Hey eveyone, this is my first post since 2013, meaning i've been out of the pedal game for 4ish years :o I've realised i really miss it and want to start putting in the time again!
Feeling an urge to prove something to myself, i'm going to attempt a PLLone, as i've always wanted to try one out. I know it might be wiser to start with a fuzzface or something, but so far it's going OK-
(http://i.imgur.com/ybYx5aw.jpg)
What I'm wondering is if anyone here has done this, and if they have any photos or advice. The great Photobucket nightmare has hindered my research somewhat >:(
Anywhoo, it's nice to be back and I hope to be here often. Now I'm off to drool at the build reports section some more! Best wishes to you all
Ambitious! Go for it!
I'd check out the thread on DIYSB by digit2. it's in the members section.
Even though the pics aren't there anymore, you can check out the section in the gallery ... it's got all the docs for his vero build.
I'm working on a pcb with Dino (digi2t) at the moment, i'll keep you posted.
Quote from: stringsthings on August 21, 2017, 03:15:55 AM
Ambitious! Go for it!
I'd check out the thread on DIYSB by digit2. it's in the members section.
Even though the pics aren't there anymore, you can check out the section in the gallery ... it's got all the docs for his vero build.
Thanks for the heads-up, looks like i have some reading to do!
Quote from: PMowdes2 on August 21, 2017, 09:09:34 AM
I'm working on a pcb with Dino (digi2t) at the moment, i'll keep you posted.
Colour me interested- would deffo pick one up when available!
Quote from: PMowdes2 on August 21, 2017, 09:09:34 AM
I'm working on a pcb with Dino (digi2t) at the moment, i'll keep you posted.
Cool! me want also! :)
This just popped up in my email.
https://www.earthquakerdevices.com/data-corrupter
+1 for one of Dino's (digits) boards
Also in for a Dino board when it's available.
A blue dino schumann PLL board has been in my box of fail for quite awhile, something's sick with the input opamp.
This will be a new pcb design with board mounted components, I'm keen to avoid too much off board wiring.
Quote from: vizcities on August 24, 2017, 04:54:01 AM
Also in for a Dino board when it's available.
+1 for me please
Quote from: Andlord on August 27, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
Quote from: vizcities on August 24, 2017, 04:54:01 AM
Also in for a Dino board when it's available.
+1 for me please
Nearly done with the PCB design
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:o :o :o
Nice!
That looks actually a lot more like Ftelletronica's take on the PLL than the original one... So, including the drone part, which is amazing, but with even more stuff...
What are the pushbuttons for? or maybe is it just to mark the positionning of the pots?
That looks nuts. Is there more pots/switches than resistors/capacitors on that PCB?
Quote from: Mikro93 on August 31, 2017, 09:45:45 AM
:o :o :o
Nice!
That looks actually a lot more like Ftelletronica's take on the PLL than the original one... So, including the drone part, which is amazing, but with even more stuff...
What are the pushbuttons for? or maybe is it just to mark the positionning of the pots?
No push buttons, they are 9mm pots.
It includes the drone and momentary footswitches on board, the only external input is for an areppegiator.
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Quote from: bsoncini on August 31, 2017, 06:12:22 PM
That looks nuts. Is there more pots/switches than resistors/capacitors on that PCB?
Yup, there isn't much to it if you remove all of the pots and switches
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soldersqueeze, I only found out about the PLL this week and have been gathering info. It must be that EQD pedal that's made it pop up so much as a topic of conversation recently. This guy built one w/ mods using the same Tagboard layout as you:
http://jbpedals.blogspot.gr/2016/09/schumman-pll-clone-with-add-ons.html
I'm tempted too...
I've hit a bit of a snag with the design I made. I cannot find a B2M 9mm right angled pot for the response control. I get the impression they don't exist.
Anyone got any ideas where to find one???? otherwise it's back to the drawing board.
You could contact alpha and ask them if they would do a small run. On their website the biggest value for 9mm pots is 1M.
Maybe it is easier to just design it to wire off board
Dualgang 1M pot in series with itself?
your layout looks fantastic. If it becomes available, this is one of those builds I want to build not because I need or would use the effect much, but rather for the challenge. Drilling the enclosure will be giving me nightmares for days.
+1 count me in (and I don''t even know what it does)
looks like fun project
I've managed to rework it so that I can fit a 16mm pot on-board for the response control. it's not ideal, but it will do the job. I just need to get the stomp switches spaced correctly and do a final check over, then I think I can get a set of prototypes made. Keep your eyes peeled for updates.
A little update, just waiting for payday
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you reworked it quite a bit! this is going to be a demanding build for sure. eager to see/hear the results
Yeah, I had trouble routing it with the divider below the multipler, too many crossed traces with the pots and ICs. This isn't as faithful to the original but given the drone and momentary footswitches and all the off board stuff are all on board I think most people won't mind.
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Looking good!
Looks fun. Would love be to get my hands on one when they come available.
Cody
Boards have arrived, waiting for parts (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/6c7dbd3d1de3d51e84670fada6e3051b.jpg)
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waiting for the group buy!
A combination of personal circumstance and a few warm-up builds delayed progress but i've picked this back up.
Quote from: Netnnk on September 01, 2017, 04:57:07 AM
soldersqueeze, I only found out about the PLL this week and have been gathering info...
I'm tempted too...
Thanks for the link, here are a few pics to encourage you to join me in this madness
(http://i.imgur.com/MVp3wW4.jpg)
All the wires
(http://i.imgur.com/NMeJs7F.jpg)
I rigged it up so i could wire up one side of the board then flip it over. The layout is really good for this as most of the pot wires are one side and the rotary switch wires the other.
(http://i.imgur.com/kI5amM5.jpg)
Flipped the board and wired switches before transfering to the box. There are a few wires from the pots which need to be joined with wires from the "rotary switch" side of the board to be soldered up and tucked away, but it means i can flip over the board if i need to trouble shoot the wiring or solder side of the vero. Think it's going well so far.
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 11, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
Boards have arrived, waiting for parts
Does this run on 12vac like the original? I have a 500ma 12vac adaptor from ebay and have been wondering about wiring ac power. Do i just take one terminal to the +12vac wire on the board and treat the other as i normally would ground? Any input greatly appreciated.
Yes and yes. The PLL splits the ac power though the two regulators which are adjusted via the two trimmers, you should be looking for +11V and - 11V there or there abouts depending on the iCs you are using. Have a look through the thread over on DIY for a clearer idea of how to set it up.
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 25, 2017, 09:59:27 PM
Yes and yes. The PLL splits the ac power though the two regulators which are adjusted via the two trimmers, you should be looking for +11V and - 11V there or there abouts depending on the iCs you are using. Have a look through the thread over on DIY for a clearer idea of how to set it up.
Thank you that's great. I couldn't find anything specific to wiring the power input, and just have a real mental block when it comes to the fact that it doesn't matter which way round you wire the tip and sleeve of the power. I guess it's because i've never used AC for anything before.
Build progress (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171028/0a3576cb550cdb974b065f23b6076e6a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171028/4d4b5308d9bbe2913917ebb4ee041cb8.jpg)
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 28, 2017, 10:10:27 PM
Build progress
Damn that looks so clean! Between this and your Ring Stinger PCB i really can't wait to send you all my money :) Please do let us know when you do a run of them, i'd be gutted to miss out
Quote from: soldersqueeze on October 29, 2017, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 28, 2017, 10:10:27 PM
Build progress
Damn that looks so clean! Between this and your Ring Stinger PCB i really can't wait to send you all my money :) Please do let us know when you do a run of them, i'd be gutted to miss out
Now with knobs (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/ca77fb00b5a91556696ab936e015ca24.jpg)
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Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 29, 2017, 06:13:50 PM
Quote from: soldersqueeze on October 29, 2017, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 28, 2017, 10:10:27 PM
Build progress
Damn that looks so clean! Between this and your Ring Stinger PCB i really can't wait to send you all my money :) Please do let us know when you do a run of them, i'd be gutted to miss out
Now with knobs (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/ca77fb00b5a91556696ab936e015ca24.jpg)
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Last update,
This spent a week on the bench and wouldn't pass signal, finally figured it out and it runs pretty sweet, still need to find some time when the nipper is out of the house to really give it a blast. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/79a9b5dda79257c579a244835c424300.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/8065dbc7260f71af721355040cf540e4.jpg)
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Quote from: PMowdes2 on November 06, 2017, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 29, 2017, 06:13:50 PM
Quote from: soldersqueeze on October 29, 2017, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on October 28, 2017, 10:10:27 PM
Build progress
Damn that looks so clean! Between this and your Ring Stinger PCB i really can't wait to send you all my money :) Please do let us know when you do a run of them, i'd be gutted to miss out
Now with knobs (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171029/ca77fb00b5a91556696ab936e015ca24.jpg)
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Last update,
This spent a week on the bench and wouldn't pass signal, finally figured it out and it runs pretty sweet, still need to find some time when the nipper is out of the house to really give it a blast. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/79a9b5dda79257c579a244835c424300.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/8065dbc7260f71af721355040cf540e4.jpg)
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So things went a bit quiet on this one, sorry.
The original build works great but the 9mm pot combo with the large rotary switches as a no go, plus all the controls were mega cramped.
So I rejigged it with 16mm pots in a larger layout, ordered the boards and sat around waiting.
The delivery went missing in the post but finally arrived yesterday.
As always I'm short of a few components but I think it's much better in a larger enclosure. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171220/a3c77f6541dcf598d39a16bc435e0c19.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171220/4368e864eddef560fea52ff63b306867.jpg)
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That looks awesome! I really need one of those PCB's :).
Are you going to do a group-buy?
Quote from: stringsthings on December 20, 2017, 12:46:22 PM
That looks awesome! I really need one of those PCB's :).
Are you going to do a group-buy?
Group buy! Group buy! Group buy!
In as well if such a thing occurs. 8)
The boards will probably be in his onlineshop. Google for DeadEndFX
Quote from: Andlord on December 20, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
The boards will probably be in his onlineshop. Google for DeadEndFX
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GD6qtc2_AQA/maxresdefault.jpg)
Thanks for that (seriously)! I had no idea he had an online shop. Soo many cool PCBs!
A ludwig phase II pcb.... a Korg Phase-wah pcb... a Frostwave funk-a-duck pcb...
Oh my.
YEah, I need that dudes adress. I think I'm just going to send him my whole wallet.
Quote from: Andlord on December 20, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
The boards will probably be in his onlineshop. Google for DeadEndFX
Thanks! I also wasn't aware that there was an onlineshop.
Quote from: somnif on December 21, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
A ludwig phase II pcb.... a Korg Phase-wah pcb... a Frostwave funk-a-duck pcb...
Oh my.
PLL, Ludwig, MrMulti and Frostwave pcbs are all up for sale on the site now :)
Quote from: PMowdes2 on January 17, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: somnif on December 21, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
A ludwig phase II pcb.... a Korg Phase-wah pcb... a Frostwave funk-a-duck pcb...
Oh my.
PLL, Ludwig, MrMulti and Frostwave pcbs are all up for sale on the site now :)
I got one of the Mr multis from the pusherman sale as well as a few others. Any chance you have the build doc?
BTW. Real high quality pcbs.
In later parts of the demo video, the notes decay with an interesting creaking sound. Could anyone provide any technical insight into the generation of that creaking?
It almost sounds like an envelope following voltage starve. Its not, I can see the schematic, but thats the first thing my ear thought. The schematic is a bit CMOS'y for my brain to easily track though, so who knows.
Quote from: bsoncini on January 17, 2018, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on January 17, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: somnif on December 21, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
A ludwig phase II pcb.... a Korg Phase-wah pcb... a Frostwave funk-a-duck pcb...
Oh my.
PLL, Ludwig, MrMulti and Frostwave pcbs are all up for sale on the site now :)
I got one of the Mr multis from the pusherman sale as well as a few others. Any chance you have the build doc?
BTW. Real high quality pcbs.
Hey, I did post in pusherman at the beginning of the week. I'll get something uploaded today, sorry for the delay
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Quote from: PMowdes2 on January 17, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: somnif on December 21, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
A ludwig phase II pcb.... a Korg Phase-wah pcb... a Frostwave funk-a-duck pcb...
Oh my.
PLL, Ludwig, MrMulti and Frostwave pcbs are all up for sale on the site now :)
Any chance you have an ETA on the String Ringer PCBs? It'd be great to be able to get a couple of things in the same order if possible.
Edit: just noticed the PLL boards sold out already...dang. Welp, guess I'll be waiting either way then.
I'm starting to box up my Flanger with No Name, and I thought I had finally gotten through building weird circuits. Then I find out about DeadEndFX, and I'm already deciding what I need to order next.
I have a problem.
Quote from: lincolnic on January 19, 2018, 05:01:21 AM
Quote from: PMowdes2 on January 17, 2018, 08:42:45 AM
Quote from: somnif on December 21, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
A ludwig phase II pcb.... a Korg Phase-wah pcb... a Frostwave funk-a-duck pcb...
Oh my.
PLL, Ludwig, MrMulti and Frostwave pcbs are all up for sale on the site now :)
Any chance you have an ETA on the String Ringer PCBs? It'd be great to be able to get a couple of things in the same order if possible.
Edit: just noticed the PLL boards sold out already...dang. Welp, guess I'll be waiting either way then.
Both PLL and ring stinger will be back in stock in a week or so
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Great, thanks! I'll have to keep an eye out for announcements.