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Title: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 04, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
Hey again dear forumites!

Another "finally boxed and done one" :), I proudly play the THRONE TONE!

This is raulduke SJ Effects' Prince Albert / RAH. Very much worth building. If a box can be soulful, this one certainly is. Very human/sensitive tone out of this one. It kinda plays what i play, just with some added expression.

Cheers!

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10190945/Throne%20Tone/20130604_205042.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10190945/Throne%20Tone/20130604_204929.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10190945/Throne%20Tone/20130604_204936.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: GrindCustoms on June 04, 2013, 07:20:42 PM
Really nice!

One of my favorite dirt circuit, that i've discovered using Steve board. 8)
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: midwayfair on June 04, 2013, 09:31:20 PM
Heh, awesome name. Excellent build as well.
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: raulduke on June 04, 2013, 10:26:40 PM
Nice build dude!

Always good to see those Prince Albert builds!
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 05, 2013, 04:34:35 AM
Thanx guys:)
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: alanp on June 05, 2013, 05:37:43 AM
Dude... dude... where are your trademark superfluous umlauts?

More seriously, tasty looking build :)
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 05, 2013, 06:36:00 AM
Quote from: alanp on June 05, 2013, 05:37:43 AM
Dude... dude... where are your trademark superfluous umlauts?

More seriously, tasty looking build :)

Theyre hidden ünder the clöüds!!

Thanx düde!
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: pickdropper on June 05, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
Nice looking build.  I like the etch.
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: eldanko on June 05, 2013, 01:58:48 PM
Excellent build, mate! I love this circuit... I use it as my solo boost at every gig... just throws the guitar out front beautifully!

Er, not in the sense that Prince "throws the guitar out front"... metaphorically speaking... heh
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 06, 2013, 05:48:29 AM
Thank you pickdropper and eldanko:)

***

I played this box at rehearsal (loud as in opposite to practice / testing at home..) yesterday, and it turned out really great.

Cheers
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: billstein on June 06, 2013, 07:38:13 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on June 05, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
Nice looking build.  I like the etch.

Wow! I thought it was a water slide. Great etch! Is that a transparent paint over it?
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 06, 2013, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: billstein on June 06, 2013, 07:38:13 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on June 05, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
Nice looking build.  I like the etch.

Wow! I thought it was a water slide. Great etch! Is that a transparent paint over it?

Ah sorry. No, it is a waterslide. My brain must have translated pickdroppers post as "nice layout work" or similar:)

As i no look at the pics, they actually look a bit etched, as the letters are a bit reliefed (correct word?). And i have seen two-colored etches (transparent paint over black) around here, but i dont manage that technique myself.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: pickdropper on June 06, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
Yeah, that third picture had me fooled.  It looked etched and filled to me.
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Cortexturizer on June 06, 2013, 01:05:09 PM
Wonderful wonderful build man! You achieved so much with so little graphics-wise, I'm diggin' it.

On a side note - is there any real advantage of having a dc jack so low in the enclosure, just beside the footswitch?
I always tend to put mine as far as possible form the input/output jacks and pots...cause I think pedals tend to have less noise that way, certainly less hum in some of the fuzzes I've built.
If you put a dc jack on top, yeah, you will most likely have a long ground wire going to the footswitch [for the LED] that can act as an antenna and soak some noise into the ground if not placed carefully, but I always choose this "method"...
What are everyones thoughts on this?
I am sorry to derail the thread man, if you mind, I'll open another, it's just that I happened to think about this while I was looking at your gorgeous build.
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 06, 2013, 01:57:56 PM
Thanx Cortexurizer. Glad to read that you like the graphics. :)

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About groundwiring; This time i used (for the first time actually) a "3pdt board", which is comfortable when it comes to soldering and offboard wiring. Thats why the DC jack is placed where it is. Mostly (an example here: http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=9859.0 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=9859.0)) i place the DC jack on top. The advantage of that technique is - to me - when you use the box, "shorter way to the wallwart". Downside is - obviously - more messy cables inside the box. Also, as you can see in that example, i connect all grounds to only one point (in this case: the input jack). That should be more important than an inch or two more on the involved ground wire lengths to avoid ground loops. There is one exception from the "one ground-point-rule" above though; the output jack is grounded in the enclosure AND by wire to the input jack. I do that for safety reasons; if the jack nut will accidently loosen it will cause bad ground and noise/crackle if its not "backupped" with a solder wire.

...thats how i mostly think.

...and no, i havent got any problems with the "subject drifting" towards a grounding discussion. I rather welcome it as ive been pondering about it as well. If someone will search for the subject in - say - 6 month, it maybe will be harder to find it in here though. Maybe its hard to find it in here today too:)

Cheers
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Cortexturizer on June 06, 2013, 03:04:41 PM
Yeah, great stuff Bengt, cheers man! :))
I wasn't blabbering that much about grounding as much I was about humming, and just...zZzzZZzzz noise. That's why I put my dc jacks really far from input/output and pots cause it minimizes this, from my experience at least. It would be so good having a sticky topic on good practice wiring in regards to specific types of effects and specific parts of those circuits.
For example, "don't put your Gain pot right next to the Input jack" etc...
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: ch1naski on June 07, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
great looking build, man.
I keep meaning to build this circuit, but...... but... i dunno, what am i waiting for? I've heard it really only likes humbuckers.... i wonder if it would be good with old p-90's?
Title: Re: Throne Tone (SJ Effects Prince Albert / RAH)
Post by: Vallhagen on June 07, 2013, 11:54:13 AM
Ch1naski: thanx man! I actually only have humbuckers on My two guitars (à xaviere lp with dimarzio super3, and an ibanez rg-something with original mics). But hopefully someone around here sits on The combo RAH-single coil as reference?

Cortexturizer: i think we talk about à dilemma on The same side of The coin really. To avoid hum n bzzz we need clever placement of stuff and proper grounding n shielding. Sometimes filtering too, but that should be covered in The circuit design. I surely could appreciate a sticky on that subject, as There  is both some black magic n Hands on experience out there:).

Cheers!