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Title: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 24, 2014, 09:53:39 PM
Deadringer II, Sunking II, Zero Point Micro II, Zero Point Mini, NomNom, Naughty Fish, Kingslayer II as well as more Weener Wah and Kranken PCBs.



Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: GrindCustoms on April 24, 2014, 11:47:56 PM
Nom Nom Nom, this is going to be Naughty! 8)
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: gtr2 on April 25, 2014, 12:12:59 AM
LIKE!
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: AllenM on April 25, 2014, 12:25:53 AM
Order placed... money spent!

AllenM
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: upthepunxxx on April 25, 2014, 12:43:08 AM
Being new to the site, I was going to ask about the Sunking and how to order one. I am going to order one now. Im super pumped!!

Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: ckim715 on April 25, 2014, 04:01:45 AM
AHHHH do I get a Kingslayer or a Sunking!?
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: selfdestroyer on April 25, 2014, 04:10:27 AM
Quote from: ckim715 on April 25, 2014, 04:01:45 AM
AHHHH do I get a Kingslayer or a Sunking!?

Do what I did, get both and decide later. lol

Cody
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Tremster on April 25, 2014, 07:19:19 AM
The new Deadringer might be the be all and end all of Tubescreamers.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Tremster on April 25, 2014, 07:30:25 AM
Is it just me, or does the "Order" link for the Bacon Bits not work? It sends me to Paypal's website, not to the shopping cart. Don't have this with the others?!
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 25, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
Looks like I broke some of the code on the Baby Boards buttons. All fixed now. Just be sure to refresh the page next time you load it up. Thanks for the catch.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 26, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
Quick update: I'm working furiously on the new documentation and it will be up as quickly as possible. All the orders from this new batch will be processed tomorrow and shipped Monday morning.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Kinki fuzz on April 27, 2014, 08:50:32 PM
The ZP MINI is an awesome project
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 27, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
Thank you! I'm really happy with how it turned out. Plus, I've been jonesing to incorporate some of those plastic shaft pots in a project since they are so cheap now.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: selfdestroyer on April 28, 2014, 02:04:17 AM
Brian, great job on the Kingslayer2 doc and thanks for including a link to your Photoshop template for it. Saved me a bunch of time.

Cody
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 28, 2014, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 28, 2014, 02:04:17 AM
Brian, great job on the Kingslayer2 doc and thanks for including a link to your Photoshop template for it. Saved me a bunch of time.

Cody

Cool, thanks!


All the docs are up except for the Deadringer2. I have to put in some time processing orders before people start flooding me with emails, but I will do my best to get the Deadringer completed tonight.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: GermanCdn on April 28, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
After reading the build doc, I should have ordered more than one Sunking (it's this new mantra I'm trying out - I don't need to build three variants of every circuit.  Clearly it's a misguided decision on my part, and I will have to change it).

It's also easily the funniest build doc I've ever read.  Well done.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: ichilton on April 28, 2014, 09:57:10 PM
Madbean - you say in the Kingslayer 2 doc about not knowing how to do the buffered/true bypass switch.

The info is here:
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15958

See especially the comments by paulc, who did the design for the KTR.....and this link:
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?p=97859#p97859

Ian
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: pickdropper on April 28, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on April 28, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
After reading the build doc, I should have ordered more than one Sunking (it's this new mantra I'm trying out - I don't need to build three variants of every circuit.  Clearly it's a misguided decision on my part, and I will have to change it).

It's also easily the funniest build doc I've ever read.  Well done.

It's a great build doc, but I was a bit disappointed that there wasn't a part number for the card table on the BOM.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: GermanCdn on April 28, 2014, 10:18:06 PM
I just assumed the card tables were unobtanium as well; hence not listed on the BOM :P

And how excited is Jimi that there's bass specs?
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: selfdestroyer on April 28, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on April 28, 2014, 10:18:06 PM
And how excited is Jimi that there's bass specs?

Thought the same thing. lol

Cody
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 28, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: ichilton on April 28, 2014, 09:57:10 PM
Madbean - you say in the Kingslayer 2 doc about not knowing how to do the buffered/true bypass switch.

The info is here:
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15958

See especially the comments by paulc, who did the design for the KTR.....and this link:
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?p=97859#p97859

Ian

Thanks, Ian. It wasn't so much not knowing how to do it, but rather not knowing how they did it. Specifically, you would want to lift the pulldown resistor in buffered bypass mode which to me looks like it would require a 3pdt toggle. But, it's such a minor thing I can't see it having a negative influence on the outcome. If it has already been dissected on FSB, people may just want to go with that setup rather than my solution. I did not know Paul had chimed in (I don't check in there too often).
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: pickdropper on April 28, 2014, 10:51:23 PM
Actually, a 1M resistor in buffered bypass does seem to darken the tone somewhat.  I accidentally put it on the first layout of the 1590a Klon boards I did.  I think Cleggy was the one that caught it.  I was just so used to putting a pull down there.....
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 28, 2014, 11:01:49 PM
It's actually 2M2 in this case. I know for a fact that is what he used in the KTR (or it might have been 2M...whatever). Still, I'm not really sure how the pulldown would load the signal, especially considering it is buffered right after that. It might be possible to leave the pulldown off altogether, regardless of what bypass method you use. I'll check it out as soon as I can get to it. My curiosity is piqued.
Title: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: pickdropper on April 28, 2014, 11:14:29 PM
Well, it might be different with 2M2.  It's possible it was all in our heads, but I believe that all three of us (me, Juansolo and Cleggy) felt it was a little dark and it seemed to improve by snipping the 1M.

I also felt the build sounded different with MLCC caps vs electros and I've always been a capacitance is capacitance guy.  I'd have to double-check how close the MLCC caps were being run to their rated voltage as they derate as they get close.

Interesting, indeed.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: upthepunxxx on April 28, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
I'm still new to the whole PCB build idea. When it says PCB mount for the pots, does that mean I should get right angle PCB mount pots? From looking at the layout on the build document, that seems to make the most sense. I am having trouble trying to visualize using straight pcb mount pots? Does that make sense? Apologies if this is common knowledge, just want to make sure I can use the pots to hold the board in place. I'm probably gonna order screw stand­off hardware from Small bear as well.

Also, thank you so much for the detailed build document. That really helps doodes like me  ;D
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: m-Kresol on April 28, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Brian, great job! The all look fantastic. I'll wait with my order till the delay madness starts in may and get it all in one bunch. I hope there's still a Kingslayer left by then.
I also have one question, we've been over quite often... The sunking is the version of the two which is closer to the original Klon (TM). I say "closer to" rather than "the same". It just looks to me from the schematics that the sunking has gained quite a few options to the original Klon (TM). What is the advantage of Kingslayer vs. Sunking.
Please don't get me wrong, this is not a complaint or anything, I'm just a little confused since the sunking seems to have a lot of new options.
Again: Kudos!

Quote from: upthepunxxx on April 28, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
I'm still new to the whole PCB build idea. When it says PCB mount for the pots, does that mean I should get right angle PCB mount pots? From looking at the layout on the build document, that seems to make the most sense. I am having trouble trying to visualize using straight pcb mount pots? Does that make sense? Apologies if this is common knowledge, just want to make sure I can use the pots to hold the board in place. I'm probably gonna order screw stand­off hardware from Small bear as well.

yes, that's exactly what it means. It just makes everything pretty neat since you don't have to run wires around the enclosure. on the down side you have to drill really exact or the pots won't fit -> DRILL PRESS
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: upthepunxxx on April 29, 2014, 12:18:07 AM

Quote from: m-Kresol on April 28, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Brian, great job! The all look fantastic. I'll wait with my order till the delay madness starts in may and get it all in one bunch. I hope there's still a Kingslayer left by then.
I also have one question, we've been over quite often... The sunking is the version of the two which is closer to the original Klon (TM). I say "closer to" rather than "the same". It just looks to me from the schematics that the sunking has gained quite a few options to the original Klon (TM). What is the advantage of Kingslayer vs. Sunking.
Please don't get me wrong, this is not a complaint or anything, I'm just a little confused since the sunking seems to have a lot of new options.
Again: Kudos!

Quote from: upthepunxxx on April 28, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
I'm still new to the whole PCB build idea. When it says PCB mount for the pots, does that mean I should get right angle PCB mount pots? From looking at the layout on the build document, that seems to make the most sense. I am having trouble trying to visualize using straight pcb mount pots? Does that make sense? Apologies if this is common knowledge, just want to make sure I can use the pots to hold the board in place. I'm probably gonna order screw stand­off hardware from Small bear as well.

yes, that's exactly what it means. It just makes everything pretty neat since you don't have to run wires around the enclosure. on the down side you have to drill really exact or the pots won't fit -> DRILL PRESS

Sweet! Thank you so much for getting back to me. Right angle Pcb pots it is then! And luckily I do own a drill press! Pretty and neat is what I strive for. Well that and tone, but you know how that goes.


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Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: icecycle66 on April 29, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
What the heck are all those numbers on the Sunking drill template?
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 29, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
A secret message.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: icecycle66 on April 29, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: madbean on April 29, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
A secret message.

Damn you.  Now I will obsess over such a thing.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: midwayfair on April 29, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: icecycle66 on April 29, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: madbean on April 29, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
A secret message.

Damn you.  Now I will obsess over such a thing.

No need, someone already decoded it (it's replacement -1).
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Clayford on April 29, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
come have a look (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=15190).
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: icecycle66 on April 29, 2014, 05:14:50 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on April 29, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
Quote from: icecycle66 on April 29, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: madbean on April 29, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
A secret message.

Damn you.  Now I will obsess over such a thing.

No need, someone already decoded it (it's replacement -1).

Thank you kindly.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 30, 2014, 12:25:15 AM
The final project doc, the Deadringer 2, has been uploaded. I will be working on orders through the night and except to ship everything tomorrow. Thanks for your patience, guys! This was quite a doozie.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: artstomp on April 30, 2014, 01:18:52 AM
....wooooah..tnx Brian..that Deadringer2 is a beauty..perfect..just what i needed..tnx again
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: icecycle66 on April 30, 2014, 01:22:49 AM
I look forward to the release of your build docs like "normal" people look forward to books or movies.
I like reading them even if I don't even plan on building it.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: artstomp on April 30, 2014, 01:32:56 AM
...same here icecycle66...i love to read them even if im not building them...i have a printed compilation of madbean projects...and everytime a take a poooh...i read them..haha..
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on April 30, 2014, 01:47:04 AM
Dump Docs?

Well, I'm glad you guys appreciate them. I feel like they are getting a lot better.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: artstomp on April 30, 2014, 02:00:47 AM
..i really appreciate it Brian..putting so much time on the projects Docs...i love 'em that's why i printed and binded them...i learned so much just by looking at the schematics...must have been those sprinkled beans dust!...tnx again
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Tremster on April 30, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
This seems like the right switch alternative for the Deadringer:
http://www.musikding.de/Mini-rotary-switch-2P4T (http://www.musikding.de/Mini-rotary-switch-2P4T)
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: brejna on April 30, 2014, 10:47:02 AM
Quote from: Tremster on April 30, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
This seems like the right switch alternative for the Deadringer:
http://www.musikding.de/Mini-rotary-switch-2P4T (http://www.musikding.de/Mini-rotary-switch-2P4T)

or even this one
http://www.musikding.de/Print-rotary-switch-1P4T (http://www.musikding.de/Print-rotary-switch-1P4T)
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Tremster on April 30, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
Oh. Thanks. Hadn't even seen that one, duh.
Will this work and fit?
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: brejna on April 30, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
I think it should fit, they are about same size.. and you need just one pole for deadringer2
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Tremster on April 30, 2014, 11:32:33 AM
Cool. I was already panicking.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on April 30, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Brian,
Thanks for these, I've been awaiting a few. 

One quick note, on the last sentence of the first page of the Sunking II, I think it should read:
"This means it is not a direct copy of the Klong, and I do NOT represent it as such."

Not that it really matters...or maybe it does. 
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on May 01, 2014, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: Jabulani Jonny on April 30, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Brian,
Thanks for these, I've been awaiting a few. 

One quick note, on the last sentence of the first page of the Sunking II, I think it should read:
"This means it is not a direct copy of the Klong, and I do NOT represent it as such."

Not that it really matters...or maybe it does.

It only matters in the sense that if you follow some of the ridiculous threads on TGP concerning the Klon, people argue until they are blue in the face over what a "Klone" is and whether or are they truly are the "Klon". I'm circumventing any bro-hah-hah that will inevitably take place once a Sunking2 build shows up on TGP by stating it is not a Klon copy...it is a Klone, which is a variation of the Klon. And, I outline the reasons for this in the doc notes. Consider it a "CYA" statement, nothing more.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on May 01, 2014, 07:13:24 PM
Yeah i understand that's what you're trying to say, but your sentence is missing the "Not" that I highlighted. Sorry, I know it's a bit anal.


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Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on May 01, 2014, 07:24:22 PM
Oops, that is a dumb error on my part. Thanks for the correction. I will re-up the corrected pdf.

:-[
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: Tremster on May 19, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
Ha, have you seen the new Earthquaker Overdrive:
http://earthquakerdevices.com/shop/palisades/#tab-description (http://earthquakerdevices.com/shop/palisades/#tab-description)
Looks like they had a similar idea as on the Deadringer with the rotary switches.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: madbean on May 20, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
Cool! I really like EQD and that looks pretty sweet.
Title: Re: 04.24 Releases - additional info
Post by: upthepunxxx on June 13, 2014, 06:29:38 AM
I saw a cool demo on it, I think it was pro guitar shop and it looked pretty bitchin!

Quote from: madbean on May 20, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
Cool! I really like EQD and that looks pretty sweet.