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Title: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 08, 2017, 04:55:33 PM
Ok, I'm going to be honest.  I only built this because I wanted to use the reverse centaur graphic.  It came up in a thread about somebody on TGP (Outlaw), thus the Outlaw themed pot labels and "winch", which is a running TGP joke.

The board is an old layout I had in the bin of random boards.  I wasn't planning on boxing it, but it was there, so I put it in this box.

(https://i.imgur.com/6PKgIb3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G23Uzg5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HPjb7c5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uBJM08x.jpg)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: playpunk on September 08, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
Now I really want to finish Kim Un Unicorn, the klon  im building for the sweet graphic. :) lovely as always!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: madbean on September 08, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
Well that's disturbing looking.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: diablochris6 on September 08, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
Haha. I appreciate the honest pedal naming. You're as honest as the overdrive itself!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 08, 2017, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: madbean on September 08, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
Well that's disturbing looking.

I know.  It's it great?
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: gordo on September 08, 2017, 06:38:14 PM
That's hilarious.  The worst of both worlds.  Damned fine build though (as usual) and a definite double take for anyone sniffing around your board.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: chordball on September 08, 2017, 07:07:38 PM
Awesome! :o
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: jubal81 on September 08, 2017, 07:46:19 PM
100% worth it.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Zigcat on September 09, 2017, 01:06:25 AM
Holy sh#t! This is so amazing and I am certain this will be imitated by many, including myself. So good!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Cortexturizer on September 09, 2017, 02:02:04 AM
hilarious! love it!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Soup39 on September 09, 2017, 03:12:42 AM
Love it well done.  Where did you source those knobs?
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: m-Kresol on September 09, 2017, 03:13:47 AM
love the graphics and how you wired the stereo pot!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Andlord on September 09, 2017, 03:17:55 AM
This is so wierd. Why does it still has a pair of horse legs? In my mind reversed centaur would be a man with a horse head

Love it anyway:D
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 09, 2017, 04:27:40 AM
Quote from: Andlord on September 09, 2017, 03:17:55 AM
This is so wierd. Why does it still has a pair of horse legs? In my mind reversed centaur would be a man with a horse head

Love it anyway:D

Yep, it's definitely not as anatomically correct as a normal reverse Centaur.  ;-)

It actually has 4 legs and 2 arms, which makes it extra awesome, IMHO.  It's such an absurd graphic, I just couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 09, 2017, 04:29:12 AM
Quote from: Soup39 on September 09, 2017, 03:12:42 AM
Love it well done.  Where did you source those knobs?

Small Bear carries them.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 09, 2017, 04:29:56 AM
Quote from: playpunk on September 08, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
Now I really want to finish Kim Un Unicorn, the klon  im building for the sweet graphic. :) lovely as always!

I feel that you are now committed to this and await your build report.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: playpunk on September 09, 2017, 06:27:41 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on September 09, 2017, 04:29:56 AM
Quote from: playpunk on September 08, 2017, 05:29:47 PM
Now I really want to finish Kim Un Unicorn, the klon  im building for the sweet graphic. :) lovely as always!

I feel that you are now committed to this and await your build report.

Noted. Printing etch graphic now.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: mrclean77 on September 09, 2017, 06:59:14 AM
HA! It's greatness lies in the fact that it is so disturbing!

I obviously haven't been on TGP much lately bc I used to know all the inside jokes...I think I'm ok w this.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Scruffie on September 09, 2017, 01:28:21 PM
The Human Centaurpede as it were.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: matmosphere on September 09, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on September 09, 2017, 01:28:21 PM
The Human Centaurpede as it were.

😂

Sure the graphic is a little weird. But it's also quite funny.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 09, 2017, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on September 09, 2017, 01:28:21 PM
The Human Centaurpede as it were.

I think that'll be version II.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: midwayfair on September 09, 2017, 09:02:39 PM
I love how the human legs are just completely useless.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 09, 2017, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on September 09, 2017, 09:02:39 PM
I love how the human legs are just completely useless.

And their relative position in the graphic suggests they are well aware of it, too.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: selfdestroyer on September 09, 2017, 10:53:38 PM
I seen this while I was out on my cell phone.. I have looked at it 3 more times since then and it makes me laugh so hard.. my wife is wondering whats wrong with me. I love this.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: EBK on September 10, 2017, 04:21:59 AM
Don't worry. We like your reverse centaur, but this is pretty funny:
(https://iwsmt-content-ok2nbdvvyp8jbrhdp.stackpathdns.com/6220140317191.jpg)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 10, 2017, 04:23:31 AM
Quote from: EBK on September 10, 2017, 04:21:59 AM
Don't worry. We like your reverse centaur, but this is pretty funny:
(https://iwsmt-content-ok2nbdvvyp8jbrhdp.stackpathdns.com/6220140317191.jpg)

Yeah, it made me chuckle, too.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 10, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
In a strange turn of events, Outlaw posted pics on TGP and now a bunch of people want one.  I guess I'm going to do a small batch of them.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: madbean on September 10, 2017, 09:09:59 AM
That's not very surprising, honestly. But...I mean...c'mon. Do the Reverse Centaur.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 10, 2017, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: madbean on September 10, 2017, 09:09:59 AM
That's not very surprising, honestly. But...I mean...c'mon. Do the Reverse Centaur.

They WANT the Reverse Centaur, not a normal Klone build.  Outlaw labeling and all.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: alanp on September 10, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
They SAY they want one. My inner cynic would argue, until they forked over cash.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 10, 2017, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: alanp on September 10, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
They SAY they want one. My inner cynic would argue, until they forked over cash.

That's always a risk.  I always ask for a firm commitment, a real name and email before I start.  I don't accept deposits.  So far, I've not had a single person flake out on me.  It'll happen at some point, but I'd rather risk that than risk messing up my reputation.  I have too many things going on, so I'm not all that fast.  People are significantly more patient when you aren't holding their money.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: devilsnight on September 12, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Love it! You should have covered the board in epoxy before posting your pics though, someone is going to copy it! :)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 04:05:22 AM
Quote from: devilsnight on September 12, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Love it! You should have covered the board in epoxy before posting your pics though, someone is going to copy it! :)

A reverse engineered reverse engineered Centaur?  That could be interesting, biologically speaking.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: EBK on September 13, 2017, 04:32:55 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 04:05:22 AM
Quote from: devilsnight on September 12, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Love it! You should have covered the board in epoxy before posting your pics though, someone is going to copy it! :)

A reverse engineered reverse engineered Centaur?  That could be interesting, biologically speaking.
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Half+horse+half+centaur+sounds+like+the+centaur+taur+_941d55ba5e489008fcf66c51425e7847.jpg)
Yikes!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 04:55:00 AM
Quote from: EBK on September 13, 2017, 04:32:55 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 04:05:22 AM
Quote from: devilsnight on September 12, 2017, 10:00:17 PM
Love it! You should have covered the board in epoxy before posting your pics though, someone is going to copy it! :)

A reverse engineered reverse engineered Centaur?  That could be interesting, biologically speaking.
(https://2static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Half+horse+half+centaur+sounds+like+the+centaur+taur+_941d55ba5e489008fcf66c51425e7847.jpg)
Yikes!

Haha, yikes indeed.

What show is that from again?  I think I watched that with my daughter.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: EBK on September 13, 2017, 05:07:15 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 04:55:00 AM
What show is that from again?  I think I watched that with my daughter.
Gravity Falls, I think.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: LaceSensor on September 13, 2017, 05:17:29 AM
Cool build and graphic.
Whats the deal with "Winch" I dont do TGP much or often
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 05:19:17 AM
Quote from: EBK on September 13, 2017, 05:07:15 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 04:55:00 AM
What show is that from again?  I think I watched that with my daughter.
Gravity Falls, I think.

Yep, that's it.  One of the funnier kids shows in recent years, actually.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on September 13, 2017, 05:21:27 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on September 13, 2017, 05:17:29 AM
Cool build and graphic.
Whats the deal with "Winch" I dont do TGP much or often

Outlaw (the user that inspired this) made numerous references to the importance of winches in multiple threads and it became a running joke associated with him.  Just a bit of silly and fun nonsense.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: juansolo on September 13, 2017, 05:49:25 AM
Awesome, if slightly disturbing!
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: m-Kresol on September 13, 2017, 09:09:13 AM
Quote from: juansolo on September 13, 2017, 05:49:25 AM
Awesome, if slightly disturbing!

True. That should be right up your alley, John. Usually I think that of your builds ;)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:12:09 PM
So, I ended up doing a small run of these.  I've been posting progress pics at TGP, but I figured I'd share them here.  There's a bunch, so I'll do it in multiple posts.

My initial build used a really old layout that I did.  It needed to be updated, so that's what I did.  I also added a switch board to clean up the wiring a bit.

(https://i.imgur.com/cZjfZ7S.jpg)

This enclosure is etched, but the contrast with the trans gold is absolutely terrible.  You can see it from some angles, but it totally disappears from other angles.

(https://i.imgur.com/i3tkgWi.jpg)

Initial test fit was a bit tight, so I had to tweak the drill layout.  Easy fix, at least.

(https://i.imgur.com/LfwbrKI.jpg)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:15:51 PM
Next, drilling the box with the tiny hole saws.  I haven't used my step bit since buying them, and I have a pretty nice Klein step bit.

(https://i.imgur.com/WCQfkB6.jpg)

Time to backfill the etch with ink.  I do this under a microscope with a syringe and an extra fine 30 gauge tip.  Here is what it looks like partially inked.

(https://i.imgur.com/KCRlmxH.jpg)

Here it is fully inked.  Much better looking

(https://i.imgur.com/koka7zY.jpg)

Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: EBK on October 18, 2017, 12:17:17 PM
You were so close to making the board centaur-shaped.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:18:08 PM
Time to start building the boards.  Here they are partially built and displayed on a sturdy piece of anti-static foam.

(https://i.imgur.com/nadsxTr.jpg)

Here's the first verification build.  Fits just fine.

(https://i.imgur.com/CETj77O.jpg)

And they are multiplying:

(https://i.imgur.com/Y7FyRTB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P1pwiTC.jpg)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:19:58 PM
Testing time.  I'm trying to give Cody a run on awesome basement carpeting, but I know I fell short.

(https://i.imgur.com/Pt8GdKp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4D1keiN.jpg)

This is the only proper way to test a Reverse Centaur.  Five of them on in a row (it sounds terrible, btw).

(https://i.imgur.com/kS7ycWh.jpg)

I think that's it.  I've started shipping them off and await responses from everybody.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:20:26 PM
Quote from: EBK on October 18, 2017, 12:17:17 PM
You were so close to making the board centaur-shaped.

Ha!  I didn't even think of that.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: EBK on October 18, 2017, 12:23:01 PM
That chain is so centauripede creepy.... :o
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: cajone5 on October 18, 2017, 12:29:27 PM
Wow -- only now just going through this thread.  Seriously awesome stuff.  Love it.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 18, 2017, 12:51:46 PM
Where are you putting these up for sale? Interested...  ;D
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: m-Kresol on October 18, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
still pretty much the best pedal related joke I've ever seen. Coupled with execution and functionality this is a winner for sure!

Just realized one thing: did you wire it for true bypass? If not, why would you use 3PDT stomps? don't tell me it's because of the reverse engineering..
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 18, 2017, 12:51:46 PM
Where are you putting these up for sale? Interested...  ;D

I wasn't originally planning on making any for sale nor did I do any advertising.  Folks contacted me directly.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 18, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
still pretty much the best pedal related joke I've ever seen. Coupled with execution and functionality this is a winner for sure!

Just realized one thing: did you wire it for true bypass? If not, why would you use 3PDT stomps? don't tell me it's because of the reverse engineering..

I'm only using 2/3 of the switch.  I could've left the left-most column unsoldered but that would've destroyed my psyche from an OCD standpoint.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: jimilee on October 18, 2017, 01:35:05 PM
That's awesome man. I've sold so many, it's just nuts. I kept building them for myself and folks just kept asking about them. Generally I don't build for sale purposes, but everyone is still snowed by the unobtanium factor.


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Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: m-Kresol on October 18, 2017, 01:46:15 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 18, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
still pretty much the best pedal related joke I've ever seen. Coupled with execution and functionality this is a winner for sure!

Just realized one thing: did you wire it for true bypass? If not, why would you use 3PDT stomps? don't tell me it's because of the reverse engineering..

I'm only using 2/3 of the switch.  I could've left the left-most column unsoldered but that would've destroyed my psyche from an OCD standpoint.

I see. I still prefer 2PDT switches for click feeling and sturdiness. It's funny how many of us have (light) OCD when it comes to pedal guts. I think this is part of the reason for all the clean builds these days
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: mrclean77 on October 19, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
Will there ever be a satirical pedal graphic I like more than this one?

Doubt it.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Rockhorst on October 19, 2017, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:15:51 PM
Time to backfill the etch with ink.  I do this under a microscope with a syringe and an extra fine 30 gauge tip.  Here is what it looks like partially inked.
I'm sorry, you do what now :o? Maaaaaan, the dedication...impressive 8)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: pickdropper on October 19, 2017, 01:09:39 PM
Quote from: Rockhorst on October 19, 2017, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 18, 2017, 12:15:51 PM
Time to backfill the etch with ink.  I do this under a microscope with a syringe and an extra fine 30 gauge tip.  Here is what it looks like partially inked.
I'm sorry, you do what now :o? Maaaaaan, the dedication...impressive 8)

While I'm pleased with the results, it's admittedly not my favorite process.
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: Leevibe on October 19, 2017, 08:00:52 PM
Late to the party on this. Funniest pedal graphic I remember ever seeing. Then, the build quality is over the top, then making a production run out of it. The ink process is so impressive. I can't believe they are so consistent. I think you may have just made something highly collectible. Would that be ironic?
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: EBK on October 19, 2017, 08:32:48 PM
I bet that one with the black knobs sounds darker than the ones with oxblood knobs.  ;)
Title: Re: Reverse Engineered Centaur
Post by: playpunk on October 20, 2017, 07:28:04 AM
These are truly excellent.