clock. I didn't use the boost at all. And I think the tone knob was around 11 o'clock. It doesn't seem to get
super hi-gain, but I was playing at low volume through a clean amp.
Yes, there's a TS going into it for the leads. It really takes well to the TS. Seems to like the fuzz pedal, too.
Great demo! It makes me want to build one ;)
QuoteThanks for posting this--I've been trying to troubleshoot mine for over a month. Yours doesn't sound that far off so now I'm thinking maybe there isn't anythIng wrong with mine. In which case, perhaps the pedal isn't what I thought it was. Mine has that fizzy decay also...
I just finished my Boneyard and I really didn't care for it. I replaced the LED clippers with silicon diode clippers and it sounds much better to me. I have found that I usually do not like the sound of LED clipping. It just seems kind of harsh to me. You may want to try this before you give up on it.
It really makes me wonder what the people did with the CM to make the demos sound so good.
Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng4peS3MjrY
Sounds nothing like my Boneyard at all.
But, as you say, my next step is to desolder then socket the LEDs, also the non-stock components and do some experimenting.
But when I put a TS in front of the Boneyard it does sound more like I want it to--it sounds like the demo above. :P
J
hello
effectivelly the demo doesn't sound like a plexitone (I have it). Even if the sound of this demo remains good and the boneyard seems really dynamic....
The youtube demo is exactly how the plexitone sounds and to be honest, I've never found before a pedal like this ....
A bientot
I initially tried to get a convincing VH type tone, but I couldn't get it with this pedal. Maybe more due to my lack of skill than anything else :-\
Even so, it does have a very amp-like response and I like the sounds it gets. But I agree that it's not the same as the tones in the Pete Thorn video. (BTW, Pete Thorn's album is great if you haven't heard it yet)
I definitely want to try out other diodes for clipping. :)
sounds great! i like it. nice playing too.
Thanks :)
A quick do over with R5 changed to 47R. Makes a big difference IMHO. Playing's a bit sloppy. Sorry about that. :(
No 808 used in this. The only drive is the Boneyard.
http://soundcloud.com/slimtriggers/plex2
Greaaaat!! It does sound waay better in my opinion! Much closer to the original Plexitone. I think this is something we should report back to Brian as an improvement (or maybe correction?) since it seems like a few guys have had good results with R5 being 47ohms...
Thanks for the demo!!
-Kaleb
Cool re-demo man. I dig throwing in the Phase 90!
I just got done testing mine with 47R for R5 and mine sounds identical to yours.
I'm VERY happy with the results!
J
It's hard to imagine that one stinking resistor can make that much of a difference but mine definitely sounds much better now and I think yours does to based on the demo.
Thanks for checking it out!!
Yeah, just one resistor made all the difference in the world! It really came alive with that change.
I need to learn some more VH stuff now 8)
Holy crap! That little resistor change really did make all the difference! Good job on finding that! You really got yourself a VH sounding pedal now! wow
Myramyd deserves the credit for finding the R5 grail 8)
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=1978.msg15693#msg15693
It was OK before, but I love it now!! I was going to build a BSIAB, but now I guess I don't need to :)
Thanks ;D
What gave me the idea was that I was troubleshooting each piece of the circuit and I noticed when I jumpered over R5 it sounded closer to how I thought it should sound (albeit a bit over the top).
But yes, LOVE is the word I would use for it now. It means that I don't have to haul my Marshall half-stack to practice 1-2 times a week since I can simulate it with my DRRI now! (Although we gig almost every weekend, so my back will continue to hurt.) I may even be able to use this for the quieter/shorter gigs.
J
Awesome help guys, thanks to everyone and especially Myramyd!
I've just finished mine now with R5 as 47 ohms and red LEDs in clippers, sounds friggin' awesome.
I've ended up using a MAX 1044 charge pump as the others I had (LTC 1044 and 7660) gave me a high pitch squeal on high gain channel when cranked.
But now it's all sweet! Awesome pedal! ;D