So i have dozens and dozens of projects saved in my mouser account. All of them with Koa-Speer 1% metal film resistors because it was a decent balance between quality and cost.
I log in today to make an order and for whatever reason the cost of all Koa-Speer resistors has almost doubled! they were around 17 cents in singles and now they're up around 32 cents each!
not impressed.
That's been the case with all 1% metal film resistors at Mouser.
Today - Xcon $0.05ea 200 $10.00
Dec 07, 2015 - Xicon $0.025ea 200 $5.00
Sep 02, 2014 - Xicon $0.014ea 200 $2.80
It sucks, I agree.
Cody
I buy the Xicon resistors, and I saw Mouser raised the price maybe a year ago. I have instead been ordering them from Small Bear or PPP, but Small Bear now says he's dropping those in favor of another brand, Topmay. I ordered some of the Topmay to check them out, and I can tell you, the leads are definitely not as thick as Xicon.
The Koa-Speer seem reasonably priced in quantity. Do you think they are on-par with the Xicon ones? Are they flimsy, or have nice thick leads?
I am pretty sure that the price increases start at the manufacturer and work their way through distributors onto us. As to the cost of single resistors doubling, I doubt the price doubled at any manufacturer, but maybe they figured out their labor cost, labels and baggies and decided they were not making money at pennies per each resistor.
I've used Yageos from digikey for years, 1% metals fims in most values are still only 14 cents cdn., $8.90 cdn for 250. Dollar diifference might be 75% less in US dollars. Looks like the megaohm values are a lot more money.
dave
Quote from: davent on March 22, 2017, 05:30:33 PM
I've used Yageos from digikey for years, 1% metals fims in most values are still only 14 cents cdn., $8.90 cdn for 250. Dollar diifference might be 75% less in US dollars. Looks like the megaohm values are a lot more money.
dave
Yageos are stellar, and they offer .6v in a .25v package. I get mine at Mouser
And I thought the 5 cent vishay resistors at the local electronics store were expensive.
Praytell, where is this magical place? ;) ;D :o :)
Quote from: bsoncini on March 22, 2017, 07:10:20 PM
And I thought the 5 cent vishay resistors at the local electronics store were expensive.
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 22, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
That's been the case with all 1% metal film resistors at Mouser.
Today - Xcon $0.05ea 200 $10.00
Dec 07, 2015 - Xicon $0.025ea 200 $5.00
Sep 02, 2014 - Xicon $0.014ea 200 $2.80
It sucks, I agree.
Cody
Enjoy!
http://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Resistors/Through-Hole-Resistors/Metal-Film-Resistors/_/N-7h7zb?P=1z0wjc0Z1z0jjxq&Keyword=yageo&FS=True&Ns=Pricing|0
Quote from: warriorpoet on March 22, 2017, 11:14:18 PM
http://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Resistors/Through-Hole-Resistors/Metal-Film-Resistors/_/N-7h7zb?P=1z0wjc0Z1z0jjxq&Keyword=yageo&FS=True&Ns=Pricing (http://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Resistors/Through-Hole-Resistors/Metal-Film-Resistors/_/N-7h7zb?P=1z0wjc0Z1z0jjxq&Keyword=yageo&FS=True&Ns=Pricing)|0
Whoa! Jackpot. Very nice.
The pricing is going up because the manufacturing is scaling down. It's hard to believe that through-hole resistors would be totally discontinued, but if the manufacturing quantities continue to scale down, they could continue to go up in price.
Quote from: warriorpoet on March 22, 2017, 11:11:35 PM
Praytell, where is this magical place? ;) ;D :o :)
Quote from: bsoncini on March 22, 2017, 07:10:20 PM
And I thought the 5 cent vishay resistors at the local electronics store were expensive.
In Paris. Looks like they raised the price to 6 cents a resistor. Sold by multiples of 5 resistors hence 30 cents.
http://www.stquentin-radio.com/?page=categorie&cat=1&id=0&act=0&sous_cat1=5&sous_cat2=23&ar_cat=2&v=1
How much of a through hole 250mW resistor material is waste? 90% or more?
If it wasn't for the supposed unicorn properties of TH components in pedals, would we still use them? I remember Skreddy telling a poster on FSB that 1/2W sounded different than 1/4W resistors... wew lad. Other than breadboarding stuff, I rarely use TH anymore.
Looks like I'll be doing another Mouser order soon and getting some Yageo resistors. Thanks for the tip!
Quote from: EBRAddict on March 23, 2017, 01:04:39 PM
I remember Skreddy telling a poster on FSB that 1/2W sounded different than 1/4W resistors... wew lad.
Well, he's got some SMD-based pedals now, so it must not make that much difference. I recently got his Rover (souped up MKII) and it sounds fantastic. 95% is SMD with a few through-hole parts.
Quote from: pickdropper on March 23, 2017, 03:23:34 AM
The pricing is going up because the manufacturing is scaling down. It's hard to believe that through-hole resistors would be totally discontinued, but if the manufacturing quantities continue to scale down, they could continue to go up in price.
Yeah, pretty much everything has switched to cheap SMD manufacturing in China, so the through-hole stuff just isn't in as much demand. It's too bad since SMD is a technology that was invented to make things smaller, cheaper, and just about impossible for the DIY person to repair. It's a win-win for throw-away technology. Where are all these tiny new pedals gonna go when they fail? Right into the toilet.
Looks like the yageo mf0204 series are .4W resistors in an 1/8W package as well.
Quote from: lars on March 23, 2017, 02:01:59 PMjust about impossible for the DIY person to repair.
I agree that with traditional tools they are harder to repair. I picked up a hot air system on eBay making removing components much easier. I also got a set of super fine point test probes for my DMM and scope. And, of course, a 10x-20x magnifier headset.
For example I removed a 20+ pad Bluetooth SoC module without much effort. You couldn't remove a hard-soldered 20+ DIP without risking damage to a board.
The biggest issue I have is components not being labeled.
supply and demand, not mousers fault
95% of my design work for clients is SMD , TH resistors will be around for a long time I believe but SMD is hard to avoid now.
yeah i know this isn't mouser's fault. I emailed them about it hoping that it was a website mistake, but they confirmed that there was a price increase on 3/16/17
honestly, i can't really see the justification for a sudden near 50% price increase unless the company is being run by incompetent people who don't know how to forecast sales properly.
Koa-Speer has now gone from a middle-of-the-pack price to the highest price for through hole resistors.
whoa these yageo's are cheap even in canada, are they really up to snuff? i have been using xicons for years! always been reliable so i'm hesitant to switch brands ;)
Quote from: stecykmi on March 25, 2017, 01:53:10 AM
whoa these yageo's are cheap even in canada, are they really up to snuff? i have been using xicons for years! always been reliable so i'm hesitant to switch brands ;)
The Yageo's from Mouser are just fine. Unless they've changed, the ones I've always gotten have nice thick leads
Quote from: zilla on March 24, 2017, 02:50:34 PM
yeah i know this isn't mouser's fault. I emailed them about it hoping that it was a website mistake, but they confirmed that there was a price increase on 3/16/17
honestly, i can't really see the justification for a sudden near 50% price increase unless the company is being run by incompetent people who don't know how to forecast sales properly.
Koa-Speer has now gone from a middle-of-the-pack price to the highest price for through hole resistors.
The pricing increase likely isn't related to bad forecasting or incompetency, but due to declining demand for through-hole resistors. With reduced demand from the supply chain, production cuts back, which increases the cost.
Quote from: warriorpoet on March 22, 2017, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 22, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
That's been the case with all 1% metal film resistors at Mouser.
Today - Xcon $0.05ea 200 $10.00
Dec 07, 2015 - Xicon $0.025ea 200 $5.00
Sep 02, 2014 - Xicon $0.014ea 200 $2.80
It sucks, I agree.
Cody
Enjoy!
http://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Resistors/Through-Hole-Resistors/Metal-Film-Resistors/_/N-7h7zb?P=1z0wjc0Z1z0jjxq&Keyword=yageo&FS=True&Ns=Pricing|0
Very cool, thanks for the heads up. I will put in an order and give them a go.
Cody
Well as for ordering from Mouser I was a little dissapointed. I ordered from their Dutch site (I live in the Netherlands) for around € 27,-- and they charged me € 20,-- shipping costs?!
There's a threshold in Mouser orders -- if your order total is above a certain value, then shipping is *free*. It's $66NZD for NZ orders, I don't know what it is for Netherlands sorry.
As for resistors, I'm happy with cheap ones as long as they are the value advertised :D
For France. I think it is 50 d or 60 euros then shipping is free and they take care of the customs costs.