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Title: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: drolo on December 05, 2016, 02:28:05 PM

Seems like having 2 Molecular Disruption Devices (thread disappeared in the crash but you can check it out here (http://www.davidrolo.com/effects/molecular-disruption-device-spin-semi-fv-1-based-multi-effect/) ) with 8 programs each was getting too little ... so I decided to build another one. Since I did not need the expression pedal and tap switch as much as I would have thought I made a new layout for a smaller version.


Same circuit as the MDD minus the tap switch, tap switch option control and expression pedal input.


(http://www.davidrolo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/DSCF0261.jpg)(http://www.davidrolo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Untitled.jpg)(http://www.davidrolo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/MDDjunior.png)

Quite happy with the smaller footprint and reduced number of options (choices, choices ...)


Had built it a while ago but having been busy moving to a new house I had no time to post it yet.
Also some patches I have been working on:

Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: Tremster on December 05, 2016, 02:37:35 PM
"Build of the year" contest is here:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?board=89.0 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?board=89.0)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: bcalla on December 05, 2016, 02:46:35 PM
Ooooh!  Nice!
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: Addy Bart on December 06, 2016, 12:02:20 AM
Somehow I missed that YouTube clip from August but wow, those patches sound fantastic David. Any plans to add them to the zip on your site? I loved the dynamic vibrato and the particolay.

The pedal looks great by the way!
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: Timko on December 06, 2016, 02:09:04 AM
Looks and sounds great!  I've got an MDD that will get built sometime soon.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: kinski on December 06, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
Are you selling the PCB and programmed chip?
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: stringsthings on December 06, 2016, 11:15:13 PM
Just ordered some supplies for SMD/SMT soldering.   Also, a few practice boards off ebay.
Now I'll be all set for projects like this!
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: matmosphere on December 06, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
That all sounds great, but the glitch delay and the ring mod are just killer. I might have to explore this fv1 thing soon.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: drolo on December 07, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
Quote from: kinski on December 06, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
Are you selling the PCB and programmed chip?
Selling programmed chips would be too much of a hassle for me and I would need to charge way more than you could imagine :-)
But the PCB's I could, if there is enough interest
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: Dminner on December 07, 2016, 03:13:53 PM
Holy crap that glitcholay and pitch glitch are soooo cool.  I need that in my life.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: zombie_rock123 on December 07, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
Posting interest in the pcb  :D
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: icecycle66 on December 07, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
I'm gonna need some of these.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: sonnyboy27 on December 07, 2016, 10:58:19 PM
I'd love one of these to start playing around with. +1 on the PCB interest.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: LaceSensor on December 07, 2016, 11:32:55 PM
really need to go into commercial operations with stuff like this, its really amazing.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: stringsthings on December 08, 2016, 12:38:22 AM
Very interested in a pcb !
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: Dminner on December 08, 2016, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on December 07, 2016, 11:32:55 PM
really need to go into commercial operations with stuff like this, its really amazing.

For real! I would buy one! In fact, if you would consider selling a complete pedal pm me ;)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: kinski on December 08, 2016, 01:10:44 AM
If programming the chip isn't too hard, I'd order one too!
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: glops on December 08, 2016, 01:34:54 AM
Holy Crap!

Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: gordo on December 08, 2016, 04:26:46 AM
Good for a few boards
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: raulduke on December 08, 2016, 04:15:31 PM
This is awesome work as usual dude.

I'd buy a PCB or two (bet you knew that already though eh  ;D)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: drolo on December 08, 2016, 05:33:32 PM
Thanks for your comments and for your interest in PCB's
I am going to organize a group buy for these but I am still figuring out some details.
Mainly the issue of the mini rotary 8 position switches needed.
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y492/drolobucket/b51179a9-fee1-4a8e-8e9a-ad229cd3a9d3_zps3e68aa85.jpg)
The source I had for these does not carry them any longer. They are much harder to find than the 2p4t ones that are used in many projects these days. I have some left but I am hanging on to them as they are great. I finally found another source and ordered some. Once I get them (china post) and confirm they are good I will be able to sell them with the PCB's. If not I will need to find another way (possibly redesigning the PCB for more common switches)

I will keep you posted

P.S. if anyone would know where to find these from a reliable source that would be great.
I have not found out yet who makes these. The model seems to be called SR16. (incidentally I saw in one of Keeley's shop movies that he uses them in his FV1 pedals ... perhaps I should just ask him ...)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: Strategy on December 08, 2016, 05:41:01 PM
Interested in PCB! Great stuff!
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: jubal81 on December 08, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Love this switch, which I used in the Brazen Bull. Very high quality and actuation feels great. Downside is price and fitting with 9mm pots.
Thought about a push button and electronic switching? Maybe a rotary encoder ...


(http://www.mouser.com/images/alphataiwan/images/SR1712F_series_DSL.jpg)


http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alpha-Taiwan/SR1712F-0204-20F0A-N9-N-027/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujuSFdWxZdTftuAGiL2g07Y50gwMqkHPksxFlt6OtAZLA%3d%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alpha-Taiwan/SR1712F-0204-20F0A-N9-N-027/?qs=%2fha2pyFadujuSFdWxZdTftuAGiL2g07Y50gwMqkHPksxFlt6OtAZLA%3d%3d)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: drolo on January 25, 2017, 01:11:07 PM
FYI Group buy: http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=24756.0
:-)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: bluescage on January 25, 2017, 01:33:22 PM
Wow what a great project again!
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: nzCdog on January 26, 2017, 12:47:46 AM
Egad.  Brilliant design, love it!  Must have a pcb! 8)
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: kinski on January 26, 2017, 01:34:34 AM
What do you guys recommend for programming the chip? Some piece of hardware to connect to the computer, I imagine.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: selfdestroyer on January 26, 2017, 01:59:07 AM
Quote from: kinski on January 26, 2017, 01:34:34 AM
What do you guys recommend for programming the chip? Some piece of hardware to connect to the computer, I imagine.

I love my Pickit 2 and/or 3 .. Its simple and works on PC & Mac

I actually own them both and just use the one that is on my bench at the time.

Cody
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: kinski on January 26, 2017, 03:02:00 AM
Thanks! Do you recommend any specific software as well? Sorry, new to all this programming stuff.
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: drolo on January 26, 2017, 10:54:20 AM

Quote from: kinski on January 26, 2017, 03:02:00 AM
Thanks! Do you recommend any specific software as well? Sorry, new to all this programming stuff.

This allows you to create patches in a visual environment (patching blocks of code together that represent a function, like a filter, a delay etc)

Actually you don't even need to write your whole programs, there are a lot of great programs to be found on the SpinSemi website and especially their forum.

Compiling the HEX file from ASM programs can be done with the SpinASM software available on the SpinSemi website.

If you are using SpinCad, the last version is able to generate a HEX file as well.

For that, as suggested a pickit 2, 3 or even a cheap chinese clone thereof will work fine.

(note: I am absolutely no programmer and very new this as well so sorry for my simplistic and naive explanations  ;) )
Title: Re: MOLECULAR COMPACTOR (Spin Semi FV-1 based)
Post by: kinski on January 26, 2017, 07:16:18 PM
Thanks! Exactly what I needed to know!