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Title: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on December 06, 2013, 04:47:16 AM
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/phabrd_zps028bdcd0.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/phabrd_zps028bdcd0.jpg.html)

Bin working on this. The portion of vero you can see is the only part I actually did in vero, in the end. The rest I laid out in Eagle (Rullywowr, you're not allowed to say anything nasty about my boards ;) ) with boardmounted 9mm pots.

Hangingmonkey should recognise some of this.

As it is, I need to make orders with Tayda, Smallbear and Mouser. Which may not happen fast, due to the time of year. I'm not expecting to make any progress on this until new year, but I wanted to show (off) what I'm up to :D

What is it? The world's most insane phaser. Digi2T is a purveyor of solder gas inflaming video on YT.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: jubal81 on December 06, 2013, 04:55:20 AM
OOOoooOOO. I like where this is going. Optical phasers are the balls.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Bret608 on December 06, 2013, 03:17:03 PM
This isn't his Infinitphase, is it? That is nuts...
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: midwayfair on December 06, 2013, 03:45:01 PM
lo-og, lo-og, it's better than bad, it's good!

This looks like it should be very fun.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: rullywowr on December 06, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Quote from: alanp on December 06, 2013, 04:47:16 AM
The rest I laid out in Eagle (Rullywowr, you're not allowed to say anything nasty about my boards ;) ) with boardmounted 9mm pots.
(http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/phabrd_zps028bdcd0.jpg.html)

They look pretty nice...for an Eagle layout!  ;D

Seriously, nice job...the layouts look great and looking forward to seeing/hearing the result.  You always come up with some crazy awesome projects like the lovetone stuff etc.  It's inspiring.  :)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on December 13, 2013, 07:00:17 AM
Cocked up. I put 9mm pots instead of 14mm for the lit sequencer pots.

So now it's wait for OSH, again.
Title: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Hangingmonkey on January 26, 2014, 08:02:11 PM
Quote from: alanp on December 06, 2013, 04:47:16 AM


Hangingmonkey should recognise some of this.


Yep, i do indeed.  I only came across the post while browsing today. I havent done much more since i posted my work in progress on diysb.  Ended up waiting for parts and then getting side tracked on other projects as i usually do. Need to get back on focus with this one once the present batch are completed...

Good look with that one alan, cant wait to see how it turns out
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on March 17, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hw17-3-14_zps78fa2af7.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hw17-3-14_zps78fa2af7.jpg.html)

My OSH boards finally turned up. I decided to do the main audio board, instead of the vero. Less work.

Slight muck-up with two of the lit pots. Not worried enough to fix 'em.

Just need to order the 9mm pots for the LFO and audio boards, now :)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: LaceSensor on March 17, 2014, 09:59:50 AM
Look like a absolutely nuts project. Good luck with it dude
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Thomas_H on March 17, 2014, 11:42:50 AM
Thats a little insane - welcome to my world  ;D
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Leevibe on March 18, 2014, 01:34:04 AM
Right on! I think an analog synth will feel like a piece of cake after this. :)

What do you plan to use for the enclosure?
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on March 18, 2014, 04:14:27 AM
Got a Hammond 1456KL3 (I think), angled front aluminium/steel case :)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Leevibe on March 18, 2014, 05:03:09 AM
That looks like a pretty hoss case. Should do the trick. Very cool man
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on April 13, 2014, 08:35:42 AM
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwphau_zpsa6d209ee.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwphau_zpsa6d209ee.jpg.html)

Spent some time sniffing solder -- I found two 9mm 100kB pots, got the rest on order from Tayda right now. The main audio board just needs wires run to it. What I think of as the 'phase engine' board just needs wires, plus LDR adjustment (either closer or further away from the LEDs, to even 'em out.) I've left off a resistor/cap combo, as I plan on running wires to them for the 4/8 stage switch (didn't design it in when I laid out the board.)

The rest of the pots are on order from Tayda, once they turn up it's just a matter of wire wrangling. Lots of wire wrangling.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: juansolo on April 13, 2014, 08:43:47 AM
Bonkers...  :o

I like it!  8)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: wgc on April 13, 2014, 01:59:24 PM
Very cool! 

Did you consider using headers to join the pcbs? It would take some layout doing, but could save a lot of wiring.

Too bad osh park doesn't offer semi rigid flex...    ;)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: pickdropper on April 13, 2014, 02:08:20 PM
Alan, you've been working with Eagle for a while now, I think it's time for you to take on some more ambitious projects.   ;D

Looks like it's going to be beautiful madness.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: nzCdog on April 13, 2014, 08:06:01 PM
omg....  crazy coolness Al... you need a name for your wild pedal laboratory methinks! 8)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on April 14, 2014, 03:42:56 AM
Quote from: wgc on April 13, 2014, 01:59:24 PM
Did you consider using headers to join the pcbs? It would take some layout doing, but could save a lot of wiring.

Good idea -- I ordered some female-female cable stuff from Tayda, and I'll solder pin headers onto the boards. Should make wiring it up a bit easier, and I can always tape down the cable connectors.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on April 29, 2014, 07:20:24 AM
wgc, I ran with your header idea.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwlfoworks_zps4283a56d.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwlfoworks_zps4283a56d.jpg.html)

There was a schematic error -- the Prophecysound PDF does not make it clear whether two crossing lines are a junction, or not. So that's why the Stanley knife is on the bench -- patches were also needed on the back of the LFO board. The oscilloscope is really, really necessary when troubleshooting this kind of thing -- you can probe where the triangle output should be, and see exactly what you've got. (Audio probes aren't much help, I think, in an LFO situation.)

I made a power distribution board, with the header wires going to that for power. (Two sets of wires from the PSU board, as the signal and control power and ground is kept separate.

It was very, very cool seeing the lit up pots sweep back and forth like KITT, or jump around, depending on the LFO controls! Next order of business is the audio boards -- I still need to solder up the 4/8 stage switch on the phase engine board, which I have a mild case of CBF with. Tonight, at least.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: wgc on April 29, 2014, 12:42:38 PM
Awesome! Glad the headers are helping Alan
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on April 30, 2014, 07:02:07 AM
Who has phase? This guy does!

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwdeadbug_zps99b48a4a.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwdeadbug_zps99b48a4a.jpg.html)

It works! The insane board count is chiefly to get around Eagle's size limitation. I need to socket the LDR's and replace them with a matching set -- there is a noticeable dip in the sweep, midway. Either that or I need more bench time with my oscilloscope to tune the LFO in. The 4/8 switch is wired in, but the fast/slow switch is not, yet.

Night shot: (the rate was fast enough that the camera caught several pots during the travel....) bottom lights are the lit up pots, top constellation is the phase engine board.

The sweeping, lit up pots are very sexy.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwdarkfast_zpsaac65adb.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwdarkfast_zpsaac65adb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: the3secondrule on April 30, 2014, 08:16:30 AM
I don't know what this is, but you had me at phase....
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on April 30, 2014, 09:04:15 AM


It is actually a LOT cleaner than the video suggests -- a +15V to -15V gives you a lot of swing. Skip to 3:20 for the first bit of playing -- this one needs a fair bit of explaining.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on June 02, 2014, 06:13:15 AM
Got the box drilled up. Except for two bloody switch holes  :-[ :-[ and I need to replace the LDR's with matched ones.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwbox_zps0e4aeaa5.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwbox_zps0e4aeaa5.jpg.html)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwunder_zpsdb853994.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwunder_zpsdb853994.jpg.html)

Not gonna bother tidying the wires or painting it until I have (thus the masking tape'd control labels, plus I'll put some 1900H's on it then.)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: LaceSensor on June 02, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: wgc on June 02, 2014, 12:21:31 PM
Yowza!  Awesome stuff here
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: pickdropper on June 02, 2014, 12:40:31 PM
Wow, what are you going to add for the deluxe version?
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Hangingmonkey on June 02, 2014, 01:06:34 PM
Wow, total awesomeness. Where can I get me one of those enclosures?
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on June 02, 2014, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on June 02, 2014, 12:40:31 PM
Wow, what are you going to add for the deluxe version?

Decent labelling ;)

Manas, it's a Hammond 1456KL3, IIRC (could be wrong, it's like 5am here.)
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Hangingmonkey on June 02, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
Thanks Alan, I'll check it out. I was going to ask about the lack of LEDs on there but looking more closely, they look like led lit pots which is a great idea.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: alanp on June 15, 2014, 04:57:31 AM
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwbox_zpsfd1a37ba.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwbox_zpsfd1a37ba.jpg.html)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/Gutstwohand/hwgutshot_zps95aeb516.jpg) (http://s163.photobucket.com/user/Gutstwohand/media/hwgutshot_zps95aeb516.jpg.html)

Dead cool.

Lots of work.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: Hangingmonkey on June 15, 2014, 07:45:07 AM
Holy crap!!!!  Great work Alan. I need to get back to my vero version sometime. It's been sitting in a box for the last year
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: selfdestroyer on June 15, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
By the power of grey skull!

That is insane.

Cody
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: m-Kresol on June 15, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
I demand a demo!

Congrats on another freakishly complicated build.
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: wgc on June 15, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
Wow, now that's a build!  Great stuff Alan!
Title: Re: Log - Heavy Water
Post by: LaceSensor on June 15, 2014, 07:44:31 PM
you need some cable ties and little sticky foam backed cable tie anchors FTW

killer effort and build tho