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Title: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 14, 2014, 11:38:44 PM
So I was wondering as I'm a fan of dpdt footswitches, id love to have true bypass but another switch allowing me to choose 1 of 2 different effects aswell but all in one box. P.s I know how to wire true bypass but not with two different effects and a switch to have either one active.

Thanks 8)
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: mattlee0037 on March 15, 2014, 12:13:25 AM
I would imagine that the first on/off stomp would be wired like normal but the send and return effect would be wired to the two common lugs of the DPDT switch and then the in and out of one effect would be on top and the in and out of the other effect on the bottom and you could switch between them.
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 12:16:05 AM
Thanks for the reply but I still cant picture it. Is therr any schematics or anything?
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: jimilee on March 15, 2014, 01:08:12 AM
I'm curious about this. Why not 2 3pdts? The dpdt is a great idea, but that means you could never have the 2 effects on at the same time.
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: billstein on March 15, 2014, 01:36:11 AM
If I'm getting the idea here I could see how it could be helpful. Say you have an OD and a distortion circuit in the same box. You use the OD for a rhythm crunch and the distortion for your lead. You're only hitting one switch to go between the two instead of switching one off and turning on the other.
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: mattlee0037 on March 15, 2014, 01:53:17 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=dpdt+switch&espv=210&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=A7IjU6nMGZPQqQHs5oGwDw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1280&bih=633#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=nfvGdmFmI7UYXM%253A%3B7KG-BYQhwxEUlM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.learningaboutelectronics.com%252Fimages%252FDPDT-toggle-switch-diagram.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.learningaboutelectronics.com%252FArticles%252FToggle-switch-wiring.php%3B315%3B188

Your effect send from the on/off switch would go to lug 3 and effect return to lug 4. The input of one effect on 1 with the output on 2 and the input of the other on 5 and the output on 6. I think that would work?
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: jimilee on March 15, 2014, 03:16:14 AM

Quote from: billstein on March 15, 2014, 01:36:11 AM
If I'm getting the idea here I could see how it could be helpful. Say you have an OD and a distortion circuit in the same box. You use the OD for a rhythm crunch and the distortion for your lead. You're only hitting one switch to go between the two instead of switching one off and turning on the other.
I see. Sounds killer.
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: DutchMF on March 15, 2014, 07:50:00 AM
Quote from: billstein on March 15, 2014, 01:36:11 AM
If I'm getting the idea here I could see how it could be helpful. Say you have an OD and a distortion circuit in the same box. You use the OD for a rhythm crunch and the distortion for your lead. You're only hitting one switch to go between the two instead of switching one off and turning on the other.

I see what you mean, but with carefull placement of the 2 stomps, you can hit only one, or both with one foot. That way you can have your cake and eat it too! Maybe this only works for people with big feet like me.....  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 08:30:59 AM
Thanks again for so many replies ;D . Ok im not suer still how im gonna wire it as theres no diagrams for DPDT   :(
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 08:36:20 AM
Another thing but I know this is stupid but whats the 'send' and 'return'  :P
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 08:42:20 AM
Ok guys I just had a brainstorm and now I get it but how would I also wire another switch for true bypass?
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 09:47:06 AM
Unfortunately I dont have all the parts now but I think ive figured it out. Thanks guys.... again ;D
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: juansolo on March 15, 2014, 10:38:31 AM
TH Custom do a rather funky X switch. Two stomps and as far as I can see every option you could ever want. Stomp one side on or off, when one side is on, stomp the other and it kicks over to that. Nicest way of doing it that I can see.

Deffo planning on getting some of them at some point to try (esp as I have about 10 of the relays on the way for peanuts).
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 12:36:29 PM
Thanks  :D
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: m-Kresol on March 15, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
hi, this might help. this is how i will wire my nomojo fuzz. One true bypass on/off switch and one to select the effect. Just leave all the LED parts off.

(http://felix.kalium.org/upload/pictures/Pedals/NoMojo-switching.png)
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
thanks. also a quick question how do i professionaly etch an enclosure like with a name on it because im getting paid to make someone a pedal but they want there name enscribed in it. thanks
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: jimilee on March 16, 2014, 01:39:18 AM

Quote from: aran.e666 on March 15, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
thanks. also a quick question how do i professionaly etch an enclosure like with a name on it because im getting paid to make someone a pedal but they want there name enscribed in it. thanks
there tutorials here and diysb if you search a little.
Title: Re: true bypass with two different effects in one pedal?!
Post by: aran.e666 on March 16, 2014, 09:15:26 AM
Thanks jimilee!