Quote from: Matmosphere on May 30, 2018, 01:21:33 AM
I remember looking for Orville and Burny Les Pauls 10-15 years ago but never picked one up. So some of this knowledge has been floating around for quite some time.
The thing that amazes me is that some Tiesco and other no name guitars go for serious money these days. Don't get me wrong. I think they are cool looking guitars, I'm just not sure they are a good value considering what else you can buy in the $500ish range.
Totally agree with you. That's just madness, especially given how much cheap guitars have improved over the last 10-20 years. As is often remarked upon here, you can get a pretty nice guitar for under 500 bucks these days as the Chinese have really stepped up their game. Those Tiesco and Silvertone guitars are basically junk. Kinda cool junk, but definitely badly made.
Are you suggesting that the rise in value of those old, cheap instruments is a knock-on (or even direct) effect of the rise of the lawsuit/MIJ thing? I'd never thought about that, but I'd absolutely buy into it.
I had a healthy interest in Japanese guitars when I living there, and those Orville models were near the top of my list. But I never bought one. I almost bought an Orville 335, but I (stupidly) cheaped out. If memory serves, they wanted something like 70,000 yen for it, which was quite a lot for a Japanese-made guitar ten years ago. Anyway, I guess we all have regrets. I came across some nice Burny LP copies, too. My impression of those guitars were that the quality varied a fair bit, but some were great and they were really cheap at the time. Like $300 cheap.
I wonder about is whether all the foreign attention to these guitars has rehabilitated their image in the minds of Japanese players. Do Japanese guitars now recognize that their domestic market produced some really nice (and now vintage) instruments? Or do they laugh at all the foreigners who have convinced themselves that their domestic guitars are somehow great?