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Title: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Yahoo67 on December 01, 2017, 10:03:18 AM
Just missed the black friday sale but noticed in the annoucement section that they plan to do 25 new projects in 2018 :/ i can already feel my futur wallet getting ligther

https://aionelectronics.com/blog/category/announcements/
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: sonnyboy27 on December 01, 2017, 11:53:17 AM
If he makes some with top mount jack instructions I'm gonna be very poor. I've built two of his klons, the morning glory, prince of tone, and I have a Nobels that I need a couple more parts for, and something else I can't think of.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on December 04, 2017, 04:40:14 PM
Just missed the black friday sale but noticed in the annoucement section that they plan to do 25 new projects in 2018 :/ i can already feel my futur wallet getting ligther

I've been trying to avoid setting future expectations after the Blueshift was delayed by nearly a year, but I feel pretty good about this one. I've got 12 of them fully designed already with prototype boards on my desk here, and for the rest, I'll choose from a to-do list of several dozen more that I've already decided to do at some point - so I feel pretty good about it this time around :) 2018 will be a lot of fun!

If he makes some with top mount jack instructions I'm gonna be very poor. I've built two of his klons, the morning glory, prince of tone, and I have a Nobels that I need a couple more parts for, and something else I can't think of.

I've tended to subscribe to the Boss/Ibanez/EHX Nano aesthetic of power on top, jacks on the side, but I have had a heck of a lot of people ask about top jacks, so I've got it on my list to do some engineering work in the next couple weeks to see what it would take to pull off, and whether it can be done with existing projects or if new layouts would be required.

Is it more of a space efficiency consideration, or an aesthetic/consistency one? I do understand that you can get a little more pedalboard space out of a 125B with top jacks than a 1590B with side jacks, even with pancake-style patch cables. But I always thought BYOC's pedals were a little rough on the eyes for some reason... although maybe it's just the size of knobs they come with that don't balance well with the larger 125B enclosure size.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on December 04, 2017, 10:34:22 PM
So.... any non-specific hints as to what sort of projects we get to look forward to over the next year?
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Muadzin on December 05, 2017, 07:04:20 AM
I've tended to subscribe to the Boss/Ibanez/EHX Nano aesthetic of power on top, jacks on the side, but I have had a heck of a lot of people ask about top jacks, so I've got it on my list to do some engineering work in the next couple weeks to see what it would take to pull off, and whether it can be done with existing projects or if new layouts would be required.

Personally I'm of the opinion that people continue to use side mounts, because that's the way its always done. I started out like that too, building those early all wired BYOC pedals. Then I branched out into sourcing my own and continued to do it that way, because that's how I had learned it. But I had built a couple of GGG pedals as well and I found the top mounts to be way more pedal board efficient. So one day I realized, why do I even do side mounts any more if you like top mounts better. Haven't looked back since. It's SO much more efficient.

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Is it more of a space efficiency consideration, or an aesthetic/consistency one? I do understand that you can get a little more pedalboard space out of a 125B with top jacks than a 1590B with side jacks, even with pancake-style patch cables. But I always thought BYOC's pedals were a little rough on the eyes for some reason... although maybe it's just the size of knobs they come with that don't balance well with the larger 125B enclosure size.

It's not a question ofa little space efficiency, it opens up a LOT of space efficiency. I was able to cram more pedals on my boards using top mounts, and it was always the Boss and EHX style side mounts which gave me headaches on how to fit them on my boards. I for the life just cannoth understand why people think that a 1590B eats up less pedal board real estate then a 125B, since the former has to use side mounts (unless you have l33t drilling skills and tiny jacks), while the latter is so easy to equip with top mounts. So many people design their PCB layouts for sidemounts, which makes it hard for me to use them in my builds as I can't use them with board mounted pots to fit with my top mount OCD (it's an OCD, I fully admit it). Especially those boards where you mount the pots to the top.  Methinks the easiest way to fix this would be to make it so so you can flip the orientation of board mounted pots around. Like the ability to install a jumper and cut a trace so lug 1 becomes 3 and reverse.

Another problem with 1590B designed boards with board mounted pots is that they tend to be bunched together a little closer then on a 125B designed board. Which means it becomes a little harder to use large knobs. I like to use Marshall style knobs on dirt pedal and you just cannot fit three of those on a row with pots mounted to a 1590B board. We
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: cajone5 on December 05, 2017, 08:14:40 AM
If he makes some with top mount jack instructions I'm gonna be very poor. I've built two of his klons, the morning glory, prince of tone, and I have a Nobels that I need a couple more parts for, and something else I can't think of.

I've tended to subscribe to the Boss/Ibanez/EHX Nano aesthetic of power on top, jacks on the side, but I have had a heck of a lot of people ask about top jacks, so I've got it on my list to do some engineering work in the next couple weeks to see what it would take to pull off, and whether it can be done with existing projects or if new layouts would be required.

Is it more of a space efficiency consideration, or an aesthetic/consistency one? I do understand that you can get a little more pedalboard space out of a 125B with top jacks than a 1590B with side jacks, even with pancake-style patch cables. But I always thought BYOC's pedals were a little rough on the eyes for some reason... although maybe it's just the size of knobs they come with that don't balance well with the larger 125B enclosure size.

I always prefer top jacks.  I think the main reason is that I can tightly space pedals and there's no need to stagger them so the jacks don't interfere.  They can be placed in whatever my desired layout (in rows anyway) and jack location is a non-issue.  In addition, you can lay everything out and then wire up instead of having to do the two tasks together since the jacks are squeezed between things.  I guess If compactness was a non-issue, jack location would as well, but when trying to squeeze everything into a limited space in the optimum way, top jacks (everywhere) really do make that job a lot easier.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: sonnyboy27 on December 05, 2017, 09:24:21 AM
If he makes some with top mount jack instructions I'm gonna be very poor. I've built two of his klons, the morning glory, prince of tone, and I have a Nobels that I need a couple more parts for, and something else I can't think of.

I've tended to subscribe to the Boss/Ibanez/EHX Nano aesthetic of power on top, jacks on the side, but I have had a heck of a lot of people ask about top jacks, so I've got it on my list to do some engineering work in the next couple weeks to see what it would take to pull off, and whether it can be done with existing projects or if new layouts would be required.

Is it more of a space efficiency consideration, or an aesthetic/consistency one? I do understand that you can get a little more pedalboard space out of a 125B with top jacks than a 1590B with side jacks, even with pancake-style patch cables. But I always thought BYOC's pedals were a little rough on the eyes for some reason... although maybe it's just the size of knobs they come with that don't balance well with the larger 125B enclosure size.

It's a bit of both. I like the way that top mount jacks work for my board. It opens up a lot of space for me and I like the look since I don't have to offset pedals from each other. For your standard boards I've actually been able to top mount them in a 125B without any trouble. I've done that with your Klon board, the Morning Glory, and the Prince of Tone (I know, same board). I just had to move the board slightly further down in the enclosure. Since I don't use batteries it's not an issue at all. I do agree with you on the BYOC thing though. I've always used larger knobs to compensate for the empty space and that's worked for me personally.

Honestly, I love the fact that your boards all fit to a specific design principle. I have a couple of boards of yours that I've just done as side mount because they're designed so well for that. I'm just trying to make a specific board all top mount. But your layouts are incredible look amazing IMO.

If you are looking at top mounting, then I'd talk to BuGG. His stuff is designed for top mount in a 125B for the most part. His stuff just isn't quite as modular/mod friendly as your projects.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: WormBoy on December 05, 2017, 09:36:37 AM
After discovering the extremely flat EBS patch cables, I am very happy to do side mounts with almost all of my builds. Added bonus is that you have shorter input-output wires in bypass modes, and the wires don't cross the board, so less chance of noise creeping in. With top mounts in a 125B, I might be able to put them 1 cm closer together, max, but for me that's a non-issue. Looking forward to those new projects!
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: drog_trog on March 08, 2018, 12:23:50 PM
Where are the new projects at? 25 this year?...were in March now Kev get a shift on!  :)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on March 09, 2018, 11:01:46 AM
Where are the new projects at? 25 this year?...were in March now Kev get a shift on!  :)

The Chinese new year always throws things off - the whole country is shut down for basically all of February which puts a damper on prototyping :) But I just received production quantities of 3 new ones, just need to finish up the documentation for them before they go out.

Still very much on track for the year - I'm up to around 20 designed now plus several updated versions of existing projects... just need to attack the prototyping queue and finish them up.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: drog_trog on June 12, 2018, 03:32:15 AM
yo Kevin, how are your projects coming on?
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on June 12, 2018, 07:48:37 AM
yo Kevin, how are your projects coming on?

Maybe a bit of a preview is in order! The reason it's been 6 months with only a couple projects released so far is that back in January or February I had a bit of an epiphany as I was thinking about how I should be designing projects going forward. As a result of this epiphany I decided to redo the new ones that I was prototyping—all 1590B—in favor of a completely new PCB format with (wait for it) top mounted jacks in a 125B. It's more than just that, though. It's an entire system with a unified set of drill templates, consistency in layout/design rules and component choice, as well as some other secret special stuff that I'll talk about in a few weeks.

As of today I have my 8 most popular projects redesigned in this new format, as well as 6 new ones. I had to do a whole lot of them before I was comfortable releasing any of them, just to make sure my design rules were sustainable and that it was "out of beta" in the first release, because I'm locking myself into it for the most part.

I'll have a big release announcement around July 4th. They won't all be ready by then, but the ones that aren't ready at that time should follow within a month.

I'm still planning on keeping all of the current 1590B-based projects in stock for the foreseeable future, as long as they continue to sell. But many of the projects will now have 125B variants, some with different features. For now I am working my way down the sales ranking, top to bottom, and the plan is to redo the top 50-70% of existing projects.

There is much more to be announced about what I've been up to and what's coming - this is just the tip of the iceberg - but I figured I owe some sort of explanation since I built up some hype at the end of 2017 and haven't yet delivered on it!

If he makes some with top mount jack instructions I'm gonna be very poor. I've built two of his klons, the morning glory, prince of tone, and I have a Nobels that I need a couple more parts for, and something else I can't think of.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: AllenM on June 12, 2018, 09:50:18 AM
Thanks for the update and looking forward to your new designs! Can't wait to see the top mount jack designs!!

AllenM
Madtone
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: drog_trog on June 12, 2018, 09:52:25 AM
I understand, I am the same with stuff I do, the PCB and layout in the enclosure have to be spot on., a bit OCD.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: playpunk on June 12, 2018, 12:21:12 PM
Looking forward to the option for board mounted relay bypass.

:)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on June 12, 2018, 01:10:42 PM
Looking forward to the option for board mounted relay bypass.

:)

The standard soft-touch AMZ/Coda variety?
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: bsoncini on June 12, 2018, 01:15:54 PM
I might be in the minority here but I kinda prefer 1590b with side mount jacks. My feet are too big to have so many pedals tightly packed especially when I'm busy playing a show. (I hate 1590a even more)

Will they still fit in 1590b's? Especially now that I recently noticed the pcbs are available from musikding
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: playpunk on June 12, 2018, 01:20:40 PM
Looking forward to the option for board mounted relay bypass.

:)

The standard soft-touch AMZ/Coda variety?

That would be seriously awesome. I just used relay bypass in a pedal for the first time and it rules. Silent, etc. It would increase reliability and would still be flexible for multi builds.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on June 12, 2018, 02:01:05 PM
I might be in the majority here but I kinda prefer 1590b with side mount jacks. My feet are too big to have so many pedals tightly packed especially when in busy playing a show. (I hate 1590a even more)

Will they still fit in 1590b's? Especially now that I recently noticed the pcbs are available from musikding

125B is larger than 1590B... are you thinking of the 1590G? That's the one that's smaller than the 1590B. These are all going to be slightly larger than the current 1590B ones, but with top mounted jacks they actually come out to be more space-efficient than the 1590B. For most of the projects in this new format, you could forego the battery and use side-mounted jacks though if that's your preference.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: bsoncini on June 12, 2018, 03:32:28 PM
I might be in the majority here but I kinda prefer 1590b with side mount jacks. My feet are too big to have so many pedals tightly packed especially when in busy playing a show. (I hate 1590a even more)

Will they still fit in 1590b's? Especially now that I recently noticed the pcbs are available from musikding

125B is larger than 1590B... are you thinking of the 1590G? That's the one that's smaller than the 1590B. These are all going to be slightly larger than the current 1590B ones, but with top mounted jacks they actually come out to be more space-efficient than the 1590B. For most of the projects in this new format, you could forego the battery and use side-mounted jacks though if that's your preference.

Oops. Said majority meant minority. No I meant 1590b with side mounted jacks. As in the smaller one but with side mounted jacks they take up a bit more room than a 125b with top mounted jacks.  The enclosures are cheaper too.  Maybe im just too clumsy with too big of feet to precisely aim my feet while playing guitar with 15 tightly packed pedals. Looks good for an Instagram photo though.

But you are right. Most other pedals I've built that are made for top mounted jacks in 125b I've put side mounted jacks in.

It probably wouldn't be a problem if all the pedals I have built weren't side mount. But it's annoying hooking a side mount pedal to a top mounted one with the small jumpers. Not to mention most pedals in the history of pedals have side jacks except for recent boutique pedals.  So maybe it is just habit.

I know you don't do many modulation pedals bit I always wonder how the top mount guys run their wires around Lfo's and such When there isn't input/output wires on the top.

Not trying to criticize btw. Just feel the top mounted people are much more vocal.  Anyway dont wanna derail this. Back on topic. If you put out a pedal I want to build I will still build it.
Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to see what you come out with. 
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Space Monkey on June 13, 2018, 01:56:56 AM
125b with top mount jacks is great.  8)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 03, 2018, 11:49:39 PM
You absolute madman, you made an HM-2 board. Time to break out the 20$ Crate amp and shred....
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Zigcat on July 04, 2018, 12:35:55 AM
He just released some of the 125b boards. They look cery nice and include a bypass breakoff board. Maybe I need an HM-2...
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Zigcat on July 04, 2018, 12:36:38 AM
Oh yeah, there's a sale too.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on July 04, 2018, 08:46:00 AM
Yep, 20% off everything through the weekend, and I ended up getting 6 new ones done in time for the sale. I'm really proud of the HM-2, and the updated Refractor (Centaur) should turn some heads since it's the first DIY project to correctly implement the buffer <-> true bypass switch from the KTR. Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: oip on July 04, 2018, 05:21:08 PM
just got the email last night, awesome stuff!  and yeah.. been waiting for the HM-2.  i have zero need for it but also a pressing need for it.  will grab the refractor as well i think.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Rockhorst on July 04, 2018, 05:58:55 PM
I'm really proud of the HM-2

If you want to boost your sales to crazy amounts...just mention David Gilmour using the pedal in the 80s and you can start living of the interest of your profits ;)

(p.s. I send you two PMs a while ago)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 04, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
The HM-2 is wonderfully awkward, I love the stupid thing.

Contemplating modifying one. The math puts the gyrator peaks at about 87 Hz, 959 Hz, and 1279 Hz. Those last two overlap one another quite a bit, and are tied together on the same "Hi" pot. Playing with the gyrator values to put the middle peak around 500hz (and adjusting the high band to around 1150 to cover the ground lost) would give one the ability to tame the ridiculous mid-scoop the pedal has.

One could also alter the Distortion pot scheme to a set up similar to that on the HM-3 (short pins 2-3) or even just change the values a little (like the FX56 did) to deal with the impedance ratios, just to give the pot some actual usefulness beyond "on" and "off".

Of course, these would be somewhat intelligent, which is the exact opposite of what the pedal is supposed to be...
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: drog_trog on July 05, 2018, 01:56:37 AM
i've never tried the HM-2,  i was going to order the grind customs Helvete project but never got around to it.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 05, 2018, 02:20:36 AM
i've never tried the HM-2,  i was going to order the grind customs Helvete project but never got around to it.

Its fun, in its own way. Use something with mid-powered humbuckers (the Swedes these days swear by Gibsons but the pedal destroys all tonal definition so all you need is fairly quiet with decent output) and the cheapest amp you can lay hands on. Grow your hair out and shred like its 1990.

The album that made it famous used a dirt cheap Ibanez (X-series I think? Mid-80s explorer and flying V ~clones) with low tier EMGs, running into the HM-2 (or DS-1 for the middle channel) into a 40W Peavey 1x12 combo. Same sorta set-up any high school metal head can afford. Hell, even today 30 years after the fact you can find all the parts OTHER THAN THE HM-2 for next to nothing on Reverb or Ebay. Only the pedal has seen any sort of price inflation.

But the pedal was decided to be the Mojo factor, and as such has become a collectors item.

It is ridiculous and stupid, but can be fun to tool around with. Seeing people try to fit into a rig with 5k$ Gibsons and a wall of Marshals and getting that "magic" tone just makes me giggle. In all honesty its a "bad" design from the Boss engineers, and could have been EASILY improved to make it usable in more contexts, but there you go.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Muadzin on July 05, 2018, 07:31:48 AM
Yep, 20% off everything through the weekend, and I ended up getting 6 new ones done in time for the sale. I'm really proud of the HM-2, and the updated Refractor (Centaur) should turn some heads since it's the first DIY project to correctly implement the buffer <-> true bypass switch from the KTR. Enjoy :)

Isn't the Klon buffer basically the whole point of the damn pedal? Without it you're basically left with yet another overdrive pedal.

Its fun, in its own way. Use something with mid-powered humbuckers (the Swedes these days swear by Gibsons but the pedal destroys all tonal definition so all you need is fairly quiet with decent output) and the cheapest amp you can lay hands on. Grow your hair out and shred like its 1990.

There was shredding in the 90's?  :o

I always thought that the 90's was the decade that killed off the lead guitar player. And even bands that still had them dialed it down significantly.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 05, 2018, 07:41:26 AM
Its fun, in its own way. Use something with mid-powered humbuckers (the Swedes these days swear by Gibsons but the pedal destroys all tonal definition so all you need is fairly quiet with decent output) and the cheapest amp you can lay hands on. Grow your hair out and shred like its 1990.

There was shredding in the 90's?  :o

I always thought that the 90's was the decade that killed off the lead guitar player. And even bands that still had them dialed it down significantly.

Eh, 1990 wasn't REALLY the 90's yet. It was 1989 part-2. And this is Swedish Death Metal we're talking about, Nirvana's wave of destruction couldn't really hurt them, down in the depths of whatever glacier they were hiding under.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: AllenM on July 05, 2018, 10:07:41 AM
Shout out to Aion on the new 125b projects - love the layouts, features and the new documentation - the addition of the spreadsheet BOMs - ordered 10 PCBs and I cant wait to see what else you add to this series!

**also like that the BOM list currently available parts for items that are hard to find**

AllenM / MadTone fx
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Muadzin on July 05, 2018, 02:31:14 PM
Eh, 1990 wasn't REALLY the 90's yet. It was 1989 part-2. And this is Swedish Death Metal we're talking about, Nirvana's wave of destruction couldn't really hurt them, down in the depths of whatever glacier they were hiding under.

If Nirvana could destroy a whole genre and end the reign of shredders, doesn't that mean that its music kicked more ass then all death metal bands combined?  :P ;D
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Rockhorst on July 05, 2018, 03:44:24 PM
Eh, 1990 wasn't REALLY the 90's yet. It was 1989 part-2. And this is Swedish Death Metal we're talking about, Nirvana's wave of destruction couldn't really hurt them, down in the depths of whatever glacier they were hiding under.

If Nirvana could destroy a whole genre and end the reign of shredders, doesn't that mean that its music kicked more ass then all death metal bands combined?  :P ;D
The first wave of Swedish death (say, Entombed) coincided with Nirvana, but the second wave (starting with At The Gates) peaked POST Nirvana, so no ;) Also, Nevermind came out in '91, but so did Black Album, Painkiller, Rust in Peace...great metal year.

What the difference between the first and second wave? First wave: HM-2 into a Peavy Bandit (no, not just any cheap amp, that one). Second Wave: HM-2 into a Metalzone into a Bandit...Yes, really...The ultimate tone killing sick 2-in-1 someone need to build: an HM-2 with a MT-2 in one box.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 05, 2018, 04:44:12 PM
The first wave of Swedish death (say, Entombed) coincided with Nirvana, but the second wave (starting with At The Gates) peaked POST Nirvana, so no ;) Also, Nevermind came out in '91, but so did Black Album, Painkiller, Rust in Peace...great metal year.

What the difference between the first and second wave? First wave: HM-2 into a Peavy Bandit (no, not just any cheap amp, that one). Second Wave: HM-2 into a Metalzone into a Bandit...Yes, really...The ultimate tone killing sick 2-in-1 someone need to build: an HM-2 with a MT-2 in one box.

"Left Hand Path" was recorded using a Peavey Studio Pro 40W. It broke sometime between the first and second albums, when they started using the Bandit. (I have no idea if it would honestly make any difference beyond mojo, I'm not Swedish enough to tell)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Rockhorst on July 06, 2018, 04:13:03 AM
The first wave of Swedish death (say, Entombed) coincided with Nirvana, but the second wave (starting with At The Gates) peaked POST Nirvana, so no ;) Also, Nevermind came out in '91, but so did Black Album, Painkiller, Rust in Peace...great metal year.

What the difference between the first and second wave? First wave: HM-2 into a Peavy Bandit (no, not just any cheap amp, that one). Second Wave: HM-2 into a Metalzone into a Bandit...Yes, really...The ultimate tone killing sick 2-in-1 someone need to build: an HM-2 with a MT-2 in one box.

"Left Hand Path" was recorded using a Peavey Studio Pro 40W. It broke sometime between the first and second albums, when they started using the Bandit. (I have no idea if it would honestly make any difference beyond mojo, I'm not Swedish enough to tell)
Glad to see I'm not the only Swedish metal nerd here (not Swedish either, talking about the genre). The Bandit stayed in use though, as I've got the story from At The Gates' Slaughter of the Soul if I'm not mistaken.

In Flames stepped up the game and went with 5150s once their budget allowed.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 06, 2018, 12:06:56 PM
The ultimate tone killing sick 2-in-1 someone need to build: an HM-2 with a MT-2 in one box.

Can I just say, I'm actually a little shocked that the MT-2 has so little DIY presence online. I can find 1 single-sided transfer (which apparently has errors) and that's it. No vero layouts, no OSHPark attempts, just this glorious relic of webdesign's past: http://web.tiscali.it/boxsmt2clone2005home/index.htm

I mean, I know its a terrible pedal you can pickup for 20$ on ebay, but its not like the DS-1 is magnificent and you can find a dozen versions of it's board. Cloner's whims are fascinating!
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: vinylkey on July 06, 2018, 01:36:19 PM
I need to get myself an Aion board to build...

Those new 125b projects look amazing. Easily the best documentation for effect PCBs that I've seen around.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Aleph Null on July 06, 2018, 05:24:29 PM
125Bs look awesome. I'm definitely in the top-mount-jack camp.

Also, those have to be some of the most detailed drill templates I've ever seen! Should make designing graphics a breeze.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: Muadzin on July 09, 2018, 05:13:00 AM
The first wave of Swedish death (say, Entombed) coincided with Nirvana, but the second wave (starting with At The Gates) peaked POST Nirvana, so no ;) Also, Nevermind came out in '91, but so did Black Album, Painkiller, Rust in Peace...great metal year.

The fall is usually always preceded by a peak first.

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What the difference between the first and second wave? First wave: HM-2 into a Peavy Bandit (no, not just any cheap amp, that one). Second Wave: HM-2 into a Metalzone into a Bandit...Yes, really...The ultimate tone killing sick 2-in-1 someone need to build: an HM-2 with a MT-2 in one box.

Never heard of any of those bands. Probably because I don't listen to anything that has any grunting, if there's no singing it's just noise to me. And probably also because I was more busy listening to Nirvana at that time.  :P

Seriously though, I find Nevermind a far heavier album then almost every extreme metal album. Individually every metal song will kick Teen Spirit's ass. Painkiller, to name one, is infinitely heavier. But overall Nirvana kicks metal's ass. Because you can't stay full bore heavy, angry and aggressive all the time. Dynamics are not a dirty word and Nevermind has dynamics in abundance. Which is why each time Kurt kicks in the fuzz he sounds heavier then anything coming from Sweden around that time.

I mean, I know its a terrible pedal you can pickup for 20$ on ebay, but its not like the DS-1 is magnificent and you can find a dozen versions of it's board. Cloner's whims are fascinating!

I reckon its because the DS-1 is at least usable stock and can shine when being modded. Plus it has this whole MIJ versions were better then MIT thing going. Whereas the MT just sound awful in almost every setting stock and only becomes usable when modded. But you're right, why clone a pedal that you can pickup for basically nothing as well and then mod into something good just as easy, if not more so?
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 09, 2018, 05:55:05 AM
Must say, though, I'm tempted to attempt a HM-2-into-MT-2 board design after I finish this current distortion i'm working on. I'll call it "Bad meets Worse" and just laugh at it. Just need to figure out where to source dual-gang 50k rev.log pots from.....
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: stringsthings on July 09, 2018, 11:42:45 PM
Aion, any updates on the Deluxe BMP?
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on July 10, 2018, 03:16:59 PM
Aion, any updates on the Deluxe BMP?

That was one of the ones I designed right before I decided to change over to the 125B designs so I ended up scrapping the one that was in progress. I originally did it for a 1590BB but I think I can squeeze it into a 125B. I'm planning on this one coming out this fall, before or around Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: stringsthings on July 10, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
I'm planning on this one coming out this fall, before or around Thanksgiving.

Most excellent!  Way back in the late 70's, I owned a brand new Deluxe BMP.  So I'm really excited
about building a clone.   The BMP side is relatively easy.  I haven't been able to clone the Soul Preacher side.
By most standards, it's an awful compressor.  Noisy and super squishy.  The opposite of transparent.
But since I'm familiar with the sound, I like it.  :)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 12, 2018, 06:49:14 PM
My HM-2 board was waiting for me in my mailbox today, excellent. Time to get soldering! ....well, once it stops storming and I can trust the power to stay on for 5 minutes at a time, anyway. Hooray desert monsoons.
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: aion on July 12, 2018, 08:47:17 PM
My HM-2 board was waiting for me in my mailbox today, excellent. Time to get soldering! ....well, once it stops storming and I can trust the power to stay on for 5 minutes at a time, anyway. Hooray desert monsoons.

Let me know how much you hate it! ;)
Title: Re: Aion will have 25 new projects in 2018
Post by: somnif on July 12, 2018, 11:42:58 PM
Let me know how much you hate it! ;)

Bah! Its a ridiculous tone-destroying chainsaw of a pedal, but its fun to screw around with.

I'm a guy who mostly plays shoe-gazey dream-pop'y aetheral stuff, layers of delays and reverbs and cello bows.... but a friend of mine had an HM-2 in high school and I fully admit to just loving the occasional bit of chugga chugga grinding.  ;D