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Title: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: hylandren on August 05, 2013, 11:38:14 PM
Greetings from Noobville. I am the mayor.
I have been a member of another forum for a little while, but just joined this one as well. I am looking forward to learning all I can. I only have 2 builds under my belt. They are a Confidence Boost and a 250+ clone:

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/micro_burst/1.MB_Main.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/micro_burst/2.MB_Full_Side.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/micro_burst/3.MB_open_lid_gut.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/micro_burst/4.MB_dual_gut.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/rocket_booster/1.RB_main.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/rocket_booster/2.RB_Top_CL.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/rocket_booster/5.RB_Flame_CL.jpg)

(http://www.jnoeding.com/pedals/rocket_booster/4.RB_dual_gut.jpg)




Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: croquet hoop on August 06, 2013, 12:21:56 AM
I love the brushed look on the 1590A, what grain of sandpaper did you use to get that ? (fairly coarse, I imagine)

Very nice builds otherwise, you're off to a great start!
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: slimtriggers on August 06, 2013, 01:42:42 AM
I love the detail in the flame!  Care to share how you did that?  I'm guessing some very careful Dremeling?

Very cool stuff 8)
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: icecycle66 on August 06, 2013, 01:49:25 AM
That's the best kind of heavy.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: lincolnic on August 06, 2013, 03:09:03 AM
Dude, these builds are great! The gouged-out rocket flame LED is brilliant.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: jimilee on August 06, 2013, 04:04:23 AM
These are smooth!
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: alanp on August 06, 2013, 05:33:40 AM
Someone who has a 1590A under his belt as either first or second build doesn't qualify as noob-ish, to my mind ;)

Very nice work! The wire wrangling comes with experience, mine looked like spaghetti (and still do to a certain extent, compared to Pickdropper.)
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: DutchMF on August 06, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Very, very nice! And also a compliment on your photography, those are some sharp pics!

Paul
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: Stomptown on August 06, 2013, 05:55:05 AM
Beautifully done! As nentioned the rocket flame is very cool and originsl. I would've thought you'd been at this a few years now. You should enter one of these in the August build off!

Jon
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: hoodoo on August 06, 2013, 06:53:18 AM
Well you're off to a flying start mate ;D, great etches,tidy guts, Matt.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: fendman on August 06, 2013, 07:26:41 AM
Welcome to the forum....Those are two really nice builds, the rocket flame is a great addition. It would look like you are another top pedal maker in the making 8)

Great Work

Mike
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: Tremster on August 06, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
Haha. He said "Noob" and posted this.
I shouldn't post build reports myself anymore ...
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: steveperiod on August 06, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
yep, those etches look fan-freaking-tastic. care to share your method? did you use pnp blue or something else? they're so clean.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: jprizz on August 06, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
I'll just ditto everyone else here...

That's a hellofa first post!
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: jkokura on August 06, 2013, 03:38:08 PM
Noob level expert maybe...

Great work. The exteriors on both of those are really, really well done.

Jacob
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: DutchMF on August 06, 2013, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: Tremster on August 06, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
Haha. He said "Noob" and posted this.
I shouldn't post build reports myself anymore ...

I know how you feel, dude!

Paul
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: midwayfair on August 06, 2013, 04:00:59 PM
That rocket enclosure is fantastic.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: PhiloB on August 06, 2013, 04:54:32 PM
Love'm both.  What type of paint did you use on the flame?  I used some model car enamel paint but wasn't crazy about the results.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: hylandren on August 06, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
Thanks for the welcome and encouragement!
Sorry, but since I didn't even know how electricity worked about a year ago, I am definitely still a noob! My goal is to someday build a pedal on vero/perfboard from only a schematic. Hopefully, all in good time.

The 250+/RocketBooster flame was ground out with a dremel. I got the idea by sort of re-interpreting a rocket exhaust I saw on one of Nico's awesome pedals. The toughest part was cocking the LED just right, so most of the illumination hit the flame area (painted wirh Duplicolor Metalcast) instead of just going straight up into the air. A water clear LED with a narrow viewing angle LED was key.

C.B./Micro Burst: I might never have the skills to build a real mini, so since the C.B circuit is pretty small and simple, I figured I'd better go for it now! lol
The enclosure brushing was an attempt to simulate the tornado being in the driving rain. After the etching, painting, and then re-sanding, I drug it with 80 grit sandpaper. I messed it up at first and had to re-drag it to get it acceptable. As a result, the etch on that one is not very deep. You can tell, if you look closely in the black areas of the tornado. Live and learn. I also learned I should brush all the edges first, and then do the flats.   

Etching was pretty standard, using Illustrator, PNP, and warmed up Ferric Chloride. I go over everything I don't want etched with nail polish, because I hate accidental pits. My "etching heroes" seem to all use Inkscape and photo paper, but those didn't work for me. I may give the homemade etchant a try sometime, since its better for the environment and Guitarmagedon gets such consistently great results with it. I've heard its faster, too.
Many people say to set the iron to max heat setting, but the "polyester" setting works a lot better for me with the PNP.  The other thing is patience, I etch them for a looooong time. In fact, I accidentally left the Rocket Booster enclosure in way too long during the last dunk, and it was literally smoking when pulled it out! Lol I am etching the builds I am currently working, but as long as etching takes, my time might be better spent learning more about electronics. I may try painting or something faster for a while.

And yes, I do need to work on my wiring neatness! lol
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: das234 on August 07, 2013, 02:50:01 AM
Quote from: DutchMF on August 06, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Very, very nice! And also a compliment on your photography, those are some sharp pics!

Paul

Ditto the photography comment.  Those look like professionally staged pictures and the lighting is great.  As for the pedals, wow.  I'm about to undertake my first enclosure etch and I hope it turns out anywhere near as nice as those.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: billstein on August 12, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
Great builds. Also the photography is fantastic. Did you light those in a studio or did you drop them into background using something like Photoshop?

Also, love the Avatar. King of Queens is one of my favorite shows.  :)
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: croquet hoop on August 12, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
I can't say how hylandren did exactly, but to take that kind of pictures, indirect light (reflected/diffused) helps a lot. It would not be hard to make a lightbox large enough for a pedal (just google "DIY lightbox"); add two light sources, a tripod, and voilĂ .
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: Vallhagen on August 12, 2013, 09:07:04 PM
Delicious artistic outside work. Good precision inside.

Doesnt look much noobie to me:)

Cheers
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: hylandren on August 13, 2013, 10:03:32 AM
Thanks for the kind comments on both the build and the images.
The black background shots are just done on black plex, using 1 light going through a lighting scrim. No box, just a couple of reflector cards around the pedal. Its a pretty simple set up. There is a mistake in that on the side angle shot of the Micro burst, the top of the footswitch is almost black. I should have caught that.

While you could shoot them on white and then drop them into that background, creating shadows and especially the reflections in the glass would be way more work than just shooting it for real. I did use Photoshop to remove some dusts spots on the plex, and to take out cords for powering the LEDs. The gut shots are not so hot, but I was in a hurry. Afterward, I thought of a way to light gut shots faster & better, which I will do next time.

While writing this, it dawned on me that several of my favorite builders are also good photogs as well. Nico, Guitarmageddon and Basic Audio immediately come to mind. Interesting coincidence.
Title: Re: 1st & 2nd Build/ 3rd & 4th Etch (pic heavy)
Post by: billstein on August 13, 2013, 07:42:14 PM
The reason why I thought it might be PS is because of that rich dark shadow under the Micro Burst. I never thought of black plexi. Really nice. Unbelievable first builds.  :)