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Started by madbean, August 03, 2014, 03:01:08 PM

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madbean

Upon further review (IOW, building up a production board this weekend after doing 2-3 different prototypes before the release) the Thick switch seems to be pretty useless for guitar. Looks like it was a case of me hearing something that wasn't really there. So, for guitar players I recommend just leaving this off for future builds. Bass players may find some use for it if you are going to be switching between guitar and bass regularly. In that case, I would go with an even higher value for the extra cap, say 330n instead of 150n. For guitar, it just doesn't warrant the two extra parts as is. The good news is that the Sunking is a lot easier to fit in a 1590BB with only two switches vs. three! I'll add this note to the build doc this week.

BTW: I tried LEDs for the alternate clipping diodes with a 15n cap in parallel and it sounds pretty huge. Very aggressive, and I like it a lot.

I also built up the new BYOC Silver Pony and I will be doing a comparison between the two. The SP is a somewhat different flavor of klone which isn't surprising because it uses a few different values. I like it a lot, too. I don't think I have a preference between the two sets of values (the SP values coming from a Silver era Klon) but I did do one mod to my Sunking: I lowered R9 to 470R for a bit more gain. In the SP this value is 47R, meaning it will have even more gain. But, I was happy with 470R.


GrindCustoms

Gut shot or it's a SoulFood re-house!

Nice! I hoped that you post your SP built. :)

What i've found with R9, when set with a very low value, the gain addition makes playing with different diodes more relevant.

The fat switch effect is more noticeable when you hit the input of the pedal with a boost or above unity gain compressor, it then become a nice tone shaping addition, will also beef up single coils, ended up using 390nf since they're already in the BOM.

Will give your LED/Clipping setup a try in another circuit, sounds very promising. 8)
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selfdestroyer

Very cool Brian, looking forward to the compair. Its been awhile since I have seen one of your builds posted.

Cody

Cortexturizer

Quote from: GrindCustoms on August 03, 2014, 03:15:51 PM
Gut shot or it's a SoulFood re-house!
This cracked me wide open. Lol
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jfk1063

Also, can someone explain these values? (asked it at fsb but no answer)
http://buildyourowntone.com/klontypeclonepartslayoutandwiringdiagram.html
I used these and it sounds pretty good too.
I also tried the more known schematic and am going to try the pony.

madbean

Here's the guts and a close-up of how I did the LED/Cap combo.


GrindCustoms

Woohoo! No SoulFood!  ;D

That is how i had figured the low frequency bypass cap in the clipping stage but thanks to confirm.

Rej

Quote from: jfk1063 on August 04, 2014, 12:23:36 PM
Also, can someone explain these values? (asked it at fsb but no answer)
http://buildyourowntone.com/klontypeclonepartslayoutandwiringdiagram.html
I used these and it sounds pretty good too.
I also tried the more known schematic and am going to try the pony.

John, you could take a plunge on our message board, i did the value change accordingly to the Chimaera BOM, some parts number differ from the Sunking or SP, but the schematic is essentially the same, just put them side by side and fill the gap, should do you well.

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