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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: brand0nized on February 25, 2014, 05:55:02 AM

Title: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: brand0nized on February 25, 2014, 05:55:02 AM
Just saw this pedalboard in a NAAM video.

It basically has a bunch of holes on it, and you buy their fasteners which are sticky pads with a screw hole on the other side, and then screw it to the board. The board has larger holes spread throughout to run cables underneath the board.



With all the DIY pedalboards out there, I'm sure the community could hack this together in no time!
As for the locking part, you could use a type of threaded bushing like the one below on the bottom lid of all the pedals we make and use wing nuts to fasten them to DIY pedalboards. We could even place velcro around it and have the best of both worlds!

(http://morebeer.com/product_images/morebeer.com/1/3737.jpg)

Any ideas for good bushing sizes and where to get them?
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: jkokura on February 25, 2014, 06:39:07 AM
Yeah, as soon as I heard the price I was like, "I'm out."

I don't know what's making them more expensive than Pedaltrain, but Pedaltrain certainly is more cost effective in comparison.

The big question I had too was, what happens if my pedal comes off that plate? Is the plate removable if I want to sell a pedal? Can I reapply a plate to a new pedal? What if I want more of the plates, or if I only have ones that are the wrong size?

Don't get me wrong, but I think Velcro, as non-perfect as it is, is at least cheaper on the wallet and certainly more easily found.

Jacob
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: brand0nized on February 25, 2014, 06:49:30 AM
Quote from: jkokura on February 25, 2014, 06:39:07 AM
Yeah, as soon as I heard the price I was like, "I'm out."

What are they priced as? I guess I just assumed something so simple would be uber expensive :)
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: jkokura on February 25, 2014, 06:56:16 AM
The Jr Sized Pedalboard is $199, but it doesn't come with a case. The Case is additional $175 I think.

Jacob
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: brand0nized on February 25, 2014, 07:00:08 AM
Damn. We should all start bending some aluminum and start our own businesses of handy guitar pedal innovations...
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: muddyfox on February 25, 2014, 07:08:45 AM
Quote from: jkokura on February 25, 2014, 06:39:07 AM

The big question I had too was, what happens if my pedal comes off that plate? Is the plate removable if I want to sell a pedal? Can I reapply a plate to a new pedal? What if I want more of the plates, or if I only have ones that are the wrong size?


From what I've seen, not much happens. The plate is attached to the bottom of the pedal with doublesided sticky tape, so you can reapply it to other pedals (although scraping tape leftovers is quite a hassle in my book).

If you want more plates, they apparently cost $5-7 and come in three sizes (I'm guessing A/B/BB).

And yes, it's ridiculously overpriced, methinks.
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: flanagan0718 on February 25, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
I use these (see picture). They are just a bunch of split bike chain links. Works great and holds strong. I have a Grom board (pine) so i can imagine that they wouldn't work on a pedal train.
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: brand0nized on February 25, 2014, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on February 25, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
I use these (see picture). They are just a bunch of split bike chain links. Works great and holds strong. I have a Grom board (pine) so i can imagine that they wouldn't work on a pedal train.

Whats your process if you want to switch out a pedal?

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Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: jubal81 on February 25, 2014, 03:08:57 PM
I always wondered what's wrong with magnets. Find some doughnut-shaped neo magnets and put the pedal plate screws through them so the bottom of your pedal has four magnetic feet.

EDIT:
Just found these on the bay. Hmm.
(http://cl.ly/image/120D323V2M2u/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-25%20at%2010.15.38%20AM.png)
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: flanagan0718 on February 25, 2014, 03:17:17 PM
They are thin enough that the stock screws are still used to mount these to the pedal to the board. As far as switching entire pedals out...I don't play in a band anymore and have a small board at home. It's made from a Grom shelf from Ikea so random holes don't bug me that much.
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: brand0nized on February 25, 2014, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: jubal81 on February 25, 2014, 03:08:57 PM
I always wondered what's wrong with magnets. Find some doughnut-shaped neo magnets and put the pedal plate screws through them so the bottom of your pedal has four magnetic feet.

EDIT:
Just found these on the bay. Hmm.
(http://cl.ly/image/120D323V2M2u/Screen%20Shot%202014-02-25%20at%2010.15.38%20AM.png)

Ooh very interesting idea.. would magnets have any negative effects on the electronics?

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Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: billstein on February 25, 2014, 04:49:51 PM

Quote from: flanagan0718 on February 25, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
I use these (see picture). They are just a bunch of split bike chain links. Works great and holds strong. I have a Grom board (pine) so i can imagine that they wouldn't work on a pedal train.

I've been thinking of doing this. Did you use a bike chain and split it apart yourself or buy the chain links already split.
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: flanagan0718 on February 25, 2014, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: billstein on February 25, 2014, 04:49:51 PM

Quote from: flanagan0718 on February 25, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
I use these (see picture). They are just a bunch of split bike chain links. Works great and holds strong. I have a Grom board (pine) so i can imagine that they wouldn't work on a pedal train.
I've been thinking of doing this. Did you use a bike chain and split it apart yourself or buy the chain links already split.

I bought them split but I'm sure if you have a dremel or drill it's not that hard. Did wonders for me.
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: crashguitar on February 25, 2014, 07:42:17 PM
I bought a bike chain and split it myself. I don't own a chain tool, so I used a nut under the chain, and then used a hammer and a punch. It was not hard.
I was wondering about using this method and some sort of wing nut that could be hand tightened or loosened. That is as far as I have gotten on that thought, however.

Chad
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: alanp on February 26, 2014, 04:28:24 AM
Magnets won't hold aluminium. They'll have to either hold the screws for the enclosures, or the guts (highly unlikely, and highly undesirable.)

Think I'll stick with my refrigerator rack for now.
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: lars on February 26, 2014, 11:12:46 PM
Great idea with the magnets jubal81! Especially if those neo magnets are anything like the ones you can pull out of a hard drive, that pedal would go nowhere. This could even solve storage issues, just stick 'em all to the fridge when not in use. Best looking refrigerator magnet ever....
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: brand0nized on February 27, 2014, 02:54:43 AM
Quote from: lars on February 26, 2014, 11:12:46 PM
Great idea with the magnets jubal81! Especially if those neo magnets are anything like the ones you can pull out of a hard drive, that pedal would go nowhere. This could even solve storage issues, just stick 'em all to the fridge when not in use. Best looking refrigerator magnet ever....

Or just store them on the bottom of your board! Always ready to go!
Title: Re: #saynotovelcro: a (kinda) new pedalboard design by temple audio (let's diy it!)
Post by: timbo_93631 on February 27, 2014, 03:45:13 AM
Whenever I have fouled up the drilling on the enclosure I recycle the box and keep the bottom plate (bungle plates) which gets Velcro without reservation.  I like to play all my for-hire custom built pedals at least once at stage volume if possible on Sundays at church so the bottoms stay on the bench at home while the bungle plates hold things steady for the morning.