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Title: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 07, 2018, 06:11:08 AM
I can't remember how long ago Alan sent us the boards for this... The PCBs has been built for about 6 months (Cleggy on the case for that). Finally I've got around to measuring up a template and squeezing it into a 1590XX.

What can I say, it's a Lovetone and they're very much their own effects :) It's also not finished yet. We've tested the stereo, the loop (reverse delay in the loop is awesome/bonkers), need to test the CV and maybe give it a final bias to make sure it's spot on.

I was more interested in it working properly inside than making it pretty... I'd also re-do the decal if I was doing it again as it's a tad hard to see.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: alanp on July 07, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Sweet 8) :)
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 07, 2018, 01:46:22 PM
I've tidied up the decal for it a lot. The new one on a coloured box (Orange would work nice) would look cool as. But, I ain't taking that apart now and drilling another!

Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: cooder on July 07, 2018, 03:36:23 PM
Pretty epic!
And since it doesn't have a name you don't need to see the label too well anyway... ::)
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: jubal81 on July 07, 2018, 03:45:44 PM
What a monster! Brilliant work - almost tempting me to give that a go ...
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: Invertiguy on July 07, 2018, 11:31:40 PM
Wow, that thing is a beast, and yet the wiring is so clean even with all those jacks!! VERY nicely done.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: nzCdog on July 07, 2018, 11:38:09 PM
Hotness!  Most impressive build sir  8)
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: alanp on July 07, 2018, 11:48:54 PM
By the way, make sure to have a good play with it in self-oscillation mode, that's a lot of fun!
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 07, 2018, 11:55:53 PM
It does some very odd stuff (Lovetone, to be expected), but the favourite for me has to be the reverse delay in the loop, it's oddness to a new level as every other repeat is backwards... Creates a trippy as hell effect as they sort of fade into each other.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: stringsthings on July 08, 2018, 02:24:35 AM
Looks nice.  Is it necessary to use shielded wire for this build?
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: alanp on July 08, 2018, 02:30:00 AM
When the wires are going right on top of the circuit boards (with all those lovely LFO and clock signals), yeah, it's a good idea. You'll notice that John didn't bother shielding the wires going around the edges.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 08, 2018, 04:57:01 AM
Yep, what he said. That's the loop wiring so signal back and forward right over the top of the board. The chances of clock noise is very high there, so we didn't take any chances. The in and outs are routed well away from the boards so we didn't bother there.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: stringsthings on July 08, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: juansolo on July 08, 2018, 04:57:01 AM
Yep, what he said. That's the loop wiring so signal back and forward right over the top of the board. The chances of clock noise is very high there, so we didn't take any chances. The in and outs are routed well away from the boards so we didn't bother there.

Makes perfect sense.  That's an excellent job with the shielded wire.  I tend to avoid it unless really needed.
For me, it's a PITA. 
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 08, 2018, 10:50:52 PM
Same.

The original pedal shields the line in, but in Alan's layout and how it's gone in this box, none of it is anywhere near the clock, so we didn't bother. I suspect in the original pedal it was however if it was necessary.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 09, 2018, 02:43:07 AM
Lovely

You got the colour really a nice match to the real one, too.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: PMowdes2 on July 09, 2018, 02:46:27 AM

Looking good Juan.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: gordo on July 09, 2018, 04:33:40 AM
I've got the single sided, Keefe etched, version that I really need to man-up and finish.  I've become very spoiled/lazy with board mounted pots and switches and this has neither....
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: PMowdes2 on July 09, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
I just placed an order for these, gonna be a long wait for them to be fab'd

(https://s22.postimg.cc/5dqnin0kh/lt_flange.png)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/3yp2u4241/lt_flange_db.png)
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: midwayfair on July 09, 2018, 08:36:21 AM
Quote from: juansolo on July 07, 2018, 06:11:08 AM
I was more interested in it working properly inside than making it pretty...

A true AlanP project, then.

I keed, I keed.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: selfdestroyer on July 09, 2018, 09:06:29 AM
Came out great John.. but, it reminds me I have one populated that needs boxing.. ugh..

I need to get off my ass and start building again. lol

Cody
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: diablochris6 on July 09, 2018, 12:01:12 PM
Looks great. I really enjoy mine but never got around to decorating or labelling the enclosure so I don't always remember what all the knobs do!
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 09, 2018, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on July 09, 2018, 09:06:29 AM
Came out great John.. but, it reminds me I have one populated that needs boxing.. ugh..

I need to get off my ass and start building again. lol

Cody

These last few builds have been in the works for months, if not years! It's not good...
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 10, 2018, 01:51:47 AM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on July 09, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
I just placed an order for these, gonna be a long wait for them to be fab'd

(https://s22.postimg.cc/5dqnin0kh/lt_flange.png)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/3yp2u4241/lt_flange_db.png)

Pretty mental looking board. Kudos.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: danielzink on July 10, 2018, 09:33:47 AM
sub'd

8)
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 10, 2018, 01:21:52 PM
Hey John.

Epic build but I must ask... How is the Time Out jack working out for you? Every build that I have done demanded that the Sleeve of the Time Out jack had to be connected to the ground bar on the other jacks. If I just wired it like the schematic (and like you have it in your pic), I would always get a horrible oscillation from the Time Out. Of course, this was only in stereo mode as the Space Out/Mono jack combines the two effects.

Have you seen this with your build as well?
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 11, 2018, 01:37:23 AM
The switched sleeve is connected to the common ground when it's not got a plug in there. When there is, it has it's own ground, the yellow wire on mine (I think using the transformer for isolation, guessing though, I'd have to look at the schematic). But if you read the manual to the original FWNN, there can be all sorts of problems with the general oddness of the whole thing with different setups. All I can say is that with what we tried it with, an MJW (Marshall 18W-a-like) and a Ampeg (Fender brownface deluxe I think...?) it was ok and behaved how we thought it should.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 11, 2018, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: juansolo on July 11, 2018, 01:37:23 AM
The switched sleeve is connected to the common ground when it's not got a plug in there. When there is, it has it's own ground, the yellow wire on mine (I think using the transformer for isolation, guessing though, I'd have to look at the schematic). But if you read the manual to the original FWNN, there can be all sorts of problems with the general oddness of the whole thing with different setups. All I can say is that with what we tried it with, an MJW (Marshall 18W-a-like) and a Ampeg (Fender brownface deluxe I think...?) it was ok and behaved how we thought it should.

I just remember building mine and using them in stereo to 2 different amps and I would only get squeel out of the Time Out jack. I tried everything I could think of (swap amps, different instruments, different outlets for each amp, power conditioners, etc.) and with every build I would get the squeel from Time Out. Only thing that would get rid of it was to ground the Time Out jack Sleeve (along with it's respective wire.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: Betty Wont on July 11, 2018, 01:37:10 PM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on July 09, 2018, 07:42:33 AM
I just placed an order for these, gonna be a long wait for them to be fab'd

(https://s22.postimg.cc/5dqnin0kh/lt_flange.png)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/3yp2u4241/lt_flange_db.png)
Nice!! I'm in!
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: juansolo on July 22, 2018, 07:03:47 AM
Wasn't happy with the decal so stripped it and re-decaled it. That wasn't fun, but much happier with it now.

Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: stringsthings on July 23, 2018, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: juansolo on July 22, 2018, 07:03:47 AM
Wasn't happy with the decal so stripped it and re-decaled it. That wasn't fun, but much happier with it now.

That looks real nice!

Those "?"s remind me of the riddler.
Title: Re: NoNameFlange. Finally!
Post by: cooder on July 23, 2018, 11:06:16 PM
That looks indeed much more snappy!