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Title: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: FuzzMonkey on May 19, 2019, 08:50:46 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anybody know of any readily available pedal enclosures i.e. 1590B/125B-style that have 100% straight/vertical sides?
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: EBK on May 20, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
You'd be looking at either extruded, folded, or machined enclosures to get those straight sides.  The 2% draft angle is a necessary feature of cast enclosures.

You will probably find some nice machined enclosures in 1590B sizes if you search for "box mod" enclosures.  That's a term that the DIY vaping people use.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: FuzzMonkey on May 20, 2019, 01:40:10 AM
Quote from: EBK on May 20, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
You'd be looking at either extruded, folded, or machined enclosures to get those straight sides.  The 2% draft angle is a necessary feature of cast enclosures.

You will probably find some nice machined enclosures in 1590B sizes if you search for "box mod" enclosures.  That's a term that the DIY vaping people use.

Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: Aentons on May 20, 2019, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: FuzzMonkey on May 20, 2019, 01:40:10 AM
Quote from: EBK on May 20, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
You'd be looking at either extruded, folded, or machined enclosures to get those straight sides.  The 2% draft angle is a necessary feature of cast enclosures.

You will probably find some nice machined enclosures in 1590B sizes if you search for "box mod" enclosures.  That's a term that the DIY vaping people use.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm curious what you'd be using them for? I had the idea of using hollow bolts to join multiple enclosures together for multi-effect type thing. Let us know what you find?
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: FuzzMonkey on May 22, 2019, 07:39:59 AM
Quote from: Aentons on May 20, 2019, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: FuzzMonkey on May 20, 2019, 01:40:10 AM
Quote from: EBK on May 20, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
You'd be looking at either extruded, folded, or machined enclosures to get those straight sides.  The 2% draft angle is a necessary feature of cast enclosures.

You will probably find some nice machined enclosures in 1590B sizes if you search for "box mod" enclosures.  That's a term that the DIY vaping people use.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm curious what you'd be using them for? I had the idea of using hollow bolts to join multiple enclosures together for multi-effect type thing. Let us know what you find?

Just plain old curiosity really. I did find these at ModBoxMaker:

http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Enclosures/ModMakerBox-Enclosures?limit=100 (http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Enclosures/ModMakerBox-Enclosures?limit=100)

Pretty expensive but the idea of using magnets rather than screw seems interesting.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: somnif on May 22, 2019, 08:34:51 AM
Quote from: FuzzMonkey on May 22, 2019, 07:39:59 AM
Pretty expensive but the idea of using magnets rather than screw seems interesting.

Useful for those folks who fill every spare milimeter of those cases with high capacity lithium cells. Don't want a stray screw thread shaving to pierce one of those bombs in your pocket
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: pickdropper on May 22, 2019, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: FuzzMonkey on May 22, 2019, 07:39:59 AM
Quote from: Aentons on May 20, 2019, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: FuzzMonkey on May 20, 2019, 01:40:10 AM
Quote from: EBK on May 20, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
You'd be looking at either extruded, folded, or machined enclosures to get those straight sides.  The 2% draft angle is a necessary feature of cast enclosures.

You will probably find some nice machined enclosures in 1590B sizes if you search for "box mod" enclosures.  That's a term that the DIY vaping people use.

Thanks for the tip.

I'm curious what you'd be using them for? I had the idea of using hollow bolts to join multiple enclosures together for multi-effect type thing. Let us know what you find?

Just plain old curiosity really. I did find these at ModBoxMaker:

http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Enclosures/ModMakerBox-Enclosures?limit=100 (http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Enclosures/ModMakerBox-Enclosures?limit=100)

Pretty expensive but the idea of using magnets rather than screw seems interesting.

Cast aluminum boxes are relatively inexpensive to produce.  Extruded alum is almost always going to be more expensive.

The issue with most extruded boxes is that they are usually made as a long tube and chopped, so the panels are usually attach to both ends, not top/bottom like most pedals.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: matmosphere on May 22, 2019, 04:16:29 PM
I never see extruded enclosures with a flat surface on top.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: matmosphere on May 22, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
These are interesting

https://www.hawkusa.com/manufacturers/hammond-mfg/enclosures/chassis/1444-8?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIso329sSv4gIVUV8NCh3NsAEBEAQYBCABEgIbzPD_BwE

Not sure if they'd hold up to being stomped on.

Have you considered using sheet aluminum and building and shielding a wooden frame for it to sit in.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: Aentons on May 22, 2019, 08:58:07 PM
Quote from: Matmosphere on May 22, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
These are interesting

https://www.hawkusa.com/manufacturers/hammond-mfg/enclosures/chassis/1444-8?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIso329sSv4gIVUV8NCh3NsAEBEAQYBCABEgIbzPD_BwE

Not sure if they'd hold up to being stomped on.

Have you considered using sheet aluminum and building and shielding a wooden frame for it to sit in.

These are similar but would prob hold up better:
http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg16_CWW.htm
http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg16.htm
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: Aentons on May 22, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
Thes Bud boxes don't appear to be sloped

https://www.budind.com/view/Die+Cast+Aluminum+Enclosure/Econobox

Edit: Nevermind... Their customer support says "they do have a draft angle, only way to get out of the mold"
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: FuzzMonkey on May 23, 2019, 07:49:30 AM
Thanks for sharing your finds.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: somnif on May 23, 2019, 07:56:52 AM
Obviously the answer is to learn sand casting and make your own!

...that feasible, right?
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: alanp on May 23, 2019, 08:07:31 AM
I'd say look for bent-metal enclosures.

They won't be as strong as die-cast, mind you.

Any reason you want non-sloping sides?
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: EBK on May 23, 2019, 09:49:09 AM
These are sweet looking:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Alpinetech-1590B-CNC-Milled-Aluminum-Enclosure-Box-Hidden-Magnet-Anodized/222881126100?hash=item33e4c016d4

Another benefit of machined aluminum over cast aluminum enclosures is that machined enclosures can be beautifully anodized.  Cast enclosures have irregular crystalization patterns, which would leave them splotchy looking.

I used a machined wooden enclosure for my theremin fuzz, but the website appears to be no more.  Very expensive, but fun to experiment with.
Title: Re: Enclosures with 100% Straight/Vertical Sides?
Post by: FuzzMonkey on May 24, 2019, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: alanp on May 23, 2019, 08:07:31 AM
I'd say look for bent-metal enclosures.

They won't be as strong as die-cast, mind you.

Any reason you want non-sloping sides?

No. Just curious.