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Title: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: upthepunxxx on July 24, 2014, 12:54:38 AM
I was poking around and reading some old threads on wire strippers, and was going to comment on some of them but I realized the posts were a couple years old. Anyways I have some decent (or at least I thought they were decent) Klein strippers I bought from Pacific Radio http://www.pacrad.com/tools-cases/blades-cutters/cutter-stripper-klein-tools-11055.html

It seems like they are already dull, is that possible? Or is it more likely that something is up with my technique? I mean its stripping wire right? If I am doing that wrong I may have to throw in the towel! Just curious if you guys replace strippers a lot or are you still using the same pair your granpappy's granpappy gave you?

Stay Punk!
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: JamesM on July 24, 2014, 01:20:27 AM
That's strange.  Mine are pretty darn old and have never given me any issues.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: Maple Larynx on July 24, 2014, 12:53:12 PM
It could be your wire gauge.  The model you linked to covers 12 - 20 awg where the typical pedal wire is around 22 - 28 awg.  Those strippers weren't designed to strip the smaller wire.  You'll want to get a stripper that gets down to 26 or 28 awg or is 'automatic'.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: rullywowr on July 24, 2014, 01:07:23 PM
+1 for the automatic stripmaster. Love it and it has replaceable cutters too down the line. I supplement that with a $5 pair of yellow handle cheap ones.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: pickdropper on July 24, 2014, 01:30:37 PM
I like the Ideal Stripmaster as well.  It's so important to me that I bought a second one as a backup.  I'd be really frustrated if I had to go back to a manual wire stripper.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: upthepunxxx on July 24, 2014, 04:25:30 PM
Yea sorry man I forget to mention that. I have the same set that looks just like those, but go from like 22-32 awg. Pacific Radio didn't have that gauge size on their site when I was posting yesterday. I use 24 gauge stranded pre bond from small bear. You ever used those Klenk strippers? http://www.amazon.com/DA76070-KLENK-Wire-Cutter-Stripper-Small/dp/B0007ZKMU6

Quote from: Maple Larynx on July 24, 2014, 12:53:12 PM
It could be your wire gauge.  The model you linked to covers 12 - 20 awg where the typical pedal wire is around 22 - 28 awg.  Those strippers weren't designed to strip the smaller wire.  You'll want to get a stripper that gets down to 26 or 28 awg or is 'automatic'.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: wgc on July 24, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
Sometimes they get bent at the hinge point.  Telltale sign is a little round wear spot on the blade.  You might be able to bend it back, but probably another vote for the automatic ones.  They work great, but I only have the yellow cheapies.  Looking to avoid lots of wire in the future anyway!
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: upthepunxxx on July 24, 2014, 06:52:12 PM
Thanks man. Looks like I'm gonna have to check out the automatic strippers now for sure. I'll take a peak at my current one as well and see if there is a wear spot. Have you tried those KLENK ones? I watched a video on an old post and they looked amazing? Didnt know if it was the real deal or not.

Quote from: wgc on July 24, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
Sometimes they get bent at the hinge point.  Telltale sign is a little round wear spot on the blade.  You might be able to bend it back, but probably another vote for the automatic ones.  They work great, but I only have the yellow cheapies.  Looking to avoid lots of wire in the future anyway!
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: Maple Larynx on July 24, 2014, 06:59:53 PM
I am definitely not a high volume builder.  I recently started using these: 
(http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/102-20468-2-4748/330013+low.jpg)

And previously used these: 
(http://store.curiousinventor.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/wire_cutter_stripper_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: alanp on July 25, 2014, 06:10:53 AM
I recently went from sidecutters for stripping (after more than a year... the only stripper I had previous was only suitable for building amps) to getting a pair of strippers that can do 20-24 gauge. Bit of a revelation!
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: muddyfox on July 25, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
Funny you should mention it. I have 11057 (not 11055) and lately I've been noticing that it doesn't strip as easily as it used to. It's only a year old and I don't build a lot so it really should hold up better, methinks?

Now, this Stripmaster... I see it's 10-22, does it work on Barry's wire that's rated at 24?

EDIT: OK, I see they also have all sorts of versions. Which one do you guys use?

Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: pickdropper on July 25, 2014, 12:27:03 PM
I use the 16-26 AWG Stripmaster.  It hits most everything I need for pedals.

It doesn't work for Kynar wire for PCBs, but that's about all I do that it won't cover.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: muddyfox on July 25, 2014, 12:43:40 PM

Thanks!

So that would be a 45-097.... now, to find a store that ships to Europe...  ::)
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: alanp on July 25, 2014, 04:23:30 PM
I included my recent strippers in a Seeed order. (Partly through idly browsing their webstore.)
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: muddyfox on July 25, 2014, 09:46:48 PM
huh... i never would have figured to look there, the best i found so far is $32 plus $45 shipping to europe. even if it is kinda bulky an heavy, $45 is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: upthepunxxx on July 25, 2014, 09:48:19 PM
Weird right? They were by no means really expensive, but they were definitely a price point or 2 above basic adjustable radio shack strippers. About a year is when I started to notice the trouble they started giving me. I was cautious to post about it cause it seemed silly, but apparently Im not the only one. Now I need to decide whether to buy some of these Stripmasters or submit to my laziness and ride these things till the handles fall off...

Quote from: muddyfox on July 25, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
Funny you should mention it. I have 11057 (not 11055) and lately I've been noticing that it doesn't strip as easily as it used to. It's only a year old and I don't build a lot so it really should hold up better, methinks?

Now, this Stripmaster... I see it's 10-22, does it work on Barry's wire that's rated at 24?

EDIT: OK, I see they also have all sorts of versions. Which one do you guys use?
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: pickdropper on July 25, 2014, 11:24:30 PM

Quote from: muddyfox on July 25, 2014, 09:46:48 PM
huh... i never would have figured to look there, the best i found so far is $32 plus $45 shipping to europe. even if it is kinda bulky an heavy, $45 is ridiculous.

$32 is reasonable for the strippers, but $45 is insane.  Have you checked eBay?  The last set I got from there was new and considerably less than that.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: Haberdasher on July 25, 2014, 11:43:43 PM
my klein 11057 seem as sharp as the day i bought them 3 or 4 years ago.  i'm having no problems whatsoever.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: upthepunxxx on July 26, 2014, 01:46:28 AM
It's still extremely possible that I either got a dud or I simply don't have a decent technique down.

Quote from: Haberdasher on July 25, 2014, 11:43:43 PM
my klein 11057 seem as sharp as the day i bought them 3 or 4 years ago.  i'm having no problems whatsoever.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: upthepunxxx on July 26, 2014, 01:47:23 AM
More than likely the latter  :-[

Quote from: upthepunxxx on July 26, 2014, 01:46:28 AM
It's still extremely possible that I either got a dud or I simply don't have a decent technique down.

Quote from: Haberdasher on July 25, 2014, 11:43:43 PM
my klein 11057 seem as sharp as the day i bought them 3 or 4 years ago.  i'm having no problems whatsoever.
Title: Re: Kleine Wire Strippers (How long do yours last?)
Post by: muddyfox on July 26, 2014, 05:52:02 AM

Quote from: pickdropper on July 25, 2014, 11:24:30 PM

$32 is reasonable for the strippers, but $45 is insane.  Have you checked eBay?  The last set I got from there was new and considerably less than that.

that was the first place i looked, :)
no dice, the cheaper ones dont ship inernationally and the ones that do charge a kidney for it.
not to mention that many us online stores have a $150 or a $200 or a $300 order minimum for intl orders.
ill keep looking...