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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:13:57 AM

Title: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:13:57 AM
Spent 3 hours trying to stuff a board into a 125b  that's normally fitted into a 1590bb, struggling with wiring (I suck at wiring), and after routing everything over/under/through/around........the cheap plastic jack I got from tayda stripped out at the threads.

Stopped myself from throwing the pedal across the room, and decided to vent here, instead.


$#%$#$%&*.





That is all.

Wait, that's NOT all....

Got that crappy jack out, soldered in a good one, got everything done......

Bad pot. audio goes in and out when the pot shaft is jiggled. dammit.

but wait....wait......

bad footswitch. just took it out of the tayda bag, untouched until now. all soldered in. audio goes in and out with every stomp or jiggle.

no, cant be. my luck cant be that bad.... check the wires, solder joints...rule everything out.

yup, bad switch.


DAMMIT.

with the new job, i have so little precious time for things, and  i feel robbed of my time, even more than the money for the crap components.

and there aint no refund for time.

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Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh!
Post by: kothoma on July 18, 2013, 05:25:29 AM
Quote from: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:13:57 AM
the cheap plastic jack

Which one?
Title: Re:
Post by: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:37:26 AM
Quote from: kothoma on July 18, 2013, 05:25:29 AM
Quote from: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:13:57 AMthe cheap plastic jack

Which one?
the one that has the insert..... This http://www.taydaelectronics.com/6-35mm-1-4-stereo-insulated-switched-socket-jack-pcb.html (http://www.taydaelectronics.com/6-35mm-1-4-stereo-insulated-switched-socket-jack-pcb.html)


I should know better. Plastic threads are ALWAYS bad news.

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Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh!
Post by: GermanCdn on July 18, 2013, 05:44:56 AM
Hate to say it, but i had the same problem, and you have to use more spacers than provided to get a decent fit with those.  The original pcb jacks from Tayda are still one of my faves,  but the other ones they have brought in recently are junk.  The steel threaded external ones are also junk, the nuts are poor fitting.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh!
Post by: BraindeadAudio on July 18, 2013, 05:50:13 AM
Neutrik/switchcraft from 4site. never buy jacks or switches from tayda, only ICs transistors, diodes resistors and Caps.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh!
Post by: kothoma on July 18, 2013, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:37:26 AM
Quote from: kothoma on July 18, 2013, 05:25:29 AM
Quote from: ch1naski on July 18, 2013, 05:13:57 AM
the cheap plastic jack

Which one?
the one that has the insert..... This http://www.taydaelectronics.com/6-35mm-1-4-stereo-insulated-switched-socket-jack-pcb.html (http://www.taydaelectronics.com/6-35mm-1-4-stereo-insulated-switched-socket-jack-pcb.html)


OK, thanks. Need to make a note on my mental blacklist...
I think I had some of these in my last order that hasn't arrived yet. Ah, well.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: BuGG on July 19, 2013, 01:54:33 PM
I've had no trouble with the standard metal jacks, pots, or 3PDT switches from Tayda.
However, I did learn the hard way that you can't use the nut from the stereo jack on the mono jack....

The 9V battery connectors on the other hand, I'll never buy another one of those.

Oh and the SPDT toggle switches, you better get it right the first time, those things don't take heat very well.
Stupid switch, oh well, it looks nice.   
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh!
Post by: pickdropper on July 19, 2013, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: BraindeadAudio on July 18, 2013, 05:50:13 AM
Neutrik/switchcraft from 4site. never buy jacks or switches from tayda, only ICs transistors, diodes resistors and Caps.

Agreed.  Although I don't do a lot of their caps, either.  Their LEDs are fine, though.

I added knobs to that list.  I just got some of the Marshall style knobs and the quality is poor.  I didn't expect much, but I did expect them all to be the same color.  ::)
Title: Re:
Post by: ch1naski on July 19, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
I've got about ten Davies style knobs that have stripped threads on the set screw holes, right out of the bag. Comes out to about every one in five that i ordered is useless.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: gingataff on July 19, 2013, 02:29:14 PM
I'm mostly bummed by the sanded/laser etched j201s and jrc4558s I got a while back.
The j201s I got recently look better but still measure quite differently to the genuine fairchilds I have.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: G.G. on July 19, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
I used to get these from Tayda:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/hardware/6-35mm-1-4-plugs-jacks/6-35mm-1-4-mono-chassis-socket-jack.html

But cables seem to fit sort of loosely in them, and I've had problems with the nuts not fitting right and misthreading. I started getting a bag of Neutriks from Lawrence over at Bitches'

http://bitcheslovemyswitches.com/#!/~/product/category=5027593&id=18726663

they're only 10 cents more and much higher quality. So far his 3PDTs have been fine too.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: BuGG on July 19, 2013, 03:36:22 PM
Another thing worth noting with Tayda...

I submitted a customer review about the 9V battery connectors about two months ago, not completely bashing them, just advising that they may not be the best in applications where the battery might be changed frequently...

My review never appeared....
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: GermanCdn on July 19, 2013, 03:51:26 PM
Wow, that's a terrible string of luck.  Like I said before (and I didn't intend for it to be a bash on Tayda, it's just some stuff is in fact crap), there's only one jack I'll use from them.

I haven't had any issues with their 9V jacks, and I've used both the internal and external mount, the only problem is they clearly order from different suppliers, and the nut for one doesn't fit the nut for the other.

As far as the SPDTs, yeah, you can't desolder them, but if you get them right, they work fine.  I got a much, much worse order of switches from Banzai once.

I don't buy their 3PDTs, just because I can get better volume prices elsewhere.  That being said, they're all probably made in the same factory anyway, so if there's a bad lot, everyone's going to have them.

Never had a bad pot from them.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: BuGG on July 19, 2013, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on July 19, 2013, 03:51:26 PMI haven't had any issues with their 9V jacks

I've had no problems with the 9V jacks, I was referring to the battery snaps.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: GermanCdn on July 19, 2013, 04:23:45 PM
My bad.
Title: Re:
Post by: ch1naski on July 19, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
Lesson learned.

All mechanical/knobs/etc will be ordered elsewhere from this point forward.

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Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: RobA on July 19, 2013, 08:44:53 PM
Some of their mechanicals are OK, others are totally crap. I've taken to doing an order of one from them when I'm getting something else just to see what it's like. I agree that their switches are crap (except for the SPST momentary stomp which I think feels pretty good). But, so is every other inexpensive switch I've seen. Actually, all cheap switches from every supplier look just the same to me -- junk. Good switches are expensive.

Knob wise, most of Tayda's pretty much suck. Some are OK. Smallbear's clones are much better than the other suppliers I've tried. Again, most of the cheap ones look like they come from the same factory that Tayda gets theirs from. But, if you are looking for rubbery-synthy knobs, those really cheap ones that Tayda carries are pretty good and they fit the Alpha pots perfectly.

I've had two cases of semi's being out-of-spec or fake from Tayda, 2N5458's and JRC4558's. Both were obviously stripped and remarked. But, that could be on their suppliers and you see it happening to lots of places and everything else I've ordered from them seems fine.

I've never ordered jacks or 3PDT foot switches though because I got a bunch of them a few years ago and I haven't run out yet.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: RobA on July 19, 2013, 09:38:30 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot, I hate their resistors. The leads are so wimpy that they are hard to breadboard with and don't take heat well for soldering. The Xicons in packs of 200 from Mouser are cheaper and much nicer.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: BuGG on July 20, 2013, 12:10:16 AM
Quote from: GermanCdn on July 19, 2013, 04:23:45 PM
My bad.

Hope I didn't come off as "snappy"... Wasn't my intentions!     ;D

Fake semiconductors? Oh wow...    Now that I didn't even consider. 

The knobs I've gotten from Tayda have actually been decent, where the ones I've gotten from other dealers look somewhat scuffed up.... That said, I have stripped the flat head off the metal inserts in a few WAY too easily.


Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: das234 on July 20, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
Quote from: G.G. on July 19, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
I used to get these from Tayda:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/hardware/6-35mm-1-4-plugs-jacks/6-35mm-1-4-mono-chassis-socket-jack.html

But cables seem to fit sort of loosely in them, and I've had problems with the nuts not fitting right and misthreading. I started getting a bag of Neutriks from Lawrence over at Bitches'

http://bitcheslovemyswitches.com/#!/~/product/category=5027593&id=18726663

they're only 10 cents more and much higher quality. So far his 3PDTs have been fine too.

Have you done a lot of business with bitcheslovemyswitches.com?  I've never heard of them but the site looks promising.
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: jimilee on July 20, 2013, 01:19:43 AM
Quote from: das234 on July 20, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
Quote from: G.G. on July 19, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
I used to get these from Tayda:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/hardware/6-35mm-1-4-plugs-jacks/6-35mm-1-4-mono-chassis-socket-jack.html

But cables seem to fit sort of loosely in them, and I've had problems with the nuts not fitting right and misthreading. I started getting a bag of Neutriks from Lawrence over at Bitches'

http://bitcheslovemyswitches.com/#!/~/product/category=5027593&id=18726663

they're only 10 cents more and much higher quality. So far his 3PDTs have been fine too.

Have you done a lot of business with bitcheslovemyswitches.com?  I've never heard of them but the site looks promising.
Alot, usually $100 a ta time. Bill me later gives me 6 mos same as cash   ;D. Lawrence is a stand up guy for sure. His stomps with shipping are the cheapest I've found, and I only get my enclosures and most of my knobs from him.  If he doesn't have what you need, you can email him too. Fast shipping for sure. He's also on eBay as itches love my switches
Title: Re: >=!?#$#! Cheap a$$ tayda jacks! Argh! (now with added gripes!)
Post by: Beedoola on July 20, 2013, 09:40:17 PM
Quote from: G.G. on July 19, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
I used to get these from Tayda:

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/hardware/6-35mm-1-4-plugs-jacks/6-35mm-1-4-mono-chassis-socket-jack.html

But cables seem to fit sort of loosely in them, and I've had problems with the nuts not fitting right and misthreading. I started getting a bag of Neutriks from Lawrence over at Bitches'

http://bitcheslovemyswitches.com/#!/~/product/category=5027593&id=18726663

they're only 10 cents more and much higher quality. So far his 3PDTs have been fine too.

I've had the same problem with those Tayda jacks too! Thanks for that link to bitches..
Title: Re:
Post by: ch1naski on July 21, 2013, 03:37:15 AM
Bitches is a great deal.... I just hate spending double/triple for shipping when I need parts that I can't get from just a single supplier.
But blms is the place to go for boxes and switches. Best deal in town.


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