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Title: Thicc is good
Post by: madbean on April 18, 2019, 11:51:09 PM
Where have you been all my life? My new favorite. If you haven't given 3mm a go I suggest it. It's pretty much all I will use now. The Primetone ones are good also.

https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/547p300-7-10137-10846-2.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn&ecList=&ecCategory=



(https://www.jimdunlop.com/images/jimdunlop/products/en_us/detail/24546300003.MAIN.jpg)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: jimilee on April 19, 2019, 12:01:18 AM
I have a V pick that's pretty thick. I started using the sharp pointed Dunlop picks. I made fun of my cousin for using them until I used one.
https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/412r-7-10137-00101-5.do?view=100119,100200


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Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: matmosphere on April 19, 2019, 01:10:17 AM
Wha!? How, it seems like it would be like playing with a tree.

I usually just play without a pick. Unless I'm playing bass.. I know it's wrong but that's
what I do
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aentons on April 19, 2019, 02:17:02 AM
I don't really understand the thick, pointy, slippery pick thing. I have tried a bunch and it just feels weird to me. I even have Gravity pick and don't really like it.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GCLS15P--gravity-picks-classic

Are there advantages that I've overlooked?


I use the .88 Neon Star Picks for electric, the thick purple 1.14 ones for bass, and the thin flappy red .50 ones for acoustic. They have a really grippy, chalky texture that I like.

Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: selfdestroyer on April 19, 2019, 05:34:34 AM
This got me thinking, I use good ol Fender mediums.. why? Because my dad used them and they were EVERYWHERE around the house. When I was a little kid, I always loved when one of my dads picks got transfered into my pocket from the washing machine. It was such a bonus when I got to school. Anyway, I have not tried many other picks just due to habit.

That may change soon. Will have to try these.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: alanp on April 19, 2019, 10:51:25 AM
I will admit, for non-chord things I'm always hugely lazy. I have nails on the end of my fingers, what's wrong with those?
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 19, 2019, 11:18:07 AM
Real* guitar players make their own picks by laminating the shed scutes from their pet red-earred slider.  8)
(http://i.imgur.com/WeJm5Akl.jpg)

(Ok, so my turtle doesn't shed fast enough for me to use only these, but it is fun anyway.)

*I'm not a real guitar player, but I fake it fairly well most of the time.  :P
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Timko on April 19, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
I finally made the move to 1.5mm after playing .88s forever :). 

However, I've been a big fan of Primetone material for a while.  Even though they aren't tacky, they have amazing grip. And for some reason, I tend to prefer the sound of clear material to a Tortex opaque material (no scientific evidence to back up these findings).
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 19, 2019, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Timko on April 19, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
I finally made the move to 1.5mm after playing .88s forever :). 

However, I've been a big fan of Primetone material for a while.  Even though they aren't tacky, they have amazing grip. And for some reason, I tend to prefer the sound of clear material to a Tortex opaque material (no scientific evidence to back up these findings).
Tortex is glass-filled polycarbonate, by the way.  I've always found that interesting. 
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Timko on April 19, 2019, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: EBK on April 19, 2019, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Timko on April 19, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
I finally made the move to 1.5mm after playing .88s forever :). 

However, I've been a big fan of Primetone material for a while.  Even though they aren't tacky, they have amazing grip. And for some reason, I tend to prefer the sound of clear material to a Tortex opaque material (no scientific evidence to back up these findings).
Tortex is glass-filled polycarbonate, by the way.  I've always found that interesting.

The plot thickens...
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: madbean on April 19, 2019, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: Timko on April 19, 2019, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: EBK on April 19, 2019, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: Timko on April 19, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
I finally made the move to 1.5mm after playing .88s forever :). 

However, I've been a big fan of Primetone material for a while.  Even though they aren't tacky, they have amazing grip. And for some reason, I tend to prefer the sound of clear material to a Tortex opaque material (no scientific evidence to back up these findings).
Tortex is glass-filled polycarbonate, by the way.  I've always found that interesting.

The plot thickens...

So do the picks.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: davent on April 19, 2019, 04:16:45 PM
I've a well worn V pick Diamond, 4mm thick which i used with all my guitars. With an acoustic sometimes the 'V', sometimes it's a big Gibson straight sided triangle, medium weight which i like the sound of the pick slap on the strings while strumming. Both types easy relaxed grip, no slippage.

dave
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 19, 2019, 06:27:06 PM
I'm really curious about this monstrously thick 3.0mm pick.  I like beveled picks a lot, to the point where I will sometimes sand a bevel onto a new pick before using it.  I've only ever done this to picks that are 1mm or slightly thicker though.  I haven't cared a lot for the purple tortex picks though at 1.14mm in the past, and I haven't cared for the thickness of BlueChip picks either (those are $35 apiece, last I checked, but come with a money back guarantee, so I'd recommend giving them a go -- they glide like butter).  Do you think if I just pushed WAY beyond pick thicknesses that I haven't cared for that I could actually like the experience?  I might just throw some of these in my next Amazon order, along with those Infeld strings I'm planning on trying.  Could turn out to be life altering.  Who knows?
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: playpunk on April 19, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
The flow jumbos are great. The 4.2mm ones are monstrous and I'm not sure if it's in a good way.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: nzCdog on April 20, 2019, 02:15:37 AM
Went through a thicky pick phase... back to 0.88mm tortex now. 

I play 9's so don't need too much weight, and this thickness allows me to switch between pick'in and strum'in seamlessly. The only trick I have is to sharpen the tips to the exact point shape I like using a little sandpaper. Takes 'em from meh to awesome
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aentons on April 20, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
Quote from: playpunk on April 19, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
The flow jumbos are great. The 4.2mm ones are monstrous and I'm not sure if it's in a good way.

How does it even fit between the strings?😀
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Leevibe on April 20, 2019, 02:46:28 AM
Quote from: EBK on April 19, 2019, 11:18:07 AM
Real* guitar players make their own picks by laminating the shed scutes from their pet red-earred slider.  8)
(http://i.imgur.com/WeJm5Akl.jpg)

(Ok, so my turtle doesn't shed fast enough for me to use only these, but it is fun anyway.)
Dude. That's kind of cool.
*I'm not a real guitar player, but I fake it fairly well most of the time.  :P
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: alanp on April 20, 2019, 04:21:29 AM
One time, I only had a tin of those Fender tortex pics on hand and the slick little bastards kept flying out of my hand.

So I chewed on one, slightly, to get a surface that I could get a grip on.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 20, 2019, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: Leevibe on April 20, 2019, 02:46:28 AM
Dude. That's kind of cool.
Thanks.  Maybe I'll start a separate thread about it when I get around to making another one (I've described it on DIYSB, but I've learned enough to make it better).  The process is a bit labor intensive, but it's super simple material-wise and hardware-wise.  And, the pick is surprisingly durable.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 20, 2019, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: Aentons on April 20, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
Quote from: playpunk on April 19, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
The flow jumbos are great. The 4.2mm ones are monstrous and I'm not sure if it's in a good way.

How does it even fit between the strings?😀
Now I am wondering what's the thickest commercially available pick. 

Edit: Found an 11.85mm so far....
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61hBr0pfU7L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: davent on April 20, 2019, 05:40:44 PM
Quote from: EBK on April 20, 2019, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: Aentons on April 20, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
Quote from: playpunk on April 19, 2019, 08:26:38 PM
The flow jumbos are great. The 4.2mm ones are monstrous and I'm not sure if it's in a good way.

How does it even fit between the strings?😀
Now I am wondering what's the thickest commercially available pick. 

Edit: Found an 11.85mm so far....
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61hBr0pfU7L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

I'd like to try one of those, the 4mm seems thin when i use it now, my screwy memory says it was fatter.
dave
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aleph Null on April 20, 2019, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: EBK on April 20, 2019, 01:50:12 PM
Now I am wondering what's the thickest commercially available pick. 

Edit: Found an 11.85mm so far....
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61hBr0pfU7L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1233/4098/products/20160726_184902_1024x1024.jpg?v=1470174354)
25mm Purple Plectrum
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: madbean on April 20, 2019, 06:02:58 PM
I've got one of the 9mm purples incoming. At the very least, it'll be a good prop.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: benny_profane on April 20, 2019, 07:25:02 PM
When I first started playing guitar, a teacher used the Dunlop 3.0mm purple big stubby ones exclusively (even turning them around to play with the round edge sometimes). I used them because I figured that was normal. Found my way to basic Dunlop .73 and .88mm nylon picks and have used those ever since. I play 11s or 12s with my acoustic and LP—both sizes work for me there. I have 10s on a jaguar and can only use the .73s with that guitar. Anything bigger and my heavy hand breaks strings way too fast.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Leevibe on April 21, 2019, 01:48:31 AM
Quote from: madbean on April 20, 2019, 06:02:58 PM
I've got one of the 9mm purples incoming. At the very least, it'll be a good prop.

As in you can prop your guitar up with it
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 21, 2019, 02:06:04 AM
Another 25mm puck pick:
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/p84RxNcl2l4/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aentons on April 21, 2019, 02:11:54 AM
This one goes to 11...
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: somnif on April 21, 2019, 03:06:08 AM
I remember playing with a friends guitar in high school, and asking to borrow a pick. Dude hands me a 0.38mm nylon ...thing.

I have no idea how one can play with a pick THAT flimsy. It felt like I would going to be shaving bits off with the strings. There was NO tactile feedback, it was like playing with a paintbrush.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aleph Null on April 22, 2019, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: somnif on April 21, 2019, 03:06:08 AM
I remember playing with a friends guitar in high school, and asking to borrow a pick. Dude hands me a 0.38mm nylon ...thing.

I have no idea how one can play with a pick THAT flimsy. It felt like I would going to be shaving bits off with the strings. There was NO tactile feedback, it was like playing with a paintbrush.

Fold it over a couple times?  8)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 22, 2019, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: somnif on April 21, 2019, 03:06:08 AM
...it was like playing with a paintbrush.
(https://img1.wantitall.co.za/prodimages/zihoco-unique-bob-ross-design-celluloid-guitar-picks-12-pack__416e5wtAQHL.jpg)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: rockola on April 23, 2019, 08:01:29 AM
Back when Jesus was a boy, I went to Leningrad in the Soviet Union. Neither of course exists by that name anymore. The music department at Gostinyi Dvor (biggest department store in town) wasn't super well stocked, I wish I'd bought that Polivoks synth though. They did have picks in a lovely wine red faux-tortoise pattern, made out of something that passed for plastic in the USSR. Don't remember how much they cost but I bought 3 bags (of 100). Never used another pick since. Just measured one and they're .6mm thick. 3mm, let alone anything thicker, is pretty much unimaginable for me.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Andlord on April 23, 2019, 08:35:50 AM
I've been playing with a Hufschmid Drop for a few years now and it is the most comfy pick I ever had.
Check them out, they are great: https://www.plectrum.ch/
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: jkokura on April 23, 2019, 04:57:26 PM
I have some thicc piccs.

I've been really digging using the Dunlop Primetone Picks, and they've turned into my favourite picks. I have some .88s for acoustic guitar, but I use the 1.4s for Electric. Very little give, grip in the middle, and my fav shape - the Jazz III XL. Perfect for me, right between the Jazz III and Regular triangle. LOVE IT. I used to use nothing but the .88 tortex picks, but I'd burn through them when they broke down and got less strong. I cannot for the life of me get these Primetone picks to break down. They stay at the right stiffness forever, and I think it has to do with material. Not sure if they're ultex or whatever. I don't mind paying a buck-fitty for a single pick with these, because they don't wear out. I remember getting 5 for a buck on those old tortexes, and I'd go through 10 in the time I've had with one of these. AMAZING!

https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/520r140-7-10137-09277-8.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn&ecList=&ecCategory= (https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/520r140-7-10137-09277-8.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn&ecList=&ecCategory=)

I also have some cool 1.5-2mm (not sure exactly) thick wood picks I got a while back. They're by John Pearse, called the Sarod. I have one in Ebony and one in Rosewood. Both are really great sounding, and they have a very different texture. I can't strum with them really, which makes me focus a lot more on my picking technique more. I like these because they have an indent for your finger, and it's a specific shape, so it forces you to hold it a certain way. They're different on each pick, so depending on the sound/technique I'm going for, I reach for one or the other.

http://www.jpstrings.com/brpicks.htm (http://www.jpstrings.com/brpicks.htm)

But my thickest pick, and I only use it occasionally, is this Dunlop 3mm Primetone pick. They're indented in the middle, so I don't have a hard time holding it, and it is pointed which I prefer compared to the rounded version. I love how weighty it is when I hit the string. I don't play metal, but I feel like I could with these things. They feel like a pick still, not like using a huge coin or something. There's a 5mm version I'm tempted by sometimes too, but the 3mm is fine for me.

https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/477r308-7-10137-00926-4.do?sortby=ourPicksAscend&page=8&refType=&from=fn (https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/477r308-7-10137-00926-4.do?sortby=ourPicksAscend&page=8&refType=&from=fn)

It's crazy, I know, but different picks have different sounds to me, and not because they change your technique, but because of the material. But I also enjoy how they feel differently, so playing with a different pick actually changes the way I play, so it might sound different also.

Jacob
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on April 23, 2019, 05:08:18 PM
Quote from: jkokura on April 23, 2019, 04:57:26 PM
I also have some cool 1.5-2mm (not sure exactly) thick wood picks I got a while back. They're by John Pearse, called the Sarod. I have one in Ebony and one in Rosewood.
I also own a rosewood sarod pick.  Sarod is actually the name of the instrument they are designed for (close cousin of the sitar), not the name of the pick. 

Bought mine mostly because it looked cool, and I sometimes like to carry an interesting guitar pick with me, even if I'm not planning on being near a guitar.  It's sort of like a fidget toy for me.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: madbean on May 10, 2019, 11:55:15 PM
Okay, yeah I went too far. But, the 5mm one on the left actually feels pretty good.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: timbo_93631 on May 11, 2019, 03:09:29 AM
I can't get thicc.  I have some.  Got onto the D'Andrea and Pyramid Strings ones for awhile, but like Cody, I am a Fender medium guy too.  I do use thick strings though, 11-50's on Tele's and Strats, 12-52 and 13-54's on the hollowbodies, archtops, and Jazzmasters. 

I get a pickup parts order or two a week from Philadelphia Luthier, they throw in some branded picks with every order that are the same size and feel as the Fender mediums, probably the most likely thing to find in my little jeans pocket.  My good buddy and guitar mentor Terry Fortune uses thin Fender Mandolin picks and 9's, thats teeny tiny stuff, but he makes it sound great, I can barely hold onto them.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: jkokura on May 11, 2019, 04:48:10 AM
Quote from: madbean on May 10, 2019, 11:55:15 PM
Okay, yeah I went too far. But, the 5mm one on the left actually feels pretty good.

That's the 5 mm version of the 3mm one I like. I agree that it feels good in the hand, amazing actually for how big it is.

Jacob
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aentons on May 12, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
Mine is super grippy and has a nice weight in the hand with natural weight relief!  8)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: movinginslomo on May 12, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
I take a leftover slab of granite from a countertop project...
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aentons on May 12, 2019, 08:11:39 PM
Quote from: movinginslomo on May 12, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
I take a leftover slab of granite from a countertop project...

No sir, that there is genuine Hawaiian volcano rock... from Hawaii (I don't actually use it as a pick tho... sorry, I was just being silly and kidding around.)
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: EBK on May 12, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
I have experimented with a pick that is 25mm thick but only 1mm wide.  I find the extreme narrowness really cuts down on the weight and lets the monstrously thick pick move faster (less wind resistance or something). 
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: gordo on May 13, 2019, 02:08:24 AM
I've been using the same half dozen Dunlop purple Tortex picks since the late 80's. with string slides and stuff they're so ratty you could slice bread with them. I had a few of the cool wood ones but wore them down to stumps (no pun intended). I've used various coins including a Loonie for that "sqwink" picking noise when it fits a song. I've certainly got my monies worth out of the Dunlops though.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aleph Null on May 13, 2019, 02:15:06 AM
It's obvious where this is heading: your pick quest will end with a shamisen bachi.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: matmosphere on May 13, 2019, 02:21:28 AM
Quote from: gordo on May 13, 2019, 02:08:24 AM
I've been using the same half dozen Dunlop purple Tortex picks since the late 80's. with string slides and stuff they're so ratty you could slice bread with them. I had a few of the cool wood ones but wore them down to stumps (no pun intended). I've used various coins including a Loonie for that "sqwink" picking noise when it fits a song. I've certainly got my monies worth out of the Dunlops though.

Good god man, it usually takes me minutes to lose a pick. That's why I haven't used them much for years. Thirty years out of the same six picks, that's impressive.
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: gordo on May 13, 2019, 12:19:04 PM
I always carry one in my right front pocket, as if there's going to be some sort of guitar based emergency occurring while I'm away from home...  :o
Title: Re: Thicc is good
Post by: Aleph Null on May 13, 2019, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: gordo on May 13, 2019, 12:19:04 PM
I always carry one in my right front pocket, as if there's going to be some sort of guitar based emergency occurring while I'm away from home...  :o

I now carry extra picks in my cymbal bag and a hihat clutch and cymbal felts in my pedal board bag. Other musicians turn up to gigs without stuff often enough.