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Title: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 13, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
Still no lamps for the light tent so this was a swine to photo...

I decided to make a multimuff (I was so tempted to put LeeLoo Dallas on it as all I can hear in my head is Moooltimuff). Anyhow, it's not got that, it's The Kitteh Cannon. A weapon loaded with some of the angriest muffs out there.

In here is an Ultrastoner MkII, the ultimate muff of stoner goodness, a TSM680 MkII, the ultimate muff of undiscovered awesomeness and an ICBM, because quite frankly, anything less would have sounded a little weak next to those two. They're all hooked together using Thomas' Ultimate Switch.

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/kitteh-o.jpg)

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/kitteh-i.jpg)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Leevibe on December 13, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
Rad, rad, RAD!! Tell me about the LEDs. They look like they have a little metal base. Or is that just the way the pic looks?

I was kind of expecting the guts to look more like this:

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=18771.0
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 13, 2014, 05:54:23 PM
LOL!

Nah the LEDs are just pushed through.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: midwayfair on December 13, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
hehehehehehehehehe Where is that picture from?
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: micromegas on December 13, 2014, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on December 13, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
hehehehehehehehehe Where is that picture from?

quick search on google images revealed this:
(http://www.weapon-blog.com/wp-content/uplods/2013/02/kitten-gun.jpg)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 13, 2014, 07:56:17 PM
Just one I found when looking for something else and added it to the 'I must use this at some point on a pedal' folder. Looks awesome in person. I think it comes up if you search for kitten gun.

Loved the pic. Also loved the details like the first kitten relieving itself ;)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: GrindCustoms on December 13, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
That looks awesome!  Still have to do a test run of the TSM680MkII  8)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: cooder on December 13, 2014, 08:42:32 PM
Friggin' fantastic! 8)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: alanp on December 13, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
There are some strange, strange people out there.

So, Juan, what happens at full welly with everything on?
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: cooder on December 13, 2014, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: alanp on December 13, 2014, 08:45:10 PM
There are some strange, strange people out there.

So, Juan, what happens at full welly with everything on?
... or is the switching system set up that you only can select one of them at a time, the other one switches off, which would be a probably sane thing to do unless you like full on chaos...?
I still have to fully understand this radio button concept when I see the need to build it in...
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 13, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
Yeah it's the radio button set up. So:

When they're all off, stomp any effect and it comes on, stomp the active effect again and it goes off.
When an effect is active, stomp any other effect and it switches to that effect.

To be honest I only put it in because we have a surplus of relays. I'd just go for regular Optotrons. But it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: cooder on December 14, 2014, 02:42:15 AM
Quote from: juansolo on December 13, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
Yeah it's the radio button set up. So:

When they're all off, stomp any effect and it comes on, stomp the active effect again and it goes off.
When an effect is active, stomp any other effect and it switches to that effect.

To be honest I only put it in because we have a surplus of relays. I'd just go for regular Optotrons. But it's pretty cool.
Makes sense and I guess is a great way to switch three full on Muffs as you wouldn't really want two or three in series under sane conditions...
I do like relay switching, have just received a good batch of THC ueberswitches and really looking forward to putting them into builds, just really short in spare time at present and that will remain so in the next two or three months.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: icecycle66 on December 14, 2014, 03:22:00 AM
I thought linking Mk19 rounds was a pain-
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: selfdestroyer on December 14, 2014, 05:34:32 AM
Haha Love the artwork. Super clean build. 2  Ultrastoner has got to be insane, now I want to try to stack em.

Cody
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Hogharry on December 14, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
This gotta be a lot of fun! I love the idea that a surplus of relays can justify such awesomeness.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: chuckbuick on December 14, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Fuzzalicious!  Totally diggin' this one man.  Well done.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: pickdropper on December 15, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
This is fantastic.

Sometimes a graphic shows up that just must be used.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Luke51411 on December 15, 2014, 02:23:46 PM
Nice build! You might need a disclaimer. No tiny Kittehs were harmed in the making/use of this pedal... unless there's a reason its not already included :o
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Mat on December 15, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
Saw this picture on Twitter today (by @thedarkness):

Caption was: "Finally found out how guitar pedals work..."

Coincidence? I think not!  :o
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Hogharry on December 15, 2014, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: Mat on December 15, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
Saw this picture on Twitter today (by @thedarkness):

Caption was: "Finally found out how guitar pedals work..."

Coincidence? I think not!  :o
For once I really don't want to see a gut shot!  :o
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 16, 2014, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: Hogharry on December 14, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
This gotta be a lot of fun! I love the idea that a surplus of relays can justify such awesomeness.

I have 6 left. One will be another stand alone one for when I have an ultra-tight build that warrants it.

Jason has come to the rescue of the other 5 with another uber-selector switch like he used in the Bubba Fet and I used in the other multi-fuzz I did.  I'm thinking distortions this time ;)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Hogharry on December 16, 2014, 05:20:59 PM
Wrecktifier, shredder, riot, Dr B...  :o
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 16, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: Hogharry on December 16, 2014, 05:20:59 PM
Wrecktifier, shredder, riot, Dr B...  :o

Not sure if I can fit all my favourites in there. I'd keep the really high gain stuff out. But there are many others. Mainly I'll be restricted by size and knob count. Current thinking: Tweed 57, Black 65, Plexitone, Inline 8 (love that thing), SFT. Followed by a good old SHO on the end, like you do. I *think* I can pull that off in a 1590D... Haven't started shuffling in Photoshop yet. It's a lot of knobs.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: culturejam on December 16, 2014, 06:19:20 PM
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/2WS0E/that-s-beautiful-man/image.png)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Hogharry on December 16, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
Quote from: juansolo on December 16, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: Hogharry on December 16, 2014, 05:20:59 PM
Wrecktifier, shredder, riot, Dr B...  :o

Not sure if I can fit all my favourites in there. I'd keep the really high gain stuff out. But there are many others. Mainly I'll be restricted by size and knob count. Current thinking: Tweed 57, Black 65, Plexitone, Inline 8 (love that thing), SFT. Followed by a good old SHO on the end, like you do. I *think* I can pull that off in a 1590D... Haven't started shuffling in Photoshop yet. It's a lot of knobs.
Almost a multi-amp emulator. You could do a Catlinbread Roulette - just a momentary switch and a way of getting the relay switching to pick one at random needed. :D
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 16, 2014, 09:33:41 PM
Only kept two Catalinbreads after the purge. The SFT and the DLS, and I prefer the Plexitone to the DLS, so that'll end up in the multi.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Hogharry on December 16, 2014, 10:20:05 PM
Have you tried a Purple Plexi 800? It's apparently remarkably similar to the Krank Distortus Maximus but without the TMB tone stack. There's something I really like about the tone of the DM, reminds me of an eighties Marshall I should never have sold.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on December 17, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
Never built the PP800. Should really, I tend to like most of Catalinbread's stuff.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Willybomb on December 17, 2014, 10:47:06 AM
It looks a lot like the Rock-It Launcher from Fallout 3.. not that it's a bad thing.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/4/4c/Rock_It_Launcher_CA2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120405090945
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on March 12, 2015, 08:14:49 PM
It's like deja vu all over again...  ;)

Ok, so I built a Jumbo Tonebender and Tjærand snagged that. So I ordered parts to make another and Impmann over on TFB grabbed that one. Not to be beaten I've ordered two more PCBs, just to be sure, and I will have one of these for me!

To make sure I can't be talked into selling it I've put it into The Kitteh Cannon in place of the ICBM. It was sort of out of place in there anyhow, and this suits it more.

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/kittehb-i.jpg)

I've also added a photo of the photo rig now I've finally got the worlds biggest lamp shades for them. All well and good, but it makes storage interesting...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10626445_685201411586582_3315082634912886356_o.jpg)

Still the front of it remains an utter sod to photograph...

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/kittehb-o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: cooder on March 12, 2015, 08:24:16 PM
Fuzzaliciously and kitty cute to the max!
Thanks by the way for posting those big box JumboTB values, I've built one as well and dig that too! 8)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on March 12, 2015, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: cooder on March 12, 2015, 08:24:16 PM
Fuzzaliciously and kitty cute to the max!
Thanks by the way for posting those big box JumboTB values, I've built one as well and dig that too! 8)

It's surprising just how few changes make such a big difference. For the gains we've found we prefer med gains in Q1-2 (around 300) and high in Q3 (500+). If you want it to be more B&M flavoured you go high in Q1-2 and med in 3 IIRC. Cleggy will remember what was suggested... (my memory is absolutely horrible on such things). I'll also get him to note the cap and resistor we have in parallel to switch between Fuzz Unit and Tonebender (which considering I only built it today, kinda backs up the memory thing...).
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: cooder on March 12, 2015, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: juansolo on March 12, 2015, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: cooder on March 12, 2015, 08:24:16 PM
Fuzzaliciously and kitty cute to the max!
Thanks by the way for posting those big box JumboTB values, I've built one as well and dig that too! 8)

It's surprising just how few changes make such a big difference. For the gains we've found we prefer med gains in Q1-2 (around 300) and high in Q3 (500+). If you want it to be more B&M flavoured you go high in Q1-2 and med in 3 IIRC. Cleggy will remember what was suggested... (my memory is absolutely horrible on such things). I'll also get him to note the cap and resistor we have in parallel to switch between Fuzz Unit and Tonebender (which considering I only built it today, kinda backs up the memory thing...).
Oh yes I'd like more detailed info on that! I made a board for this myself that supports my pot positioning for top mounted switches, maybe I modify that layout to incorporate the switchable values... hmmm... sounds really worth it me reckons!
That layout has an adjustable pre-gain placed at input, quite useful too. More switches and tweakability?!?
Why not I'd say...

(http://i.imgur.com/F1kGCzn.png)

I've only used run of the mill BC550 so far, would be great to get some advice on your experience with thrannies then too, as far as Cleggy might have written it down or so.
Cheers!
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on March 12, 2015, 09:34:47 PM
I think it's fairly nailed on sonically, but the switch is a worthy addition. The Fuzz Unit is quite scooped compared to the Jumbo Tonebender, and it really gives the Edwyn Collins tone so is pretty worth it. Not sure I'd adjust anything else though. I just like it stock.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: juansolo on March 13, 2015, 09:47:00 AM
K here it comes:

On the 1776 Sucker Punch R4 15k on board, with a 30k in parallel on the switch.

On the 1776 Sucker Punch C11 3n3 on board, with a 1n5 in parallel on the switch.

The switch one way adds the cap (JTB), the other adds the resistor (B&M).

Gains we like are Q1-3: 350, 300, 580

The Faustone B&M was 580, 580, 170

The latter gives it a more splatty character to us. Just go with which you prefer.

We've been using BC149Cs. Getting them from eBay, they're around a pound each, but seem to suit the circuit really well.
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: cooder on March 13, 2015, 06:24:47 PM
Awesome, thanks for the info! 8)
Title: Re: The Kitteh Cannon
Post by: Guitarmageddon on March 14, 2015, 02:07:37 AM
Haha! Pussy projectiles FTW! ;D