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Title: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: billstein on March 22, 2014, 06:09:59 AM
rullywowr's King Tut. Stock. This is a very cool and very versatile Big Muff circuit.

The graphics are a waterslide decal over the copper on a PCB then Envirotexed. The photo loses how nice this looks with the copper shining through the decal. I will definitely return to this method again.

Anyway hope you like it.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Pharaoh/TopFinal_zps31516059.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Pharaoh/TopFinal_zps31516059.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Pharaoh/Rightside_zpse6855ef6.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Pharaoh/Rightside_zpse6855ef6.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Pharaoh/BottomSide_zps000bb69e.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Pharaoh/BottomSide_zps000bb69e.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Pharaoh/Topside_zpsc7c375fc.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Pharaoh/Topside_zpsc7c375fc.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Pharaoh/Guts_zpsa41ad5dd.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Pharaoh/Guts_zpsa41ad5dd.jpg.html)

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Because a few of you asked how I size the Faceplate to fit the enclosures I thought it would be easier to explain with some photos.

First I print out the design and tape it to the copper clad. This is flipped because it is the same art that is used for etching. All I'm doing here is using it to determine how big I need to cut the FR4. Then I use heavy duty scissors. This is why I like the thin 1 oz. FR4 because it cuts easily.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2823_zps09e56654.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2823_zps09e56654.jpg.html)

At this point I cut it bigger than I need. No need to be to precise here.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2824_zpsfe5e3e2d.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2824_zpsfe5e3e2d.jpg.html)

Here it is after it is etched. Notice the outside black area is not accurate.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2883_zpsece3b450.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2883_zpsece3b450.jpg.html)

I tape a drilling template to the enclosure that matches the artwork for etching then center punch the holes and use a drill press.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2888_zps22c1cfb1.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2888_zps22c1cfb1.jpg.html)

Here is the etched faceplate and the drilled enclosure.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2909_zps68f0cb8c.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2909_zps68f0cb8c.jpg.html)

Get some bolts and nuts. I usually use 4 (even though 3 are pictured).

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2910_zps7e946c8b.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2910_zps7e946c8b.jpg.html)

Bolt the faceplate onto the enclosure.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/DSCN0172_zps5db53941.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/DSCN0172_zps5db53941.jpg.html)

Then sand until the faceplate and the enclosure are flush.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2911_zps20a43006.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Faceplate%20sizing/IMG_2911_zps20a43006.jpg.html)

There you have it. I hope this helps.

Oh and don't do what I did. I had to redo this faceplate because I did the knobs backwards.  :'(
I liked the second effort better so that's alright.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: muddyfox on March 22, 2014, 07:02:15 AM

WOW!!!   :o :o :o

This looks stunning! Yet another technique I would NEVER have thought of on my own. I guess I'm not really cut out for this diy business but I'll gladly stealborrow this idea very soon.  ;D

I'm guessing the faceplate isn't glued to the enclosure? Just held in place with pots and switches?


Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: billstein on March 22, 2014, 07:08:26 AM
Thanks. Yep, the faceplate is held on with the pots and washers
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: muddyfox on March 22, 2014, 07:12:14 AM

Any chance you'd share your graphics files?  ;)
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: billstein on March 22, 2014, 07:16:56 AM
Quote from: muddyfox on March 22, 2014, 07:12:14 AM

Any chance you'd share your graphics files?  ;)

Sure. I won't be able to do it until tomorrow after work when I can get back onto my regular computer.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: muddyfox on March 22, 2014, 07:21:03 AM

Thanks much! Absolutely no rush, whenever you get around doing it!
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: muddyfox on March 22, 2014, 07:35:59 AM

How do you cut your FR4?
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: alanp on March 22, 2014, 07:46:47 AM
Exquisite.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: hoodoo on March 22, 2014, 08:31:19 AM
Wow, speechless mate, a work of art. I think this is the first time i've seen this process used, very impressive  :)
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: Cortexturizer on March 22, 2014, 08:51:12 AM
quite impressive. and you cant go wrong with gold, in my book...hehe
the insides are perfection too, damnit man you do such nice work!
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: Hangingmonkey on March 22, 2014, 08:56:30 AM
Looks awesome.  Cool idea
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Post by: angrykoko on March 22, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
Wow, that's really pretty.
Great idea.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: juansolo on March 22, 2014, 10:50:37 AM
Classy!  8)
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: Thomas_H on March 22, 2014, 11:31:04 AM
This looks really good. A really fine pedal.
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Post by: m-Kresol on March 22, 2014, 11:50:39 AM
This is art. I hardly ever saw anything like it. This one is exceptionally awesome. Keep them coming.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: ncdb07 on March 22, 2014, 12:26:44 PM
Awesome! I am blown away! Beautiful work!
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Post by: pryde on March 22, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
Just awesome!

You are churning out some incredible stuff. Looking forward to more!

Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: ncdb07 on March 22, 2014, 12:39:00 PM
Just a question: Did you paint the waferboard of the input/output jacks or did they come that way?
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: peAk on March 22, 2014, 01:14:44 PM
Spec-friggin-tacular!
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: bcalla on March 22, 2014, 01:24:39 PM
Stunning!!

How did you trim the copper board like that?  It's perfect.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: jimilee on March 22, 2014, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: billstein on March 22, 2014, 06:09:59 AM

The graphics are a waterslide decal over the copper on a PCB then Envirotexed.
On a PCB? Could you clarify / explain how and what PCB you used?
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: rullywowr on March 22, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
Wow Bill. Raising the bar on finishes and interior wiring. It really looks great!   Love the hidden LED too. 
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: sonarchotic on March 22, 2014, 02:19:56 PM
That looks righteous!
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Post by: Gledison on March 22, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
This looks sooooo beautiful!
Great pro work here man!
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Post by: wgc on March 22, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: selfdestroyer on March 22, 2014, 07:47:15 PM
Freakin awesome, What a great idea with putting a waterslide over a copper face plate. Genius! On a side note.. you reminded me that I need to etch an enclosure for my Rully king tut this weekend.

Cody
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: Blues Healer on March 22, 2014, 08:44:31 PM
shit ... that is PERFECT art work for this pedal

I happen to have a couple of the boards, but there's no way I'll post mine in public now :(
(that's a compliment!)

I like Ben's boards! just finished a second Jules Caverne.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: lincolnic on March 23, 2014, 03:25:40 AM
That's just impossibly neat.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: billstein on March 24, 2014, 04:47:33 PM
Thanks guys for all the kind words. Sorry for not replying to the questions. When i get some time tonight I'll go through the thread and do my best to answer them.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: mah62 on March 25, 2014, 01:43:37 PM
Wow! I am speechless!

Mark
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Post by: atreidesheir on March 26, 2014, 12:35:09 AM
Yep. that is inspiring.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: billstein on March 26, 2014, 12:38:20 AM

Quote from: ncdb07 on March 22, 2014, 12:39:00 PM
Just a question: Did you paint the waferboard of the input/output jacks or did they come that way?

These are the cheap jacks from Tayda. They come that color.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: billstein on March 26, 2014, 01:05:53 AM

Quote from: jimilee on March 22, 2014, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: billstein on March 22, 2014, 06:09:59 AM

The graphics are a waterslide decal over the copper on a PCB then Envirotexed.
On a PCB? Could you clarify / explain how and what PCB you used?

Hey Jimi. I just cut a blank PCB to size and didn't etch any copper away. I drilled the holes and put the decal on then Envirotexed it all.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: jimilee on March 26, 2014, 01:06:35 AM

Quote from: billstein on March 26, 2014, 01:05:53 AM

Quote from: jimilee on March 22, 2014, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: billstein on March 22, 2014, 06:09:59 AM

The graphics are a waterslide decal over the copper on a PCB then Envirotexed.
On a PCB? Could you clarify / explain how and what PCB you used?

Hey Jimi. I just cut a blank PCB to size and didn't etch any copper away. I drilled the holes and put the decal on then Envirotexed it all.
Ooohhhh, cool
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: billstein on March 26, 2014, 01:09:55 AM

Quote from: bcalla on March 22, 2014, 01:24:39 PM
Stunning!!

How did you trim the copper board like that?  It's perfect.

I've got a technique I've come up with that makes it fairly simple. I took some pictures and I need to put it all together to explain it. I'll post these as soon as I get a chance.
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: Gledison on March 26, 2014, 08:29:34 AM

Quote from: billstein on March 26, 2014, 01:09:55 AM

Quote from: bcalla on March 22, 2014, 01:24:39 PM
Stunning!!

How did you trim the copper board like that?  It's perfect.

I've got a technique I've come up with that makes it fairly simple. I took some pictures and I need to put it all together to explain it. I'll post these as soon as I get a chance.
Great! Please keep us informed when you have time! I think that lots of pips here will be very interested on this!
Great job
Title: Re: Pharaoh Big Muff
Post by: AntKnee on March 27, 2014, 04:05:14 AM
That looks amazing!!!
I would really like to see what the artwork looked like before it had the copper behind it. I mean, how much did the copper fill it out? Was there a lot of white/clear that turned copper after you applied the decal?
Title: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: billstein on March 31, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
I've added some pictures on how I size the faceplate in the original post.
Title: Re: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: selfdestroyer on April 01, 2014, 05:29:32 AM
Quote from: billstein on March 31, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
I've added some pictures on how I size the faceplate in the original post.

Thanks for that.. plus that Current Lover faceplate looks GREAT. Such a detailed etch. I don't know why I never thought of sanding the faceplate while on the box.. so simple and yet so effective. Thanks for the walkthrough

Cody
Title: Re: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: mah62 on April 01, 2014, 08:23:33 AM
Thank you for taking the time to share this with everybody. Pure class!

Mark
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Post by: rullywowr on April 01, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Bill, that is totally sick!  Awesome tutorial, the Current Lover plate and "how to" are excellent. Thanks for sharing your technique.
Title: Re: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: billstein on April 01, 2014, 05:42:30 PM
Thanks again guys for the kind words. I'm glad I could give something back to the community.
Title: Re: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: nzCdog on April 01, 2014, 11:38:26 PM
Wow missed this one... very impressive build! 8)
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Post by: davent on April 01, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
Wow, wow, wow, the pictures look exceptional! The bar keeps getting higher and higher... where will it end?

Thanks for showing us how.
dave
Title: Re: Pharaoh NOW with faceplate sizing tips
Post by: billstein on April 01, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Thanks again everybody. I went back in and cleaned up some of the writing. I rushed this out late one night and it read like it. I'm not a great writer in the first placed but when rushed I'm really bad.

I also flipped a couple of pictures that were placed incorrectly.

Quote from: davent on April 01, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
The bar keeps getting higher and higher... where will it end?

I know. We all seem to be pushing each other higher and higher. Great situation to be in.