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Title: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on February 28, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
I am working on the Chimarea and I am have problems finding wiring instructions on the pedal, has anyone put this kit together before?  I got mine from mammoth electronics.

Thanks
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: mgwhit on February 28, 2015, 02:58:50 AM
Do you just need the Build Document (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28586266/GCFX%20Build%20Docs/Chimaera_BFD_Build.pdf)?  I realize that it doesn't have a full wiring diagram, but the footswitch is explained on page 3.  If you don't need a battery, just connect the tip of your input jack to the Input pad, the tip of your output jack to the Output pad, +9V and ground from your power jack to the 9V and G pads.  Then connect the sleeve of one of your jacks (by convention Input, but it doesn't matter) to another one of the G pads -- preferably the one closest to the jack.

If you want a battery, it's slightly more complicated, but you might be able to figure it out by looking at the Madbean Standard Wiring Diagram (http://madbeanpedals.com/tutorials/downloads/StandardWiring_MBP.pdf), which shows how to wire up a true bypass pedal with a 3PDT switch.  Just ignore the footswitch wiring and remember that you're using the board as your central ground point, not the footswitch.  Connect the positive battery wire to the switched lug on the power jack and the battery ground wire to the ring lug of a stereo input jack.  Good luck, and let us know if you have trouble working it out.

Edit: I just noticed that there was an earlier version of this board that was true bypass (i.e. not buffered).  If that's what you've got, just use the Madbean standard wiring diagram.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on February 28, 2015, 03:56:35 PM
Thanks! I have the building diagram and I am certain on the footswitch on how to wire that up, but on the input jack one has three connections and the other jack has two.  Does it matter what pin i select to ground and for the input? Does the jack that has three connections go to anything?  I hope I am explaining myself correctly, sorry if I am butchering the verbiage
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on February 28, 2015, 04:03:58 PM
Are you talking the actual jack itself that you have in your hand that has 3 connections? The board itself has an in and an out and about 3 ground pads.


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on February 28, 2015, 05:05:00 PM
Yes the actual jack itself
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on February 28, 2015, 05:41:05 PM
Ah gotcha. Unless you're using a battery, a stereo input jack isn't necessary. Are you using a battery?


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: mgwhit on February 28, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
Quote from: foochild on February 28, 2015, 03:56:35 PM
on the input jack one has three connections and the other jack has two.  Does it matter what pin i select to ground and for the input? Does the jack that has three connections go to anything?

Yes, it certainly matters which lug you use for input!  The Input has to come from the lug with continuity to the tip of the cable plug.  You can confirm this with a multimeter, or you can just look at the wiring diagram I pointed to.

As for ground on the stereo jack, I suppose that's up to you, but I would recommend you do it like the standard diagram and use the lug connected to the sleeve.  It's convention and anyone looking at your pedal will understand what you've done.  It will also mean that the enclosure is always grounded, whether or not a cable is plugged into the input jack.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 01, 2015, 10:09:07 PM
Thanks guys for all the help.  I have everything now wired up and on the footswitch I noticed that Grind Customs shows soldering a resistor on foot switch 4 5 6, have you guys used this method before?
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: mgwhit on March 01, 2015, 11:18:25 PM
Do you know if you have a version of the Chimaera board that has buffered bypass or one that uses true bypass?  The 2PDT switch with the two resistors is for the buffered bypass version.  If you don't have the S1-S6 pads along the bottom of your PCB, then I think you have one that should use true bypass.  Does your board say "Grind Customs Chimaera", "Chimaera TB v3" or "Chimaera BFD v3" along the bottom?
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 03, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
It shows the BFD v3.1, I have it wired up now but no sound and the light is not even coming on, I ran it with 9v and I can feel the capacitors heating up but no sound. 
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 03, 2015, 08:39:28 PM
Sounds like it's time for pictures of both sides clearly lit


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: mgwhit on March 03, 2015, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: foochild on March 03, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
It shows the BFD v3.1, I have it wired up now but no sound and the light is not even coming on, I ran it with 9v and I can feel the capacitors heating up but no sound.

Okay, if it's the BFD, then it's the buffered bypass and should use a 2PDT (or a 3PDT wired like a 2PDT) footswitch with the on-switch resistor wiring as shown in the build doc.  Of course that build doc says v3.  Fingers crossed v3.1 didn't move the resistors to the PCB.

I agree with Jimi -- good (i.e. large, in-focus, well-lit) pictures of both sides of the PCB would be a huge help.  Also, please post the voltages on each pin of your ICs.  Please let us know if you need help with that.  Good luck!

Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 12:47:06 AM
These are the photos I have so far, I'll keep uploading the ones I have.  I do not have the voltage yet
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 12:48:19 AM
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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 12:51:19 AM
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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 12:56:46 AM
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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 12:58:46 AM
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Title: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 04, 2015, 01:15:46 AM
Looks like your 9v maybe grounding out in the back of that pot and you're missing some serious solder on several components. Go back a reflow the solder rough the pads.
And the stomp is numbered
1  4. 7
2. 5. 8
3. 6. 9
Your stomp should be wired on lugs 1-6


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 01:34:10 AM
Thanks!  I give all that a try.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 04, 2015, 02:16:50 AM
light is now on with pedal but no sound yet
Title: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 04, 2015, 03:14:53 AM
Quote from: foochild on March 04, 2015, 02:16:50 AM
light is now on with pedal but no sound yet
also I couldn't help but notice you're missing a couple of ge diodes


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: mgwhit on March 04, 2015, 03:18:07 AM
Your 3PDT footswitch is wired incorrectly.  You need to rotate that 90 degrees and rewire accordingly.
Title: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: billstein on March 04, 2015, 03:44:55 AM
R15 and R28 seem to be missing ( haven't checked the build instructions to see if there's a reason for that). Check all your IC's to make sure they're the right way. Also, I've had a leg on an IC fold under when I was inserting it. Make sure they're all inserted.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 04, 2015, 03:46:41 AM
Quote from: mgwhit on March 04, 2015, 03:18:07 AM
Your 3PDT footswitch is wired incorrectly.  You need to rotate that 90 degrees and rewire accordingly.
nice catch, I can't believe I missed that.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: billstein on March 04, 2015, 04:11:23 AM

Quote from: jimilee on March 04, 2015, 01:15:46 AM
Looks like your 9v maybe grounding out in the back of that pot and you're missing some serious solder on several components. Go back a reflow the solder.

Just saw those first two photos. There are some components that look like they have no solder at all. So, fix the stomp switch and reflow all your solder. Also trim back the frayed wires on the soldered side. They may be touching other components.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 05, 2015, 12:15:03 PM
Thanks! I went back and resoldered and made sure the wires were not touching, adjusted the footswitch and the R15 and R 28 were not included in parts I received.  I plugged pedal back in and when pedal is not on sound goes through fine, when I activate pedal sound is coming through but very low and the only knob that works is the volume knob, when i turn it to the right about 12 o'clock its louder but when I turn it to the right as far as it can go it goes back down in volume.  High gain knob and tone are not working.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 05, 2015, 12:37:04 PM
Nicely done, you're well on your way now! The ge diodes that are missing are clipping diodes, that's what makes the distortion. Those are going to be important as well as the two resistors. Contact mammoth and let them know parts were missing.


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 05, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
Thank you sir, I appreciate it. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 05, 2015, 02:55:37 PM
Absolutely happy to help out. If they don't comply, I can send you what you need, just let me know.


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 05, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
Thanks, I'll let you know. Where do you get your parts from?
Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: jimilee on March 05, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
Really different places, mammoth, blms, tayda, chromesphere and one other place whose name escapes me


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Title: Re: Grind Custom - Chimarea
Post by: foochild on March 05, 2015, 04:38:16 PM
Thanks


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