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Title: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 07, 2014, 05:42:39 PM
I'm really quite proud of this one.

I loved the Gilmourizer I made for Phil so immediately started making plans for a Mk2 version for me. The first time around I made my life miserable by squeezing too much into too small a box, so this one goes in the big 'un (1550G). Now I've got more space it's allowed me to take some different options on some of the effects. Ah the effects, there's six of them in here.

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/gilmourizer2-o.jpg)

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/gilmourizer2-i.jpg)

First in line is the compressor. It's the Grind Customs Rotten Komp again. The go to compressor based on a Lovesqueeze. It brings the sustain, and we also use it in this context for a little boost before the muff.

The DGM3 is built on a Grind Ultrastoner board. We've added it to the build doc for those that want a Gilmour flavored muff. What we did here was by process of elimination, try to figure out what his No1 muff was. Taking those values we then set up the shape control of the Ultrastoner board to be the standard muff all the way counter clockwise and just about a P19's mid hump fully clockwise. Sound wise we think it hits the mark a lot better that many things out there. Ridiculous sustain, great solo tone.

The output of the DGM3 goes through a ISP Decimator clone (Galego's layout fabbed by Haberdasher). This is because all the following effects amplify the low level noise from the muff. You could probably put up with it, but the gate eliminates this completely.

From there we hit the boost, a Madbean Fatpants mk1 (many thanks to Cooder for that). This again seems to work really well with what's gone before, not only thickening the sound, but allowing for some nice tone shaping with the body and soft switches (we added the latter as that was from the 2013 Fatpants).

Then we hit the effect that was missing from the Mk1 Gilmourizer due to a cronic lack of space; a CE-2 clone (Madbean Pork Barrel). Gotta have it.

Finally we have Madbean's magnificent ZeroPoint Double Delay. There's been a bit of tweakery here though. We've taken out the passive filtering and grafted in the active 'analogue' filter from the ZeroPoint Super Deluxe. To do this, knock the following together on vero:

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/schematics/Misc/ZPSDXAnalFilter.jpg)

To add it: Jumper R22. Omit C21. Connect filter in place of C20 (in goes on the pad connected to the ghost switch, out goes to the pad that goes to R22 and pin3 of mix). This also disables Path so all repeats are filtered rather than having an unfiltered first repeat. If you want path on, connect the filter in place of R22. Power and ground to the filter board come from the spare pads at the top of the ZPDD.

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/gilmourizer2-i3.jpg)

Talking of power, it's unwise to run multiple charge pumps on common power in the same enclosure. You can get heterodyning occurring, which is nasty. So there's a single Madbean Road Rage from which we're taking both an 18v feed for the Fatpants (we just omitted the charge pump and associated other components) and a 15v feed for the CE-2. With an LT pump on there it has plenty of grunt for both.

The next common multi problem we had was clock noise. With the CE-2 raised up to clear the Fatpants, the long legs on the pots were acting a bit like an aerial transmitter and the delay was picking up the clicks from the clock. We've had this before with the CE-2, it's a bit of a swine for it. In this case we've bent a sheet of metal (actually was RF shielding from something) between the CE-2 and delay. This shielding is then connected to ground. No more clicks.

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/gilmourizer2-i2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on December 07, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
SWEET looking pedal Juan!  ;)

Surprised there is no Flanger in your Gilmour inspired pedal.  ???
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: jkokura on December 07, 2014, 05:49:22 PM
Yeah John, that's super clean.

Jacob
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 07, 2014, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on December 07, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
SWEET looking pedal Juan!  ;)

Surprised there is no Flanger in your Gilmour inspired pedal.  ???

Limited to 5 stomps on a 1550G... Contemplated adding one on a switch with the CE-2, but one chunk of modulation in there is enough to deal with ;)
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: cooder on December 07, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
Maaaannnn! Stacked awesomeness and graphics to kill! Brilliant! :o
Glad the board helped and made it in to this! Super sweet build! 8)
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 07, 2014, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: cooder on December 07, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
Maaaannnn! Stacked awesomeness and graphics to kill! Brilliant! :o
Glad the board helped and made it in to this! Super sweet build! 8)

Yeah the fatpants is what's been holding this one up with bean being out of stock. I didn't really want to go with any other boost as it works so well in this. Bit of a lifesaver that one. Cheers!
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: micromegas on December 07, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
Seriously impressive, sir. I'm sure you could also fit a mini-Gilmour in there and just relax and let him play.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: brejna on December 07, 2014, 10:39:39 PM
This is piece of work, yours multi pedals are beautiful inside out. From time to time I visit  your blog and those pedals look really professional and inspiring..
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: selfdestroyer on December 07, 2014, 10:42:13 PM
Looks like someone is good at Tetris. lol

Awesome build.

Cody
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: TGP39 on December 07, 2014, 11:19:58 PM
I just showed this to my brother who is a huge Pink Floyd fan....he says to me, "holy crap this is awesome.  Can you build me one of those?"  I gave him my fuzz face clone and told him to kick rocks!   :o
Bravo my dear Juan. Bravo.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: jubal81 on December 07, 2014, 11:22:49 PM
That's a serious masterpiece right there. Holy Wow!


I also love that there are 6 ladies & 6 effects. You've outdone yourself - and that's really saying something.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: Hogharry on December 07, 2014, 11:33:15 PM
They just get better and better John! It must be something in the beer up there. I'm a massive Gilmour fan, so if you could just pop it in the post now I should get it in time for Christmas.  ;D

I have a ZPDD board waiting to be built and it just got even more interesting with the filter mod, so thanks very much for sharing yet again. I'm finally finishing off my P19 and now I'm slightly disturbed to find myself wanting to build a DGM3 already. But then everyone should have a full range of Gilmouresque muffs to choose from, right? (Just remembered the unfinished Pink Flesh type thing... Oops).

I wish I'd known about the Decimator boards sooner. I tried find one for a Christmas pressie multi I'm building for my son but I failed. It's probably too late to get one and the chips here in time for the build now. Unless you have a spare? Alternatively you could pull that one out for me...   ...on the other hand maybe not.

That thing is full of awesome goodness but I have to say that there is something particularly nice about the neat little row of opto boards along the bottom. Enjoy it!
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: alanp on December 08, 2014, 04:52:50 AM
If anyone else tried that, same configuration, same 3D board layout, it'd look like a blimmin' mess. But you make it look elegant and clean :)
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: Leevibe on December 08, 2014, 04:55:26 AM
Incredible planning and execution here. Genius shielding.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: lincolnic on December 08, 2014, 04:57:55 AM
If anyone else built this, there's no way you'd be able to see the bottom of the enclosure. Really amazing work.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 08, 2014, 09:18:24 AM
Quote from: Hogharry on December 07, 2014, 11:33:15 PM
I wish I'd known about the Decimator boards sooner. I tried find one for a Christmas pressie multi I'm building for my son but I failed. It's probably too late to get one and the chips here in time for the build now. Unless you have a spare? Alternatively you could pull that one out for me...   ...on the other hand maybe not.

The THAT chips are easy enough to get hold of (Farnell here). The Decimator layout Haberdasher can do for you. It's the one Galego/Slade did over on DIYSB. I've a copy of it here: http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/schematics/ISP/

It's VERY tight in places... You'll end up using a mixture of 1/8th watt resistors and odd tants here and there to get it all in. Never bothered with the G-String version as I tend to use them for specific things like this.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 08, 2014, 09:19:09 AM
Cheers guys!  :D
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: TNblueshawk on December 08, 2014, 04:57:47 PM
Pure insanity in the best possible way!
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: Hogharry on December 08, 2014, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: juansolo on December 08, 2014, 09:18:24 AM
The THAT chips are easy enough to get hold of (Farnell here). The Decimator layout Haberdasher can do for you. It's the one Galego/Slade did over on DIYSB. I've a copy of it here: http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/schematics/ISP/

It's VERY tight in places... You'll end up using a mixture of 1/8th watt resistors and odd tants here and there to get it all in. Never bothered with the G-String version as I tend to use them for specific things like this.
Thanks John, I missed Farnell. I'm building a Grindy style pre board mute/tuner out>comp>klone I would add the gate but I'm its cutting it too fine to try to get a board from the US in time. Maybe I will do one in a separate box later. It's a shame because it would all fit in the box. I don't really want to add a gate knob with nothing inside but it's tempting.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 08, 2014, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: Hogharry on December 08, 2014, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: juansolo on December 08, 2014, 09:18:24 AM
The THAT chips are easy enough to get hold of (Farnell here). The Decimator layout Haberdasher can do for you. It's the one Galego/Slade did over on DIYSB. I've a copy of it here: http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/schematics/ISP/

It's VERY tight in places... You'll end up using a mixture of 1/8th watt resistors and odd tants here and there to get it all in. Never bothered with the G-String version as I tend to use them for specific things like this.
Thanks John, I missed Farnell. I'm building a Grindy style pre board mute/tuner out>comp>klone I would add the gate but I'm its cutting it too fine to try to get a board from the US in time. Maybe I will do one in a separate box later. It's a shame because it would all fit in the box. I don't really want to add a gate knob with nothing inside but it's tempting.

You have PM...
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: jimilee on December 09, 2014, 06:08:24 AM
Jealous!!!!
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: raulduke on December 09, 2014, 09:19:53 AM
Awesome build dude!
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: pickdropper on December 10, 2014, 07:20:07 PM
A bit late to the part on this one.

Fantastic build, John.  That wiring sets the standard.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: marmaliser on December 11, 2014, 11:16:39 AM
Never too late to state that that is awesomage
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: Hogharry on December 12, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
Am I right in thinking that the IC on the vero is a TL072?
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 12, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Hogharry on December 12, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
Am I right in thinking that the IC on the vero is a TL072?

Yup
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: Hogharry on December 12, 2014, 11:06:46 PM
...because it's half the TL074 in the Super Deluxe.
Title: Re: Gilmourizer II
Post by: juansolo on December 13, 2014, 09:19:55 AM
Indeed :)

No reason you couldn't graft in the 'tape' filter instead if you prefer.