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Projects => Tech Help - Projects Page => Topic started by: KMRO on April 13, 2019, 09:53:16 AM

Title: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: KMRO on April 13, 2019, 09:53:16 AM
I finished the honeydripper and I'm struggling. 

The LED comes on, but no sound through pedal either with the footswitch engaged or not.

Here are some photos:
https://imgur.com/m0bfxoB
https://imgur.com/eYzA8Lz
https://imgur.com/GGkm952
https://imgur.com/kBEblsl

I'm curious if I wired the input/output jacks incorrectly?  Is Jack 1 input?  I've been using a stereo jack for inputs.  Do I need to do something with the ring connection?

Did I miss a ground opportunity?  I've been running a wire from the output sleeve to the enclosure (visible in pic 1). 

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: KMRO on April 14, 2019, 05:29:40 PM
Examined this pretty closely today.  Went over every soldering joint with a magnifying glass and carefully re-did everything that seemed suspect.  I also didn't feel that confident with the ground, so I drilled a hole and ran a bolt through the side of the enclosure.  Now I'm grounding jack 2 with a solid connection.  Still get LED when I hit the switch, but no sound. 

I guess that is not totally true, I get a very quiet sound that changes subtly when the 4-way switch is turned.  Which makes me think that there is something simple afoot. 
Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: KMRO on April 21, 2019, 10:21:40 PM
I continue to try to trouble shoot this project, but I'm planning on buying another copy of the PCB and starting again.  This was a good chance to learn how to use the multimeter. 

Power at DC plug: 9.45
Ground at board: 0
9v at board: 9.45

Below are my IC readings.  If any of the reading seemed divergent from the expected readings in the build guide, I noted the expected reading in parentheses. 
IC1: 4558
1 - 5.1
2 - 5.1
3 - 5.1
4 - 0
5 - 5.1
6 - 5.1
7 - 5.1
8 - 17.36

IC 2:LM324
1 - 5.1
2 - 5.1
3 - 5.1
4 - 17.3
5 - 5.1
6 - 5.1
7 - 5.1
8 - 5.3
9 - 5.1
10 - 5.1
11 - 0
12 -5.1
13 - 5.1
14 - 5.27

IC 3: LM324
1 - 5.1
2 - 5.1
3 - 5.1
4 - 17.4
5 - 4.94
6 - 5.1
7 - 4.8 (divergent 38mV)
8 - .57 (divergent 5.25)
9 - 2.83
10 - 2.83
11 - 0
12 - 2.83
13 - 2.83
14 - 2.4 (divergent 35 mV)

IC4: 13700
1 - .57 (divergent 35mV)
2 - 1.39
3 - 5.1
4 - 5.1
5 - 5.1
6 - 0
7 - .12
8 - 2.17
9 skip
10 skip
11 5.1 (divergent 17.52)
12 - 5.1
13 - 5.1
14 - 17.3
15 - skip
16 2.2 (divergent .44)

IC5: 1054
1 - 2.3
2 - 4.9
3 - 0
4 - 0 (divergent 28 mV)
5 - 9.1 (divergent 0)
6 - 1.3 (divergent 2.43)
7 - 2.4
8 - 0 (divergent 9.18)

Thanks for the consideration. 
Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: KMRO on May 08, 2019, 08:38:11 PM
Fixed it!  This is the greatest moment of my middle-aged life.  I built the wolfshirt and had no volume despite getting an LED and a sense that I had built it correctly.  Sadness.

So I replaced the stereo jack with a regular switchcraft style mono jack and the wolfshirt worked.  I wondered if the same fix would solve the honeydripper and tadaaaa . . . wah wizardry.  My suspicion is that the stereo jack wouldn't trigger audio in from a mono cable or something like that. 

I know that none of you care, but the ability to trouble-shoot my own stuff is a great feeling.  And having two working pedals tonight instead of another failure project is really joyous.  Now I just gotta figure out why the wolfshirt won't give me a clean signal when off . . .

Cheers to ya!
Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: selfdestroyer on May 08, 2019, 10:06:15 PM
Quote from: KMRO on May 08, 2019, 08:38:11 PM
I know that none of you care, but the ability to trouble-shoot my own stuff is a great feeling.  And having two working pedals tonight instead of another failure project is really joyous.

It is a great feeling... and we do care :]
Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: jimilee on May 09, 2019, 06:35:17 AM
It makes you feeling amazing. Makes it more frustrated when you can't figure out the next one.
I had the same type of problem with transistors.


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Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: KMRO on May 09, 2019, 04:47:41 PM
I didn't mean to sound petulant.  I was just thinking about future people who are struggling with the Honey Dripper, searching this thread and finding that I had used the wrong jacks which wouldn't help them.  Shout out to all the week-day soldering peeps tho!  And to madbean, the founder of the feast.
Title: Re: Honeydripper problem solving
Post by: Leevibe on May 09, 2019, 05:03:09 PM
Congrats! I feel relief and maybe a hint of surprise every time a circuit works.