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Title: Rangemaster question
Post by: reddo on August 05, 2011, 11:01:29 PM
I built my first Rangemaster and something seems off. When it is on I have less than unity gain, is this normal?
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: jkokura on August 05, 2011, 11:55:44 PM
Depends on where your pot is set, and some of the values you used. If I remember right, unity is at about 11PM on mine...

Jacob
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: dwstanford on August 06, 2011, 12:34:21 AM
You should have tons of gain with a rangemaster.  Make sure your pinouts are correct.  If its a pnp germanium, you should either have a red dot to mark the collector or a metal tab to mark the emitter.
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: reddo on August 06, 2011, 12:50:53 AM
Thanks guys. The pot is cranked all the way, I used the values from the build doc. I first tried it with a low gain si pnp then the ge pnp same deal with both. Next step is to triple check all the component values.
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: jkokura on August 06, 2011, 12:56:02 AM
Also see if you wired your pot backwards. If you turn it down, does it get louder?

Jacob
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: gtr2 on August 06, 2011, 01:27:49 AM
Quote from: dwstanford on August 06, 2011, 12:34:21 AM
You should have tons of gain with a rangemaster.  Make sure your pinouts are correct.  If its a pnp germanium, you should either have a red dot to mark the collector or a metal tab to mark the emitter.

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Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: dwstanford on August 06, 2011, 02:46:59 AM
If your transistor pinout is correct, check the voltage on the collector.  You should get around 6.5 to 7.5 volts.  If its way off, like 2 or 3 volts, you may want to double check your component values.  Luckily there arent very many.  This circuit works well with transistor gains around 100.  If your transistor is much higher for instance, you may need to alter the 3.9k resistor value slightly to bias correctly.  This should not affect the gain though.  It should still be very loud even if the bias is a bit off. 
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on August 06, 2011, 06:22:01 AM
I agree this sounds like when I've put transistors in backwards. With a heavy fuzz it will kinda sputter and decay really quickly. You should definitely be getting a huge boost to the point of over-driving your amp.
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: reddo on August 06, 2011, 05:58:32 PM
Got it working. I tried an AC128 I had and everything was fine. I had the first one I tried marked as 80 - 100 hfe perhaps it isn't.
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: dwstanford on August 07, 2011, 03:51:38 AM
Great.  Glad you got it going.  Now go blow up some amplifiers.  8)
Title: Re: Rangemaster question
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on August 08, 2011, 02:58:51 AM
Quote from: dwstanford on August 07, 2011, 03:51:38 AM
Now go blow up some amplifiers.  8)

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