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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: sikmunky on April 22, 2015, 08:57:46 PM

Title: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: sikmunky on April 22, 2015, 08:57:46 PM
Anyone know of a decent cab sim? I'm getting tired of lugging my band in a box boss br80, laptop, and speaker monitor to work. I'd like to just bring my guitar, 1 or 2 of my multi builds, a cab sim, and my headphones or monitor. Plus, when I change things up and bring a different guitar with me(actives instead of passive or vice versa) I have to spend time redoing "sweet spot" patches when I should just be practicing. Thanx in advance for any help.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: Willybomb on April 22, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
There's a whole thread over on DIYstompboxes dedicated to it.  But... I've built the marshall cab sim on Sabrotone and quite like that out of the couple of different ones I've built.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: TGP39 on April 23, 2015, 12:35:19 AM
I'm really interested in building the Hotline 2 Cab Sim

(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a420/TGP39/image.jpg1_zpsxy1biavn.jpg) (http://s1033.photobucket.com/user/TGP39/media/image.jpg1_zpsxy1biavn.jpg.html)

Steve.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: sikmunky on April 23, 2015, 12:40:14 AM
Anything with an etch layout? Other than the condor I guess
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: oldhousescott on April 23, 2015, 01:23:02 AM
Carl Martin Rock Bug
ADA GCS-2 or -3
Hughes and Kettner Red Box
Logidy EPSi with C firmware (permits loading different IRs)
Two Notes Torpedo CAB (also loads different IRs)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: wgc on April 23, 2015, 02:01:28 AM
Didn't much like the condor.

The hotline I've heard good things about but haven't tried it.

I've got a cab sim build in the works but forgot which schem at the moment.  Hope to post a build and will include the schematic too, which included an etch able transfer.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: sikmunky on April 23, 2015, 04:23:54 AM
Oldhousescott- do you if there are any layout for any of the ones you mentioned? I looked for over 2 hours and only found a few other than the condor.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: oldhousescott on April 23, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
I found a layout for the Red Box II here: http://rapidriotboxes.blogspot.com/2009/02/di-boxh-red-box-mark-ii.html (http://rapidriotboxes.blogspot.com/2009/02/di-boxh-red-box-mark-ii.html)
Schematic is here: https://guitar-gear.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=31055 (https://guitar-gear.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=31055)

As you can see, it's just a passive treble peaking filter followed by two Sallen-Key low-pass filters. Not terribly exotic, and not as complex as the Condor. I've got a Red Box III (passive version) and it's useable in a pinch, but nowhere near as realistic as the newer digital convolution boxes that can load cabinet IRs.

If you're looking for something on the cheap, just get a Behringer ULTRA-G GI100 DI box with cab sim and call it a day.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: Muadzin on April 24, 2015, 09:37:04 AM
Quote from: oldhousescott on April 23, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
I found a layout for the Red Box II here: http://rapidriotboxes.blogspot.com/2009/02/di-boxh-red-box-mark-ii.html (http://rapidriotboxes.blogspot.com/2009/02/di-boxh-red-box-mark-ii.html)
Schematic is here: https://guitar-gear.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=31055 (https://guitar-gear.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=31055)

As you can see, it's just a passive treble peaking filter followed by two Sallen-Key low-pass filters. Not terribly exotic, and not as complex as the Condor. I've got a Red Box III (passive version) and it's useable in a pinch, but nowhere near as realistic as the newer digital convolution boxes that can load cabinet IRs.

On the other hand I do know a lot of sound engineers who absolutely love the Red Box.

It probably depends on what you're using it for. I can understand that in a studio environment every detail matters as you want your sound to be as true to the original as possible. In a live situation, all that matters is getting a good sound through the mix.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: micromegas on April 24, 2015, 09:49:19 AM
http://www.hexeguitar.com/diy/techinfo/cabsims

http://www.hexeguitar.com/diy/utility/se33
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: Willybomb on April 24, 2015, 01:03:31 PM
QuoteIf you're looking for something on the cheap, just get a Behringer ULTRA-G GI100 DI box with cab sim and call it a day
Got one of these... not too bad actually.  The best in-box cabsim imo is in the Blackstar HT line of pedals, it just sounds great using it.  Wish someone would find a schematic of that!
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good speaker cab simulator?
Post by: micromegas on April 24, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
Quote from: Willybomb on April 24, 2015, 01:03:31 PM
The best in-box cabsim imo is in the Blackstar HT line of pedals, it just sounds great using it.  Wish someone would find a schematic of that!
look at the bottom of this thread in FSB:
http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3901&hilit=blackstar&start=40