Hey guys.
after hours of work, finishing the graphics for my Sea urchin, it came out that the black graphics I made doesn't show clearly on the purple enclosure..
I know there is no white toner (at least easily available) but anyone have a suggestion in how to print a decal that will show more clearly?
thanks a lot ...
Take a look at my workaround here:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=10779.0
The light parts is handpainted with a Molotow-pen (Posca works the same).
Cheers
White waterslide works great for dark graphics on a dark enclosure.. Looks just like sticker paper.
Quote from: Vallhagen on October 24, 2013, 07:42:50 PM
Take a look at my workaround here:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=10779.0
The light parts is handpainted with a Molotow-pen (Posca works the same).
Cheers
hey, I remember your pedal. looks very nice!
but to do a handwriting thing, I will need to drink a couple of beers first...ehehhe
thanks mate
Quote from: jimilee on October 24, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
White waterslide works great for dark graphics on a dark enclosure.. Looks just like sticker paper.
hey Jimi lee.
im aware of that, the problem is that I need to match the background collor in order to don't appear around the graphics . the collor of the enclosure is the coolest thing and I don't want to cover it with a white backgoround..
thanks for the tip.
Depending on your graphic (if it's not TOO complicated or detailed) you could print it on plain paper, carefully cut out around the graphic and use that as a stencil to spray a white background wherever your graphic will be without spraying the whole enclosure. Does that make sense?
Something like Bengt has done, airbrushed white (then misted green) through a stencil where the decals were to go on a black enclosure.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/davent/IMG_2023.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/user/davent/media/IMG_2023.jpg.html)
dave
Quote from: das234 on October 24, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Depending on your graphic (if it's not TOO complicated or detailed) you could print it on plain paper, carefully cut out around the graphic and use that as a stencil to spray a white background wherever your graphic will be without spraying the whole enclosure. Does that make sense?
yes it makes sense. but my graphics have small and thin areas. it will be impossible to cut it.
I will try a silkscreen method. I have an UV curable paint that I use for solder mask and will paint a screen and cover with a transparency having my design. will let under the sun and see how it goes...
thanks for helping.
Quote from: davent on October 24, 2013, 10:02:57 PM
Something like Bengt has done, airbrushed white (then misted green) through a stencil where the decals were to go on a black enclosure.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/davent/IMG_2023.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/user/davent/media/IMG_2023.jpg.html)
dave
cool Dave. but I think I didn't get it how I've done. how did you control the green brush around the letters?
YES, that's what I'm envisioning in my mind! Spray just enough background so your black writing will show. It doesn't have to exactly match the decal. If you're good with an airbrush you can get something slick like the picture that just blends right in. (I'm not that good.)
Hello, First I took a printout of the decals, hand-drew a slightly offset outline around the decal lettering. Then i cut out the window using the outline i drew as a guide, cutting with an xacto knife/scapel so know i have a stencil. Stick the stencil to the enclosure and paint, first i used white then a very light mist coat with green. For stencils i use a material called frisket film which is very low-tack transluscent plastic film made for this very thing. If i want a nice clean hard edge i'll clearcoat the window area first so the edges are sealed and none of the coloured paint can seep under the stencil and screw-up the hard edge. I'm a total hack with an airbrush, frisket film, tape, liquid frisket and xacto knives to the rescue. I was trying to do a fade for the windows and after a couple attempts it became apparent it was beyond me... practice, practice and more...
dave
Quote from: Gledison on October 24, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
Quote from: jimilee on October 24, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
White waterslide works great for dark graphics on a dark enclosure.. Looks just like sticker paper.
hey Jimi lee.
im aware of that, the problem is that I need to match the background collor in order to don't appear around the graphics . the collor of the enclosure is the coolest thing and I don't want to cover it with a white backgoround..
thanks for the tip.
Right, this requires you to make the background the same color as your pedal. You can probably find a color sample where you got the pedal. II had tp do this for a paint that I used previously.
What about printing in Yellow collor? Or printing first in Black, than yellow over it? The prob would be how to adjust the paper to print twice exactly in the same point...:S
Quote from: Gledison on October 25, 2013, 11:51:57 AM
What about printing in Yellow collor? Or printing first in Black, than yellow over it? The prob would be how to adjust the paper to print twice exactly in the same point...:S
photoshop layers
If you happen to have a laminator, you can try the Pulsar DecalPro system. I've gotten nice results using the DecalPro stuff . . . but you need a laminator and there's a bit of a learning curve with the system. Here's some stuff I did with the Pulsar system:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=6324.0 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=6324.0)
Quote from: jimilee on October 25, 2013, 01:16:02 PM
Quote from: Gledison on October 25, 2013, 11:51:57 AM
What about printing in Yellow collor? Or printing first in Black, than yellow over it? The prob would be how to adjust the paper to print twice exactly in the same point...:S
photoshop layers
Hey mate! Working with layers on photoshop or ilustrator is not the poblem! What i ment is hoe to print first black , than feesd the paper in the printer again and print yellow! Might be tough!
Quote from: Fastocker on October 25, 2013, 01:16:35 PM
If you happen to have a laminator, you can try the Pulsar DecalPro system. I've gotten nice results using the DecalPro stuff . . . but you need a laminator and there's a bit of a learning curve with the system. Here's some stuff I did with the Pulsar system:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=6324.0 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=6324.0)
Unfortunatly no laminator..
I'm not sure you can get there from here so to speak. Like Jimi I always match up the color, or come really close anyway, on the white water slide decal to my pedal color.
Now one way around this visually, IMHO, is to do this and then take great care in cutting the decal the exact size of the top of the enclosure. So when looking down all you see is the decal color you chose right? So when looking at the side of the pedal, if your match is close, you really can't tell that the color on top is any different than the color on the sides so you in effect get what you are after.
I'll see if I can some up with an example. I'm not sure if I snapped pics of the sides of the one in mind or night. "I'll be back" :P
Edit: Well the one I'm thinking of I have saved on Imageshack and my work now blocks this. But just for an example the one below is where I cut the decal to cover the top. If I had sprayed this pedal black I would have come really close. As it is this pedal is a very dark purple. I didn't snap any pics on the side. If I wanted to match that purple I would have played around with the colors. I hope some of this makes sense.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8586147441_ffe83c408a.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94285707@N04/8586147441/)
I've found 2 solutions:
one is to print 2 different decals. Apply the first and let it dry. then apply the second one on the top of it. At least for the yellow collor worked fine..
second is to print twice on the same decal. Ive just tried that on a transparent slide. the prob is how to adjust exactly the position. On the transparent slide, was almost perfect, giving actually a nice effect on the letters and graphics :P
I will post soon the final work!
cheers everyone!