just curious if you had a DAW and if so, what are you using?
I'll start...
Although Macs are great, I am a PC guy through and through and enjoy building them so obviously that is my DAW choice. Been a Cubase user for about 12 years now and have dabbled in Ableton.
What about you?
Reaper. Grew up on Cubase, but was tired of the dongles and over clunky UI. Reaper is great, small footprint (a few MB), does everything I need it to do...and has great support. Runs all your favorite VST plug ins. After using the trial version for a while, I paid for the full version and couldn't be happier. Made by the guy who invented "WinAmp"...(remember that one?)
I'm using Logic ... for $200 I thought it was a great deal. Reaper was also very good but a little more bare bones and seemed to run a little slower.
Mostly Garageband, some Logic Express
Ableton Live.
Been using it for years and I love it.
Logic user here also. I came from ProTools when my audio computer was a PC but since I went to a MacBook I moved to Logic. I found it to be very intuitive and easy to jump in to.
Cody
Reaper/Fruity Loops/TC Electronic Konneckt8/Tascam monitors. I'm actually waiting on delivery of some new floor stands for the monitors with some foam iso pads. I'm thinking of building a couple sound diffusers for my room, too.
Studio One Pro.
Also, there's a HUGE sale from Presonus on Studio One Pro right now. You can get a wicked good recording setup from them for pretty cheap.
Jacob
Tc konnekt6 into no-frills reaper. Works great.
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Quote from: jkokura on March 11, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
Studio One Pro.
Also, there's a HUGE sale from Presonus on Studio One Pro right now. You can get a wicked good recording setup from them for pretty cheap.
Jacob
My father just took advantage of their 50% off sale this month. Hes a fan of Studio One Pro also.
Cody
Quote from: rullywowr on March 11, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
Reaper. Grew up on Cubase, but was tired of the dongles and over clunky UI. Reaper is great, small footprint (a few MB), does everything I need it to do...and has great support. Runs all your favorite VST plug ins. After using the trial version for a while, I paid for the full version and couldn't be happier. Made by the guy who invented "WinAmp"...(remember that one?)
Have somewhat followed the progression of Reaper and man it has come along way.....and at that price, it's a no brainer.
The Cubase dongle doesn't bother me because I run it on a desktop and pretty much just put it in and forget about it. If I switched computers a lot, or used a laptop, I don't think I could handle the dongle.
Although I have tried other software, I still always find Cubase works the best for me. I also think it's midi functions are superior to the competition and most other software are trying to play catch-up to Cubase's midi. Which only makes sense since Cubase has been midi long before the others.
That being said, Ableton is it's own beast and really is inspiring to work with if you have only used linear based DAW software. I am also interested in checking out Bitwig and seeing the differences with it and Live.
Ableton Live can also do the linear arrangement style of working just as well as any other DAW can.
You don't have to use it in performance view at all if you don't want to.
It is so flexible, and covers so many bases that it is more of a modular studio environment, than DAW, if that makes sense.
I've been using Cool Edit and Adobe Audition since the mid 90's. I can't bring myself to update to anything newer. But I guess I've always kind of been stuck in the 90's lol.
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Quote from: raven174us on March 11, 2014, 05:48:26 PM
I've been using Cool Edit and Adobe Audition since the mid 90's. I can't bring myself to update to anything newer. But I guess I've always kind of been stuck in the 90's lol.
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Cool Edit Pro rules!
I still think they had/have the best wave editor. I prefer it over Wavelab and Soundforge anyday!
Adobe bought out Cool Edit so if you like CE you would love Audition. It's a lot like it but with more features.
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i went from nuendo 2 to the latest cubase 7.5 i needed the new "beat detective drum editor" for a turd polishing project
interface is a motu 2408 and tascam dm 24 digital mixer
...and i am using Sonar in my PC-based homestudio. I chose it by happenstance back in the early 00-s (the only guy i knew who were into home recording recommended it), and ive been stuck with it since then. Today i dont think its neither better nor worse than anything else; it does my job, i am comfortable with it... so i stay.
...its ben a few years since i recorded a full song in that digital world, some analog interest came inbetween 8).. a bunch is still on my old myspacepage: https://myspace.com/vallhagen/music/songs (https://myspace.com/vallhagen/music/songs) , not too bad after all:)
Cheers
Have been using a DAW since about 2002'ish. Started in Nuendo, then moved to Cubase, then moved to Logic in 2006. Logic is really intuitive IMO and I am very pleased with the sound I get from it. At $200 for the latest version, it's a freakin' steal for a DAW. Granted, you gotta have a Mac to run it. I built a Hackintosh a few years ago for music/video/photo editing and it's been a beast. A beast I tell ya.
I also spend a good bit of time in Ableton for church stuff. We run all of our clicks, cues and loops from Ableton so I'm in it a couple hours each week. I don't do much audio recording in it though.
Protocols since v2....... Those were scary times.
Reaper mostly. Although lately my needs are even more simple and I've just been using Audacity. Samson C01U (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/C01UCW?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=recording&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CNGXgImyi70CFYZcMgodHCoAKg) stuck in the center of my speaker. About as easy as it gets.
If I need drums I use EZDrummer (http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=7) or BFD Eco (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=103). Both of these drum VST's are heavily discounted during sales throughout the year-esp during Black Friday. I think I got EZDrummer for $79 and BFD for around $30. Be patient and score a good deal. EZDrummer expansion packs also go on sale a lot. The Nashville one is especially good, IMHO.
If I need bass, I plug into a Pod Studio GX (http://line6.com/podstudiogx/) and record direct.
This thread reminded me that I also have Audtion. It was bundled with my (now) ancient Adobe CS2 Production Suite. It is a good editor with some cool features.
Started with Cubase, switched to Logic 9. Haven't used Logic X yet.
Quote from: raven174us on March 11, 2014, 05:48:26 PM
I've been using Cool Edit and Adobe Audition since the mid 90's. I can't bring myself to update to anything newer. But I guess I've always kind of been stuck in the 90's lol.
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^ Exactly the same with me Raven! :D
Yeah, I use Audition all the time. It's Edit View is really useful and it has some nice stat functions.
Pro Tools or no tools.
Atari 1040 ST with Steinberg 24..haha yea I'm an old fart... then Pro-tools 1.1.. with Cuebase for midi locked with MIDI Timecode.. Stayed with Pro-tools doing audio post for 15 years and then over to Logic for scoring before Apple bought it. Now I use Logic Pro, one son has a Cuebase rig (heavy metal) and the other uses FT Studio and Native Instruments Complete. I have a happy house! :P
So what do we have here?
Cubase/Nuendo, Ableton, Cool Edit/Audition, Logic, Pro Tools, Audacity, FL Studio, Reaper, Garage Band, Studio One, Sonar
Definitely a diverse crowd!
Quote from: lincolnic on March 12, 2014, 02:36:38 AM
Pro Tools or no tools.
You might be no tools very soon if Avid continue the way they are going :D
Started with Samplitude in 97 or so, moved onto n-Track, currently using Reaper, since about... dunno 200x.
Quote from: raulduke on March 12, 2014, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: lincolnic on March 12, 2014, 02:36:38 AM
Pro Tools or no tools.
You might be no tools very soon if Avid continue the way they are going :D
Quoted for truth!
I moved to Logic Pro once Pro Tools went open with audio interfaces. It really introduced more problems and ran very unstable for me at least.
Cody
Quote from: raulduke on March 12, 2014, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: lincolnic on March 12, 2014, 02:36:38 AM
Pro Tools or no tools.
You might be no tools very soon if Avid continue the way they are going :D
Actually, it's Avid's video division that's having trouble - from what I read, their audio arm is still doing okay.
For better or worse, Pro Tools isn't going anywhere for a long time. It's too entrenched in too many studios (like everywhere I work) to disappear overnight, even if Avid suddenly went out of business tomorrow.
I tried a Pro Tools Demo when I had M-Audio stuff. I also used Cubase for a whole album.
I LOVE Studio One. Can't say enough about it, and the Pro version is currently %50 off for the month of march. That is a non-regret purchase.
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 12, 2014, 11:47:42 PM
I tried a Pro Tools Demo when I had M-Audio stuff. I also used Cubase for a whole album.
I LOVE Studio One. Can't say enough about it, and the Pro version is currently %50 off for the month of march. That is a non-regret purchase.
Jacob
Aren't the Studio One guys old Steinberg guys?
Yeah, I've been told that they were the initial people behind Cubase, but I wouldn't say that Studio One is very Cubase like. I believe that they were hired by Presonus, who wanted to get into the DAW game, and they hired some good people. The system they've designed was built around the newer 64 bit systems with multi cores and all that stuff. I've read it really put the gears to the big guys (Pro Tools, Logic) because they were still operating with bloated programs designed for much earlier Computer systems and then adapted to new technology. Long and short, because Studio One was designed from the ground up recently, they've had a lot of advantages over the other systems.
People who like Midi still seem to like Logic. Pro Tools tends to dominate the market because of it's use in the pro studios, but for my money, the home studio scene was greatly improved by Studio One, even if it forced the other DAWs to step up and make redesigning a priority for the new Computer systems available.
Jacob
Yeah, I am still a die hard Cubase fan and been using it forever. I know the dongle sucks for some people and other people think it's bloated but I actually love a lot of the stuff they have added and 7.5 is rock stable on my machine. Chord track is an amazing tool.
And as far as M-Audio, that is still the audio interface I use. The Delta 66 with Omni Studio. It's pci but I made sure my new motherboard had a pci slot because I love this thing. Unfortuantely, doesn't look like M-Audio is putting W8 drivers out for it. Not a big deal now because I am still W7 but I will probably have to upgrade at some point.
also, got this baby not too long ago....
http://www.nektartech.com/Products/Panorama-P4-P6
love it!!
Got my stands yesterday. Ready for demo carnage.
awesome!
I have some almost identical to those but they aren't adjustable :(
Quote from: madbean on March 13, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
Got my stands yesterday. Ready for demo carnage.
Sweet! Are those a stupid deal of the day buy?
Loving Reaper
Quote from: Leevibe on March 13, 2014, 05:46:15 PM
Quote from: madbean on March 13, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
Got my stands yesterday. Ready for demo carnage.
Sweet! Are those a stupid deal of the day buy?
No, I got them off Amazon. I think they were $70? Much cheaper than some of the ones on Sweetwater.
are they Griffin?
Sound Anchors make nice stands if you enjoy spending money.
Quote from: peAk on March 13, 2014, 06:23:15 PM
are they Griffin?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JTV358/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Those look great for the price. Lots of good reviews is always a good thing. I like Ultimate Support stuff.
My stands are built from ikea drawer fronts. Rack rail from parts express and free mopads that came with the yamahas complete the package.
(http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx105/leevibe1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsa9500df6.jpg) (http://s746.photobucket.com/user/leevibe1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsa9500df6.jpg.html)
Quote from: Leevibe on March 13, 2014, 09:45:24 PM
My stands are built from ikea drawer fronts. Rack rail from parts express and free mopads that came with the yamahas complete the package.
Those Yamaha HSM80's? I've got those same monitors. They're great.
Quote from: Jabulani Jonny on March 14, 2014, 12:44:35 AM
Quote from: Leevibe on March 13, 2014, 09:45:24 PM
My stands are built from ikea drawer fronts. Rack rail from parts express and free mopads that came with the yamahas complete the package.
Those Yamaha HSM80's? I've got those same monitors. They're great.
These are the HS50M's. I got them because they're supposed to be closest to the NS10 nastiness. They do lack bass and I haven't spent time mixing on them yet really, so I haven't learned them. I've never used NS10's so I don't know how close they come.
Quote from: Leevibe on March 14, 2014, 01:03:58 AM
These are the HS50M's. I got them because they're supposed to be closest to the NS10 nastiness. They do lack bass and I haven't spent time mixing on them yet really, so I haven't learned them. I've never used NS10's so I don't know how close they come.
I've A/B'd them. Unfortunately, they don't sound like NS10s. It was a few years ago, so I don't quite remember specifically what's different, but they're a bit more forgiving than the NS10s are.
Wow, that's scary. The hs50ms are NOT fun to listen to.
Oh yeah. NS10s are the ultimate "Are you sure your mix sounds good?" tool.
I use Event TR6s. When I got into recording, a sales guy convinced me they were awesome. I figure it's too much effort to move to another set, and selling these would likely be tough.
Never listened to those Yamahas. Are the NS-10s the yellow cone ones?
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 15, 2014, 02:48:48 AM
I use Event TR6s. When I got into recording, a sales guy convinced me they were awesome. I figure it's too much effort to move to another set, and selling these would likely be tough.
Never listened to those Yamahas. Are the NS-10s the yellow cone ones?
Jacob
No, NS-10s have white woofers.
Quote from: lincolnic on March 15, 2014, 02:34:03 AM
Oh yeah. NS10s are the ultimate "Are you sure your mix sounds good?" tool.
I wanted a pair but I would have had to invest in a proper amp and probably spare tweeters. I figured these would do for me. I'm sure I'm the weak link in the chain as I have a ton to learn about recording. My mixing desk is on casters so I can roll it away from the wall for mixing. I hope to build some bass traps and maybe build some cool gear to fill up all my empty rack space. I also kind of want to build a mic. I remember finding boards for a Neumann U87 clone. That would be a fun project.
I think this is where I found the mic project:
http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=48030.0
I use Event PS8s, I am used to them . I always wanted a pair of NS10s as well as a pair of Auratones, but never found a good deal.
Quote from: peAk on March 15, 2014, 03:18:40 AM
I use Event PS8s, I am used to them . I always wanted a pair of NS10s as well as a pair of Auratones, but never found a good deal.
Auratones are even harder to find than NS10s now! Which is a shame, because the Avantones actually don't sound anything like them...they actually sound too good, if you can believe it.
Quote from: lincolnic on March 15, 2014, 02:34:03 AM
Oh yeah. NS10s are the ultimate "Are you sure your mix sounds good?" tool.
I've always felt that NS10s were the ultimate "how to hear how your mix sounds on terrible speakers" test. I think they were popular more because they were a standard that recording engineers were so familiar with that they could mix around their considerable defects.
Genelecs, on the other hand are ruthlessly revealing of a mix, but good speakers. Admittedly a bit pricey, but for pro studios they make more sense to me.
The whole NS10 philosophy as I understand it is that they tend to accentuate ugly frequencies, thus when you mix on them, you tend to pull those back. The saying goes, "If it sounds good on these, it will sound good on anything."
In a sense they are revealing but accurate they are not. They started life as consumer bookshelf speakers and it was discovered that they made a good proxy for crappy consumer grade stereo gear. Good mixes on them seemed to translate to a wide range of stereo equipment. The idea caught on and they are a studio staple even though Yamaha doesn't make them anymore. Countless hit records seem to confirm that there is something special about them.
I think they are a little bit analogous to the TS9/808 in that they are pretty polarizing. People love them or hate them. And, like the TS, many people don't understand how best to use them.
That's the way I see it anyway. Never owned a pair but would love to just to be part of the hype and legend.
Quote from: pickdropper on March 16, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
I've always felt that NS10s were the ultimate "how to hear how your mix sounds on terrible speakers" test. I think they were popular more because they were a standard that recording engineers were so familiar with that they could mix around their considerable defects.
Genelecs, on the other hand are ruthlessly revealing of a mix, but good speakers. Admittedly a bit pricey, but for pro studios they make more sense to me.
In my experience, Genelecs are extremely flattering - not ruthless at all. They're also really bass heavy, so you've got to be careful with your low end there. I'd want a second set of speakers to check my work on for sure. For a long time, Genelecs and NS10s were a standard combo in a lot of studios. Still are, actually.
NS10s have very little bass content - their roll-off is around 100 Hz - and they really push midrange. They're not terrible speakers, but they do have a distinct sound. They'll tell you if your vocals are too loud, or if your cymbals are too bright. Most engineers I know (myself included) won't do an entire mix on them, but we will check in with them every so often to see how things are translating.
This is a really good article on their history and their current use, if anyone's interested: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/articles/yamahans10.htm
And if anyone
really wants a pair, I just saw someone on BYOC is selling theirs for a decent price (you'll need an amp, though): http://byocelectronics.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=48658