If you are a member of the VFE Patreon group support is also available here on the forum for the Patreon effects builds. Please feel free to ask questions and receive help on your builds. I'm not quite up to speed on the new designs yet but I will be building a Dragon up next week. I'll do my best to help with any basic build questions, etc. Specific questions about rewards, shipping, etc should still be directed to Peter through Patreon.
Peter has also posted a video on building the Patreon effects. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet but that is another resource of information at your disposal.
Cool. Really nice projects. I'm almost done building a Pinball.
I have a Dragon Overdrive, but I could use a drill template. I may have missed it with all the stuff that has been sent. Brian, do you have one, or have a way to get one that could be shared here? Or please correct me if I missed it somehow?
Thank you for providing Patreon support.
I snagged the comp/overdrive...White Tiger I think it's called. Looking forward to it.
Snagged a physical reward this month, and I'm putting together a mental shopping list. Its interesting that the previous iteration of this designed use the TLE2074 quad op amp. The new one uses a "MC33074", which I'm not familiar with. On the plus side, though, its a quarter the cost.
On the other hand, I already have a spare TLE2074.... anyone know how equivalent they are? I'm guessing they'd drop in, they appear to have the same pinout, but the specifics of the spec sheet are a bit greek to me.
I just became a Patreon support today. I didn't notice Peter post that he ended the Patreon support after I checked out the pledge. Will he still send the reward or drop my pledge? Any idea, guys?
Quote from: fair.child on January 22, 2018, 06:58:40 PM
I just became a Patreon support today. I didn't notice Peter post that he ended the Patreon support after I checked out the pledge. Will he still send the reward or drop my pledge? Any idea, guys?
Send him a patreon message or email him, he's usually pretty good about responding (with a delay). That said I know he froze the donations a few weeks back so its possible that your support won't actually process.
Then again I've been a supporter since August and only managed to get 1 of his board file dumps, back in October. It seems his sending method doesn't cooperate with Gmail, leading to much frustration.
Quote from: somnif on January 22, 2018, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: fair.child on January 22, 2018, 06:58:40 PM
I just became a Patreon support today. I didn't notice Peter post that he ended the Patreon support after I checked out the pledge. Will he still send the reward or drop my pledge? Any idea, guys?
Send him a patreon message or email him, he's usually pretty good about responding (with a delay). That said I know he froze the donations a few weeks back so its possible that your support won't actually process.
Then again I've been a supporter since August and only managed to get 1 of his board file dumps, back in October. It seems his sending method doesn't cooperate with Gmail, leading to much frustration.
Just sent him the message through Patreon. Hopefully, he will reply back. Has anyone seen his educational video? That might be interesting to learn more about his method building pedals.
Update: He closed out the Patreon and he planned to issue refund for late supporters. I am still intrigued to get the EAGLE files for previous projects. I sent him a message to raise this question.
Does anyone have any info on the Tiger? I'm in the troubleshooting phase and not sure what any of the pots actually do at this point.
Quote from: gordo on March 25, 2018, 01:57:50 AM
Does anyone have any info on the Tiger? I'm in the troubleshooting phase and not sure what any of the pots actually do at this point.
I'm still waiting on my Tiger board. I was meant to get one as part of the last round of rewards, but its been 3 months and its not yet arrived. Didn't get the last batch of board/schematic files either.
I've tried emailing Peter a few times but haven't gotten any responses. Its a little disappointing.
Quote from: gordo on March 25, 2018, 01:57:50 AM
Does anyone have any info on the Tiger? I'm in the troubleshooting phase and not sure what any of the pots actually do at this point.
Comparing the Tiger and White Horse schematics, most of the pots are in about the same locations. Looking at the boards of both pedals and the pot locations on the front of built ones, I would guess (please correct me):
A10k - Level
C100k - Sustain
B1k - Blend
A50k - High pass filter
I was also told that the tiger board "requires a modification", but didn't hear any more than that. He said he would do the mod to the boards he was sending out, but thats the last I heard on the issue.
Quote from: somnif on March 25, 2018, 01:59:43 AM
Quote from: gordo on March 25, 2018, 01:57:50 AM
Does anyone have any info on the Tiger? I'm in the troubleshooting phase and not sure what any of the pots actually do at this point.
I'm still waiting on my Tiger board. I was meant to get one as part of the last round of rewards, but its been 3 months and its not yet arrived. Didn't get the last batch of board/schematic files either.
I've tried emailing Peter a few times but haven't gotten any responses. Its a little disappointing.
Yeah, same here. Really disappointing.
Just got an email from Peter saying the stuff was in the mail (hooray). I figured it was just him getting overwhelmed by school again (I teach too, I get it) but it was nice to hear it confirmed.
I just received my last Patreon board. I got a Dragon and it came with the enclosure and a pair of dual pots. I did send him a very gracious thank you note. I hope this one goes together OK, the Tiger is in the pile o' fail but I'll get back to it.
I'm quite disappointed with the whole Patreon experience but again, only from the standpoint that I didn't get to tap into the knowledge of the man. I was really looking forward to following the man's thought process.
Having over-committed to stuff before I totally get his problems. Then factor in running a job, a business, and a new home. I wished him all the success he deserves.
Funny part is that there are a whole herd of equally amazing rocket surgeons in these parts (the guy running this joint is a prime example) and I'd be doing a great disservice to everyone to put Peter above any of them. I find myself being a bit of a sponge just trying to absorb the little nuggets of knowledge that get fired off at random here.
Having said that... Bean, maybe you pick up where this leaves off? Seriously, in terms of a subscription service it's a revenue stream for you and you document how you think thru a project and then rather than just buy a board we up the ante with paying for the process attached to it. I know I'd commit in a heartbeat.
Quote from: gordo on March 31, 2018, 01:55:17 AM
Having said that... Bean, maybe you pick up where this leaves off? Seriously, in terms of a subscription service it's a revenue stream for you and you document how you think thru a project and then rather than just buy a board we up the ante with paying for the process attached to it. I know I'd commit in a heartbeat.
Actually, I have been kicking around that idea for several months - a complete video tutorial course on pedal building from concept - breadboard - Eagle design - prototype all the way up to releasing a commercial pedal. But, I'd probably just release the whole thing free. Or, maybe a small Kickstarter with the finished PCB or kit for some support (with the course material still being free). I'd kinda like to do it but it's a serious commitment. Maybe, though!
Quote from: madbean on April 03, 2018, 12:19:54 AM
Quote from: gordo on March 31, 2018, 01:55:17 AM
Having said that... Bean, maybe you pick up where this leaves off? Seriously, in terms of a subscription service it's a revenue stream for you and you document how you think thru a project and then rather than just buy a board we up the ante with paying for the process attached to it. I know I'd commit in a heartbeat.
Actually, I have been kicking around that idea for several months - a complete video tutorial course on pedal building from concept - breadboard - Eagle design - prototype all the way up to releasing a commercial pedal. But, I'd probably just release the whole thing free. Or, maybe a small Kickstarter with the finished PCB or kit for some support (with the course material still being free). I'd kinda like to do it but it's a serious commitment. Maybe, though!
That sounds amazing. Count me in whenever/if this happens.
On the new boards there are "OSC", "x2", and "x3" pads. I'm back tracking thru Patreon docs but any idea what those are?
Quote from: gordo on April 04, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
On the new boards there are "OSC", "x2", and "x3" pads. I'm back tracking thru Patreon docs but any idea what those are?
I bought a Standout from him a while back with a charge pump, looks like the charge pump is on another board hooked up right underneath to these pads. So I assume these are only for split rail or charge pump additions to the board.
Quote from: somnif on March 25, 2018, 06:13:05 AM
I was also told that the tiger board "requires a modification", but didn't hear any more than that. He said he would do the mod to the boards he was sending out, but thats the last I heard on the issue.
I got a Tiger board from his a bit ago where he did the mod. So it looks like he added a 200k trim pot lug 2 to the 33k resistor location. Lug 1 connects to the a 47k resistor into the 33k spot. Then lug 1 has this carbon film looking thing with a single black band that connects to the 220k spot. No idea what this is.
I tried to get a good picture but no dice.. here is the blurry crap I took.
(https://i.imgur.com/wjfxHdv.jpg)
Haven't had time to build it so no idea what it does.
I have no idea about the circuit or the board, but the resistor with the single black band should be a 0 Ohm resistor, ie. a jumper for easier wiring. Just a guess though
That's interesting, I've never seen an actual 0 ohm component before. Thanks for the update ralfg I'll dig the board out tomorrow and see if it makes sense.
Quote from: madbean on April 03, 2018, 12:19:54 AM
But, I'd probably just release the whole thing free.
Don't you dare!
The Dragon is going into the box of fail as well. Has ANYONE had any luck getting one of these turds together? I get effect although some settings produce a gated/glitchy decay. It has the same problem as the Tiger...bypass LED works but bypass doesn't. Relay clicked once and seems locked in effect mode. Maybe the chips are bad?
I think I need to step away from these boards for a while and come back some day.
Quote from: gordo on April 15, 2018, 10:57:32 PM
The Dragon is going into the box of fail as well. Has ANYONE had any luck getting one of these turds together? I get effect although some settings produce a gated/glitchy decay. It has the same problem as the Tiger...bypass LED works but bypass doesn't. Relay clicked once and seems locked in effect mode. Maybe the chips are bad?
I think I need to step away from these boards for a while and come back some day.
If you want to start a dedicated thread for your builds and upload some pics I'd be happy to take a look at it.
Crap. Now that I've calmed down I realize that the switching is changed with the new boards. "Live" I think they're called.
The relay is a different one than the VFE switching board ("Working" I think they're called). I think the difference is that the new boards don't support batteries so to simplify the circuit and reduce parts count the TQ2-5V relay is used instead of the TQ2-L-5V. If I read the data sheet right it's a non-latching coil.
I totally missed that. So I guess I need to order a few relays and walk back my "turd" comment. The Dragon is socketed so shouldn't be a big deal but the Tiger isn't and I can image it's going to be a challenge to get all ten pins to let go :-)
Maybe I'll even man up and draw up the mods to the Tiger board based on the Eagle files (which has the mods).
Good find on the TQ2-5v! I have the same problem with my Monarch build. That didn't even remotely cross my mind, thanks for that. My Tiger schematic does not have the mod, wonder if my files are old. Does yours include the Dragon files? I never got those either.
Mine's from the November files under overdrive (Dragon) and compressor (Tiger). The Tiger has a trim pot beside the relay in this version. The earlier version (October maybe?) has the board we have.
Dammit, maybe he's teaching me something after all...
Probably no surprise that if you use the right relay the pedal works. My Mouser order just got here and I've used sockets on the two boards I have (Tiger and Dragon). Both are working now. I'll post a drill guide that is by no means "official" but it worked for my builds.
Does anyone know where in the files or if they have the code to program there own microchips for this project? Or can we get these from Madbean unfortunately I made my board with SMD for this chip so I feel like he wont have this.
I don't have the code to program the microcontrollers and I do not have any surface mount ones, unfortunately. Sorry I cannot be of more help here.
Do you have the DIP ones I could make it work I know there are wonky DIP to SMD adaptors.