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Plagiarism at it's best
« on: September 10, 2017, 10:09:38 PM »
I stumbled onto this listing on eBay, and the item's description sounded very familiar:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Immigrant-Tone-Bender-MKII-Pro-sola-sound-mkII-pro-replica-/253132776645?hash=item3aefe3a4c5:g:J78AAOSwB09YDTEe
It's a word-for-word copy from the FuzzCentral website here:
http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/mkII.php
I know people lift/cut/paste descriptions from other sites onto eBay all the time, but this one seemed particularly "plagiarific" (unless of course Phillip Bryant, who runs Fuzz Central, is from the Ukraine, which I don't think so). He has a disclaimer at the bottom of his site that says, "No portion of this site is to be reproduced without prior written consent."
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Re: Plagiarism at it's best
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 04:57:24 AM »
Well, you can put that disclaimer on for legal reasons, and it probably helps if things ever get before a court, it doesn't mean others still won't exploit it, or that the law can always do something about it. I daresay that most crimes go unpunished because the police cannot be everywhere. 

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 05:30:03 AM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 05:47:52 AM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

Including shipping, it will be more than 200 dollar (and then there's import taxes ...?). Yeah, the outside, that's what counts! Nobody interested in gut shots anyways, apart from some electronics nerds that'll build their own version for a fraction of that price anyway :o ... Love his tranny tester though.

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 05:49:30 AM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

Yeah, I thought the lack of inside photos was odd.  With some pedals it wouldn't matter, but folks tend to care about that with ToneBenders.

Nice looking pedal from the outside, though.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 12:36:48 PM »
LOL. I just found another one of these on Reverb.com, and sure enough, the same exact description that was lifted off FuzzCentral!
https://reverb.com/item/2788162-immigrant-tone-bender-mkii-pro-2016
I did find a gut shot of these. They do sound great in the demo, but the build might not be very gig-worthy. Seriously though, somebody over there needs to lift up their fingers and type out their own description!
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Re: Plagiarism at it's best
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 01:34:52 PM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

Yeah, I thought the lack of inside photos was odd.  With some pedals it wouldn't matter, but folks tend to care about that with ToneBenders.

Nice looking pedal from the outside, though.

I've no idea why. The best sounding TBM2s I've made were a 1590A on a PCB with random trannies, and a non-tarty russian tranny one on vero. The full DAM-clone job I did looked the part (OC81's, carbon comps and axials) but in all honesty, I prefer the sound of the others. Hard to believe that all that mojo didn't make it super awesome... :o
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2017, 02:55:32 PM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

Yeah, I thought the lack of inside photos was odd.  With some pedals it wouldn't matter, but folks tend to care about that with ToneBenders.

Nice looking pedal from the outside, though.

I've no idea why. The best sounding TBM2s I've made were a 1590A on a PCB with random trannies, and a non-tarty russian tranny one on vero. The full DAM-clone job I did looked the part (OC81's, carbon comps and axials) but in all honesty, I prefer the sound of the others. Hard to believe that all that mojo didn't make it super awesome... :o
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2017, 03:26:47 PM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

Yeah, I thought the lack of inside photos was odd.  With some pedals it wouldn't matter, but folks tend to care about that with ToneBenders.

Nice looking pedal from the outside, though.

I've no idea why. The best sounding TBM2s I've made were a 1590A on a PCB with random trannies, and a non-tarty russian tranny one on vero. The full DAM-clone job I did looked the part (OC81's, carbon comps and axials) but in all honesty, I prefer the sound of the others. Hard to believe that all that mojo didn't make it super awesome... :o

I just want to know what a "non-tarty russian tranny" is.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2017, 08:44:37 PM »
I just want to know what a "non-tarty russian tranny" is.

Her name is Ivan.

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Re: Plagiarism at it's best
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 01:36:56 AM »
If I'm buying a nearly $200 fuzz box, I don't wanna waste my time with pics of the insides, gimme 92 slightly different angles of the outside

Yeah, I thought the lack of inside photos was odd.  With some pedals it wouldn't matter, but folks tend to care about that with ToneBenders.

Nice looking pedal from the outside, though.

I've no idea why. The best sounding TBM2s I've made were a 1590A on a PCB with random trannies, and a non-tarty russian tranny one on vero. The full DAM-clone job I did looked the part (OC81's, carbon comps and axials) but in all honesty, I prefer the sound of the others. Hard to believe that all that mojo didn't make it super awesome... :o

I just want to know what a "non-tarty russian tranny" is.

A bit classier than a tarty russian tranny ;)
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Re: Plagiarism at it's best
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 07:12:10 AM »
There are plenty of folks who don't do gut shots - it just catches my eye when there's no guts but SO MANY pics of the outside --- I don't even mean in a fishy way, it's just something I notice.....I'm sure it's not from being part of online forums/groups where WE WANT GUT SHOTS is echoes frequently, lol

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 08:28:55 AM »
Anyone who's not prepared to show their guts when asked usually has something to hide. Either shoddy build or something in there that shouldn't be in there...
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 02:32:36 PM »
Ukraine? Maybe they don't have a full grasp of the US language and find it easier to just copypasta an english description. "Probably says enough in English"