Hi,
I am thinking about buyint the Irwin unibit #1. Who uses that here? Can I do all or most of the hole on a pedal with this bit?
Thank you!
I use one of those but i start holes with a 1/16" bit, then a 3/32" then a 1/8" and then the Unibit. Big enough for jacks and stomp switches but even with 1/32" steps i still make use of a tapered reamer .
dave
I've used the Irwin unibit 1 on pretty much every pedal I've ever built. It will cover all the bases, including switching DC jack. I center punch first and generally drill a small pilot hole. I think about 3/32". I find the bit follows true after that.
Yes- center punching is absolutely essential! Otherwise the bit will start where it wants, not good.
dave
I know Irwin has a decent rep, but I've had 3 of them and they all had problems. 2 of them had an unusable amount of wobble. Frankly, the harbor freight cheapie bits were better centered.
I highly recommend the Klein unibits. Much better quality.
If you can get the scratch together, a set of GOOD drill bits (from 1 to 13mm in 0.5mm steps) is a very useful thing to have. I use my grandfather's old set that Dad inherited.
I just recently started using a similar one from Milwaukee.
Center punching and pilot drilling the holes first, haven't had any issues. I've used it on about a dozen boxes so far.
The only thing that sucks (a little) is the length of the bit prevents it from being able to drill the hole for the stomp switch. The drill bottoms out on the work bench/back cover. (I like to do the drilling with the cover on to catch most of the shavings in the enclosure)
I just drill it as far as I can with the step bit then change to the right size drill for the rest. Not a big deal and it definitely saves a lot of time over changing through multiple drill bits.
Drill a hole in the workbench so the drill has someplace to go. Use the hole when filing/reaming a hole. A workbench bench comes in handy.
Pot/jack/plug holder for soldering.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/davent/2d6305be-5220-4fcc-ba5a-8005057398bd_zps1f32d591.jpg)
The Irwin Unibit is way overpriced IMO. I've had great results with this
http://www.amazon.com/Neiko%C2%AE-10193A-Titanium-Drill-3-Piece/dp/B001OEPYWK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453833878&sr=8-4&keywords=step+bit (http://www.amazon.com/Neiko%C2%AE-10193A-Titanium-Drill-3-Piece/dp/B001OEPYWK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453833878&sr=8-4&keywords=step+bit)
with the 1/8-1/2 by 32nds being used 90% of the time.
Quote from: miter53 on January 26, 2016, 06:48:12 PM
The Irwin Unibit is way overpriced IMO. I've had great results with this
http://www.amazon.com/Neiko%C2%AE-10193A-Titanium-Drill-3-Piece/dp/B001OEPYWK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453833878&sr=8-4&keywords=step+bit (http://www.amazon.com/Neiko%C2%AE-10193A-Titanium-Drill-3-Piece/dp/B001OEPYWK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453833878&sr=8-4&keywords=step+bit)
with the 1/8-1/2 by 32nds being used 90% of the time.
Seconded on the Neiko bits. Inexpensive and decent quality.
No experience with the Neiko bits, but stay far away from their digital calipers.
/end thread derail
I don't see skimping on a bit that I will drill thousands of holes with over the course of years. I was planning to get a new Irwin, as mine is finally showing signs of dulling, and it has developed a slight wobble. I like Klein stuff though. It looks like essentially the same price as the Irwin but with a 3/8" shank. I think I'll give that a try. Thanks Dave.
I've always used the $10 set from harbor freight. Aluminum is pretty soft, so it's a pretty easy job even for econo bits.
The trick to making nice plumb holes is center punch, send a small bit through, and then just drill very slowly with the step bit. And don't press down real hard with the drill, let the bit do the work.
Use cutting oil. Stops the alloy binding to your bits, & preserves their tip sharpness
Quote from: Leevibe on January 27, 2016, 04:47:16 AM
I don't see skimping on a bit that I will drill thousands of holes with over the course of years. I was planning to get a new Irwin, as mine is finally showing signs of dulling, and it has developed a slight wobble. I like Klein stuff though. It looks like essentially the same price as the Irwin but with a 3/8" shank. I think I'll give that a try. Thanks Dave.
Let me know what think, Lee. I've had really good luck with the Klein bits.
Alternatively, if you feel like spending more money, the Hougen mini hole cutters (they call them RotaCut) are simply the best thing I've used. They have a spring loaded arbor that rides in the center punch hole. Basically, if you locate the center punch correctly, it's going to drill where you want it. I've barely touch the unibit since I got these.
http://www.hougen.com/cutters/sheet-metal-hole-cutters/Rotacut-sheet-metal-hole-cutters.html
Quote from: nzCdog on January 27, 2016, 06:40:08 AM
Use cutting oil. Stops the alloy binding to your bits, & preserves their tip sharpness
This is good advice. Cutting oil is cheap and helps a lot. It takes a bit more time to clean up the box afterwards, but it's usually worth it.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 27, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: Leevibe on January 27, 2016, 04:47:16 AM
I don't see skimping on a bit that I will drill thousands of holes with over the course of years. I was planning to get a new Irwin, as mine is finally showing signs of dulling, and it has developed a slight wobble. I like Klein stuff though. It looks like essentially the same price as the Irwin but with a 3/8" shank. I think I'll give that a try. Thanks Dave.
Let me know what think, Lee. I've had really good luck with the Klein bits.
Alternatively, if you feel like spending more money, the Hougen mini hole cutters (they call them RotaCut) are simply the best thing I've used. They have a spring loaded arbor that rides in the center punch hole. Basically, if you locate the center punch correctly, it's going to drill where you want it. I've barely touch the unibit since I got these.
http://www.hougen.com/cutters/sheet-metal-hole-cutters/Rotacut-sheet-metal-hole-cutters.html
Whoa, those look sweet. I checked out the 11075 small diameter kit. I wish they had a few more pedal friendly sizes. Still, I have a feeling that's a set you buy once and your grandkids end up with them some day.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 27, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: Leevibe on January 27, 2016, 04:47:16 AM
I don't see skimping on a bit that I will drill thousands of holes with over the course of years. I was planning to get a new Irwin, as mine is finally showing signs of dulling, and it has developed a slight wobble. I like Klein stuff though. It looks like essentially the same price as the Irwin but with a 3/8" shank. I think I'll give that a try. Thanks Dave.
Let me know what think, Lee. I've had really good luck with the Klein bits.
Alternatively, if you feel like spending more money, the Hougen mini hole cutters (they call them RotaCut) are simply the best thing I've used. They have a spring loaded arbor that rides in the center punch hole. Basically, if you locate the center punch correctly, it's going to drill where you want it. I've barely touch the unibit since I got these.
http://www.hougen.com/cutters/sheet-metal-hole-cutters/Rotacut-sheet-metal-hole-cutters.html
Those do look nice! Any experience with this similar set that seems to be slightly less expensive?
http://www.amazon.com/Blair-Rotobroach-SAE-Master-Sizes/dp/B008DFZN0G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1453910978&sr=1-3-fkmr1&keywords=Hougen+11085 (http://www.amazon.com/Blair-Rotobroach-SAE-Master-Sizes/dp/B008DFZN0G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1453910978&sr=1-3-fkmr1&keywords=Hougen+11085)
A question: One of the convenient things about the unibit is that one bit will drill many diameters. How do you feel about having to swap cutters for each hole size? My tool weenie side really likes these, but it seems like it might be overkill and less convenient for drilling aluminum pedal boxes.
Quote from: miter53 on January 27, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 27, 2016, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: Leevibe on January 27, 2016, 04:47:16 AM
I don't see skimping on a bit that I will drill thousands of holes with over the course of years. I was planning to get a new Irwin, as mine is finally showing signs of dulling, and it has developed a slight wobble. I like Klein stuff though. It looks like essentially the same price as the Irwin but with a 3/8" shank. I think I'll give that a try. Thanks Dave.
Let me know what think, Lee. I've had really good luck with the Klein bits.
Alternatively, if you feel like spending more money, the Hougen mini hole cutters (they call them RotaCut) are simply the best thing I've used. They have a spring loaded arbor that rides in the center punch hole. Basically, if you locate the center punch correctly, it's going to drill where you want it. I've barely touch the unibit since I got these.
http://www.hougen.com/cutters/sheet-metal-hole-cutters/Rotacut-sheet-metal-hole-cutters.html
Those do look nice! Any experience with this similar set that seems to be slightly less expensive?
http://www.amazon.com/Blair-Rotobroach-SAE-Master-Sizes/dp/B008DFZN0G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1453910978&sr=1-3-fkmr1&keywords=Hougen+11085 (http://www.amazon.com/Blair-Rotobroach-SAE-Master-Sizes/dp/B008DFZN0G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1453910978&sr=1-3-fkmr1&keywords=Hougen+11085)
A question: One of the convenient things about the unibit is that one bit will drill many diameters. How do you feel about having to swap cutters for each hole size? My tool weenie side really likes these, but it seems like it might be overkill and less convenient for drilling aluminum pedal boxes.
No experience it's th Blair, but that's actually more money than I spent on the Hougen stuff. It's cheaper if you only get the sizes you use, but you do forgo the nice carrying case. The large size cutters get pricey, but I generally don't need those for pedal enclosures, so I saved by not getting them (yet).
Swapping the cutters is a bit of a pain, but my overall drilling time per box has gone down. Long term, I think I am going to get an arbor for every bit, which will make things go faster still. I think the arbors are $15 a piece, so I only have two of them now.
Quote from: desmondtencents on January 26, 2016, 12:47:49 PM
I just recently started using a similar one from Milwaukee.
I use one of them too. It has far less wobble than the two Unibits I have. If Milwaukee made a metric version I'd buy one.
Quote from: davent on January 26, 2016, 06:25:26 PM
Drill a hole in the workbench so the drill has someplace to go. Use the hole when filing/reaming a hole. A workbench bench comes in handy.
Pot/jack/plug holder for soldering.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/davent/2d6305be-5220-4fcc-ba5a-8005057398bd_zps1f32d591.jpg)
That's brilliant! I'm totally going to do that.