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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: atreidesheir on January 26, 2014, 03:17:29 AM

Title: Kloner diodes
Post by: atreidesheir on January 26, 2014, 03:17:29 AM
I thought it might be cool for everyone to mention their favorite Klone diodes and why.
Seems relevant at the moment for some reason. :)

I have the Chimaera with Bat41 (per the Sunking pdf).  Sound good.  I would like a switch to try BAT46.  I am also wondering if the diodes make much difference.   
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: alanp on January 26, 2014, 07:39:38 AM
Massively lazy. I almost never swap out diodes.
Title: Kloner diodes
Post by: Stig on January 26, 2014, 09:10:44 AM
Well I have a kingslayer. And Im still changing the diodes. Just for fun. Guess you all know the feeling:-)

But i had bat41's in there for some time. Now I changed them out for assymetric 1n4148, the plain old/boring old ones. But i think thet are the best yet in there in combination with assymetric 1n34a. Pretty standard it turns out.

In my geranium clipping I had OA126, which sounded really good. But also a little fuzzy. So I swapped these with OA1160. I like those much better.

But as I mentioned, I will probably swap them some more around... Until the Sunking II arrives, then it starts all over again:-) But hey, its great fun.
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: juansolo on January 26, 2014, 10:30:28 AM
In a Kingslayer, LEDs. In a Klone 1N34As from Tayda.
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: chromesphere on January 27, 2014, 07:41:34 AM
The Klon has been reversed engineered and degoop, did the degooper find out what was the official, unicorn endorsed, diode?
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: Stig on January 29, 2014, 09:20:51 PM

Quote from: chromesphere on January 27, 2014, 07:41:34 AM
The Klon has been reversed engineered and degoop, did the degooper find out what was the official, unicorn endorsed, diode?
From what I know, the closest equivalent in fv are those in the 1n34a's. I really dont think unicorns had anything to do with it. Just good marketing.
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: chromesphere on January 29, 2014, 10:28:38 PM
I knew it!  I knew those 1n34a's were special! I'm going start stock piling 1n34a's and chinese 1n914's now. :D
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: Stig on January 30, 2014, 06:38:49 AM
:-) Good Luck. You'll need a big house then.
But they do sound good together though.
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: alanp on January 30, 2014, 07:23:48 AM
Personally, I'm happy with "close enough for rock n roll".

One, any difference will get lost in the mix.

Two, sounding EXACTLY like the original is boring.

Three... here's a concept, "point of diminishing returns". There are some things that are night and day differences (like v3205d and mn3005), and there are some that are not worth chasing down (like original mustard caps for Marshall amp builds -- far more worth it to use Sozo, or just buy Mallory 150's. You're going to get more difference changing the value.)

That said, if you're having fun in the chase itself, go nuts!
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: chromesphere on January 30, 2014, 07:37:56 AM
Its alarming how guitarists will throw so much cash down just to have something that's rare.  Sometimes I think the rarity is the trait that's worth money.  But we've all heard this tune many times before.  I was curious about the klon diode because, well, if it turned out to be a 1n34a or even 1n270 I would have laughed.
Title: Kloner diodes
Post by: Stig on January 30, 2014, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: alanp on January 30, 2014, 07:23:48 AM
Personally, I'm happy with "close enough for rock n roll".

One, any difference will get lost in the mix.

Two, sounding EXACTLY like the original is boring.

Three... here's a concept, "point of diminishing returns". There are some things that are night and day differences (like v3205d and mn3005), and there are some that are not worth chasing down (like original mustard caps for Marshall amp builds -- far more worth it to use Sozo, or just buy Mallory 150's. You're going to get more difference changing the value.)

That said, if you're having fun in the chase itself, go nuts!
Yeah if you are playing in a loud rock band, like myself, the diodes will get lost in other guitars and drums. But when Im at home building these pedals and recording music I like to try things out. There can be really subtle differences.
Title: Re: Kloner diodes
Post by: jkokura on January 30, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: chromesphere on January 30, 2014, 07:37:56 AM
Sometimes I think the rarity is the trait that's worth money.

Diamonds actually aren't all that rare, but the industry makes people 'believe' so, which drives the price up.

Just saying that it's not just Guitar gear. Limited edition stuff (1 of 2000, etc) always sells at a higher price.

Jacob