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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Willybomb on February 11, 2014, 02:32:32 PM

Title: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: Willybomb on February 11, 2014, 02:32:32 PM
Sometimes, I go nuts and get all ambitious with what I'd like to build, because I think I'd like to have a box that does x, something that does Y, and then I see something like the Zoom G3x and go "Well, f**k it all, because thing does everything I want, and I can probably use my outboard stuff with it too, for a reasonable amount of money with no time wasted".

http://www.zoom.co.jp/products/g3

Then I see a cheaparse unit like this and think "well, bugger me, it's all right there, nearly.  Wonder if I could mod that up or gut it, or whatever.  If the delay and chorus are ok, I'd probably be set".

http://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PPDLA1/Super-Guitar-Multi-Effect-Pedal-With-Overdrive,-Distortion,-Chorus,-And-Digital-Delay-

And then, I see about the only review on the web that I can find, and I think "Nah, I can do better.  Even if I can't, it'll still be better"



Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: jimilee on February 11, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
Oh you're under the impression we build because we need it? :-D
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: muddyfox on February 11, 2014, 02:58:16 PM

I had the G3 version without the expression pedal a while back and unlike other Zoom stuff I've tried, this one was actually pretty good (especially for the asking price). I actually regret selling it.

And to echo Jimilee (and I mentioned this earlier today in another thread), it's sort of a "if you build it, they will come" philosophy with me. If I need anything, I'll buy it. If i don't, I'll build it.  ;D
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: gtr2 on February 11, 2014, 03:40:48 PM
I have NEVER been satisfied by any of the "do it all" units.  I've had my fair share and they always hit the street a few weeks later.

line 6, digitech, boss, etc.....
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: muddyfox on February 11, 2014, 04:01:18 PM
I'm not saying g3 is great mfx to end all mfxs but for a grabngo thing thats also a looper, an usb interface, has a headphone output and is battery powered, its not half bad.

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Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: flanagan0718 on February 11, 2014, 04:03:59 PM
I've had several my self. After a week of owning them i hated it. Pod XT live, Boss GT6, Digitech RP7, Digitech gfx2000, just to name a few.
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: jubal81 on February 11, 2014, 04:39:40 PM
I envy those with ears of tin ...
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: muddyfox on February 11, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
Yeah, those are great! :-)
Seriously though, having a medically induced sort of tinnitus, I can't really appreciate "good" sound anymore. Oh well...

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Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: raulduke on February 11, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: jimilee on February 11, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
Oh you're under the impression we build because we need it? :-D

Ha ha so true.

The building bits the fun part!
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: juansolo on February 11, 2014, 05:47:29 PM
Quote from: raulduke on February 11, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: jimilee on February 11, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
Oh you're under the impression we build because we need it? :-D

Ha ha so true.

The building bits the fun part!

The truth is spoken.

I build because I can.
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: GermanCdn on February 11, 2014, 06:01:22 PM
Multi units don't seem to last in my collection, everyone but one has come and gone (still have a Vox Valvetronix unit, but I keep it for one part of one song that I've left unfinished for like 6 years).

I find myself more and more getting into single function builds, which certainly doesn't decrease the pedal count.  Point in case, the current setup I am enamored with is a Klone/Kot two in one (both on) with my red strat and a Traynor 20W 1X12 combo.  The exact setup sounds killer, but change one variable in the chain, and the magic is lost.

And yes, all the fun is in the building and the sense of accomplishment at the end.
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: slimtriggers on February 11, 2014, 06:06:53 PM
Clearly the tuner he got with the kit was defective.  I'd be suspicious of the rest of it as well ;)
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: Clayford on February 11, 2014, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: juansolo on February 11, 2014, 05:47:29 PM
Quote from: raulduke on February 11, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: jimilee on February 11, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
Oh you're under the impression we build because we need it? :-D

Ha ha so true.

The building bits the fun part!

The truth is spoken.

I build because I can.
This. All of it. +infinity

Quote from: My Wife
Why do you have another delay and 4 distortion boxes on your build queue?
(http://i.imgur.com/7XYicIp.png)


Because I can.
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: Willybomb on February 12, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
Quoteit's sort of a "if you build it, they will come" philosophy with me. If I need anything, I'll buy it. If i don't, I'll build it. 

Yeah, i can really relate to this.  I have two multis, that need boxing that will make life pretty good in terms of setup, but I don't really hook up the electric so much that I'm going to die if I don't finish them, so they're crusing along.  I just redid the artwork and box layout for one last night.

I also have two ODs (a ts808 off sabrotone, successfully rocked, and a Deadringer that needs rocking) that need boxing, and I just got the parts for another vero SHO and a Clark Gainster.  This is on top of a Sea Urchin that's also waiting to be boxed.  But there's no hurry because I already have retail pedals on the pedalboard that do the same in the meantime.

QuoteAnd yes, all the fun is in the building and the sense of accomplishment at the end.

QuoteBecause I can.

I think these sum it up nicely though.  If I ever finally finish anything mentioned here, it'll be pretty cool.
Title: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: rullywowr on February 12, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
I've been through lots of multi effects.  My conclusion is analog>digital. Less is more so give me an analog pedal pushing a tube amp any day of the week.
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: muddyfox on February 12, 2014, 01:41:23 PM

While that is true for most people, I play at home.

I don't have a luxury of sizzling tubes blowing out my windows. That and my somewhat tin ear have enabled me to become quite friendly with the digital domain. I've been pretty happy with an 11R over the last few years and right now I have an incoming Kemper to keep me company in my little headphone-isolated guitar playing world.

That said, I'll keep building analog pedals.  ;D
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: das234 on February 12, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: jubal81 on February 11, 2014, 04:39:40 PM
I envy those with ears of tin ...

"sounds really good..."
Come on! Can he really not hear that!??
Title: Re: Well, you know, sometimes I think... why bother?
Post by: muddyfox on February 12, 2014, 02:42:44 PM

Heck even I hear that...  ::)