Hey everyone, it has been a long time since i made a report. Too long!
To remedy that, I present my 125b ehx small stone design (early version 1) with input buffer and output boost, using 3x LM13700. PCB mounted pot & switch, and the awesome kobiconn jacks (top mounted in this example) make for a very clean build.
Etched faceplate with famowood glaze coat (envirotex equiv). It was my first time using it and it came out pretty great. I kind of wish i had put it on a little thicker but it still looks very cool in person.
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k47/haber_dasher/Straight_zps3603dd91.jpg?t=1395845848)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k47/haber_dasher/angle_zpsfe9a7bb7.jpg?t=1395845813)
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k47/haber_dasher/guts_zps6505f768.jpg?t=1395845831)
I do have these pcb's for sale for any & all interested in building it. Here is the thread (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=14672.0) in the buy/sell trade room.
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k47/haber_dasher/Space_Harp_zpsfd0ed398.jpg?t=1395847510)
cheers!
did you ship my recent etch request yet?
If not, can you send me one of these along with it please?
Otherwise, we can work something out
looks awesome!
Beautiful. I really like white enclosures. The graphics just pop.
I'm loving this too! It is way smaller than my Mutron Phasor is going to be (sweet etch by the way! :)). Still though, where did you find those in/out jacks? They look about perfect for a tight build with top-mounted jacks.
Quote from: LaceSensor on March 26, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
did you ship my recent etch request yet?
If not, can you send me one of these along with it please?
Otherwise, we can work something out
looks awesome!
Thanks man!
yeah i have already mailed your other stuff but i did respond to your pork barrel thread in b/s/t
cheers
Cool man
Quote from: bcalla on March 26, 2014, 04:09:59 PM
Beautiful. I really like white enclosures. The graphics just pop.
thank you bcalla. this was a white powdercoat(?) from smallbear. i was satiisfied with the quality for sure.
Quote from: Bret608 on March 26, 2014, 04:28:01 PM
I'm loving this too! It is way smaller than my Mutron Phasor is going to be (sweet etch by the way! :)). Still though, where did you find those in/out jacks? They look about perfect for a tight build with top-mounted jacks.
Thanks, the nutron is a great phaser. Both are nice and worth having imho.
These (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail//161-MJ159M-EX/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugG6nxWCRzPm0lpMNHoxS2j7IjqmEbf5v5aLWJE0V%2fcLA%3d%3d) are the jacks. They're my favorites. AFAIK they only come in mono.
cheers
Spectacular looks and small stone is my favorite phaser so...I LOVE IT! It's a pitty yoiu don't post more builds dude, you do some astonishing work.
That is bitchin. Grade A bitchin. 8)
Man that is sweet. I'm looking to build a phaser and I can't decide between a small stone clone, the OTA that Brian has or something else.
Friggin so Awesome
Can't wait to build this thing
Dude freaking beautiful man. Love that enviro faceplate. Loving this thing more everyday too. I think ill go home and play mine tonight!
Gah, if I didn't have the Tonepad Ross phaser clone already in build, I'd have been all over this :(
Sweet build Keefe!
So clean, just wow.. simply wow.
Cody
Hey man. does that electro get in the way of the output jack? Does the cable not touch the electro?
Quote from: Jabulani Jonny on March 26, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
..... I can't decide between a small stone clone, the OTA that Brian has or something else.
I'm confused, why would you choose??? :P
Quote from: jimilee on March 27, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
Hey man. does that electro get in the way of the output jack? Does the cable not touch the electro?
you mean does the plug touch the electro? nope, not on mine.
Quote from: Haberdasher on March 27, 2014, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: jimilee on March 27, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
Hey man. does that electro get in the way of the output jack? Does the cable not touch the electro?
you mean does the plug touch the electro? nope, not on mine.
Yes
Quote from: jimilee on March 27, 2014, 01:18:17 AM
Quote from: Haberdasher on March 27, 2014, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: jimilee on March 27, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
Hey man. does that electro get in the way of the output jack? Does the cable not touch the electro?
you mean does the plug touch the electro? nope, not on mine.
Yes
ah, gotcha. using top mounted jacks, you could easily mount the pcb a little lower if you're worried about it. there's quite a bit of room between the lower edge of the pcb and the stomp switch.
with plug fully inserted:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/na3hivlwxd1hv40/2014-03-26%2020.06.46.jpg
No worries. Looks fine to me too.
Quote from: juansolo on March 26, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Gah, if I didn't have the Tonepad Ross phaser clone already in build, I'd have been all over this :(
Sweet build Keefe!
jilted for toanpad. now i am depressed. ;)
Why are you guys under the impression you can only have one phaser?
Quote from: Jabulani Jonny on March 26, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
Man that is sweet. I'm looking to build a phaser and I can't decide between a small stone clone, the OTA that Brian has or something else.
i have Brian's stage fright pcb here, but i haven't ever built it, so I can't compare the 2. i have certainly heard good reviews from the stage fright though. i like jimilee's idea though. build.all.of.them.
Wow! This looks great Duder! This may be the first build report of yours I've seen and it is very impressive. The echted faceplate is very... Haberdasherish! ;D
This IS a beauty! I'm a Small Stone fan as well and will now have to add your board to my to do list.
Any other sources for those kobiconn jacks?
Mousers shipping to NZ kills me.
Alternatively, will standard open jacks fit?
Quote from: jimilee on March 27, 2014, 01:41:09 AM
Why are you guys under the impression you can only have one phaser?
Right. I built the Stage Fright and it's awesome. I'm also on the list for the new Doppelganger board. And I think I'm going to send Keefe some business on the Space Harp too. Do I need 3 phasers? No. I do not. Do I have a phaser problem? Not until I start stuffing more than one in the same box (JIMI!).
thanks again everyone!
Quote from: the3secondrule on March 27, 2014, 02:21:11 AM
Any other sources for those kobiconn jacks?
Mousers shipping to NZ kills me.
Alternatively, will standard open jacks fit?
man, mouser is the only place i have ever found that carries them. and i looked around some, too.
I'm getting ready to hit the hay atm, but tomorrow i'll hold up a standard neutrik to it and see what the difference looks like. i think standard jacks would go, because i used the ggg 125 template to mark the top mount holes, and i have used that template before on other 125's and it was no problem. the one thing i can tell you i did differently, is i moved a little farther away from the pcb to mark the holes so they were closer to the bottom plate. just in case type of thing.
Super nice build...and awesome layout of the PCB. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "DipTrace". :)
Just got my pcbs for this project in the mail :)
And +100 on the StageFright, I've built 2 of these, I own an original MP1... ...in fact i bought it from Brian, so i believe it's the one he used as reference for his work on that layout. I'd say that it's 92% dead-on, the remaining 8% is a certain behavior of the original toward your playing dynamic, it's a bit more responsive to my ears.
'Nyway... Jimilee pointed it out right, build.them.all.
Quote from: Haberdasher on March 27, 2014, 01:38:51 AM
Quote from: juansolo on March 26, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Gah, if I didn't have the Tonepad Ross phaser clone already in build, I'd have been all over this :(
Sweet build Keefe!
jilted for toanpad. now i am depressed. ;)
LOL, i'm not cheating on you dude ;) It was one of Rej's old boards that he was selling off during a PCB blowout :P Honest!
Quote from: juansolo on March 27, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Haberdasher on March 27, 2014, 01:38:51 AM
Quote from: juansolo on March 26, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Gah, if I didn't have the Tonepad Ross phaser clone already in build, I'd have been all over this :(
Sweet build Keefe!
jilted for toanpad. now i am depressed. ;)
LOL, i'm not cheating on you dude ;) It was one of Rej's old boards that he was selling off during a PCB blowout :P Honest!
Hahaha!
It's within the "family" ;)
well yeah, i guess as long as you keep it in the family that's not too unsavory then. ;)
@ 3secondrule: i held a neutrik jack up to it and i think it's fine. the neutrik sticks into the enclosure a little farther so just take your time & eyeball/measure it carefully.
Quote from: das234 on March 27, 2014, 02:45:20 AM
Quote from: jimilee on March 27, 2014, 01:41:09 AM
Why are you guys under the impression you can only have one phaser?
Right. I built the Stage Fright and it's awesome. I'm also on the list for the new Doppelganger board. And I think I'm going to send Keefe some business on the Space Harp too. Do I need 3 phasers? No. I do not. Do I have a phaser problem? Not until I start stuffing more than one in the same box (JIMI!).
I can stop anytime man......
Thanks man! Measure twice and drill once as they say ;)
Quote from: Haberdasher on March 27, 2014, 07:59:33 PM
well yeah, i guess as long as you keep it in the family that's not too unsavory then. ;)
@ 3secondrule: i held a neutrik jack up to it and i think it's fine. the neutrik sticks into the enclosure a little farther so just take your time & eyeball/measure it carefully.
Looks great, Keefe! I missed seeing your builds around here.
Keefe, this is just fantastic. VERY nice, clean PCB layout.
http://elcodis.com/parts/2022820/161-MJ161M-EX.html#datasheet (http://elcodis.com/parts/2022820/161-MJ161M-EX.html#datasheet)
Don't know where to find them but while looking for the Kobicon mono jacks I found they do make stereo ones as well..
Quote from: lincolnic on March 28, 2014, 03:26:33 AM
Looks great, Keefe! I missed seeing your builds around here.
Thanks J! Appreciate the kind words my man.
Quote from: pickdropper on March 29, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
Keefe, this is just fantastic. VERY nice, clean PCB layout.
Thanks Dave. Any compliment from you is always a treat dude.
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 30, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
http://elcodis.com/parts/2022820/161-MJ161M-EX.html#datasheet (http://elcodis.com/parts/2022820/161-MJ161M-EX.html#datasheet)
Don't know where to find them but while looking for the Kobicon mono jacks I found they do make stereo ones as well..
ah, i have never seen those before, and i don't think i have ever seen kobiconn stuff for sale anywhere but mouser. as i do not generally use a battery snap in my stompboxes anymore, i probably wouldn't have the need.
So clean! Love the etch
Quote from: Stomptown on March 27, 2014, 01:46:36 AM
Wow! This looks great Duder! This may be the first build report of yours I've seen and it is very impressive. The echted faceplate is very... Haberdasherish! ;D
haha, thanks man. i'll try to get some more build reports out soon.
Quote from: sonarchotic on March 27, 2014, 01:50:38 AM
This IS a beauty! I'm a Small Stone fan as well and will now have to add your board to my to do list.
cool! still have some in stock so no worries.
Quote from: JakeFuzz on March 26, 2014, 06:07:20 PM
Dude freaking beautiful man. Love that enviro faceplate. Loving this thing more everyday too. I think ill go home and play mine tonight!
glad you like it mang. thanks again for doing that demo. 8)
Quote from: nzCdog on March 30, 2014, 11:23:43 PM
So clean! Love the etch
Thanks!
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 30, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
http://elcodis.com/parts/2022820/161-MJ161M-EX.html#datasheet (http://elcodis.com/parts/2022820/161-MJ161M-EX.html#datasheet)
Don't know where to find them but while looking for the Kobicon mono jacks I found they do make stereo ones as well..
Mouser show 120 in stock at present. http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/161-MJ161M-EX/?qs=0F0hBdgh9sTjHbvdXGPAcg==
However for the mono's i had in my cart, it now says 1000 pc minmum.
davent, those mono jacks show "not available" for me. i'd love to do a group buy for those jacks but i don't know if we'd get to 1000 pieces. I'd probably go for 100 myself, but that still leaves 900.
i've seen pics of this build with standard size side jacks and i'm fairly confident they, or any baby build types, would also work for top mounts.
I'd put them in my cart back when this thread came up so now in the cart, in red, has the 1000 min.
Just tried doing the minimum and get the not available message... so it goes.
dave
I haven't found a demo of this one on the forum that showcases the sounds that are more on the stock side so here ya go - https://soundcloud.com/kuato-design-stompboxes/small-stone-v1-clone-demo
I'll record a proper demo, a tune, like I like to do, later when I box it.
It is a strange one, the lower speeds are just fantastic and I don't hear much of a difference to my original 77 version 2, but as you turn the speed up, it becomes more and more rotovibey, and on the higher speeds it reaches a waveform that I am not really sure I like. Luckily, I always use my phasers, small stone included, on the lower end of the dial :)
Fantastic and super easy to work with board, super easy build, lectric-fx has done a fantastic work with this one!
(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10491284_10152653791486337_6128969358807597655_n.jpg?oh=59acca3e28aab04965d39d3446cac242&oe=54803A1B)
I got a cool slightly sparkly gold box, can't wait to put it in and then on my board. Cannot live without a small stone, small stone is the shiiiiiiiiit. :)
If you prefer the upper speeds of the V2, you can try removing C13, it acts as a low pass filter for the upper speeds to round off the wave form a bit to make them more pleasing but that's personal preference. It was only present in the V1 Small Stones.
Glad you're enjoying it! :)
so, basically, just connect the two pads on the pcb with a jumper, instead of putting C13? cool, gonna try it tomorrow. it really is quite triangular, it has a thing of it's own. I like it, although on faster speeds I prefer the version 2 waveform, but this is cool too. Still, will try C13.
also, no matter how I set the volume trimmer, the volume drop when on Color mode is a lot. I would advise, Keefe, that you make this a 3pdt in the next version, and put 2 trimers on the pcb, one for the color down sound and one for the color up sound, and then alternate between the two at the same time as when one is switching the sounds with the Color switch.
I miiiiiiight do this to my pedal but I will probably be too lazy. Still I think it would make for a fantastic next version guys.
Any other value changes that might de-triangulise it even more? Just askin'...the stock pedal is cool to with it's rotating phase sound, very unique :P
Quote from: Cortexturizer on August 18, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
so, basically, just connect the two pads on the pcb with a jumper, instead of putting C13? cool, gonna try it tomorrow. it really is quite triangular, it has a thing of it's own. I like it, although on faster speeds I prefer the version 2 waveform, but this is cool too. Still, will try C13.
also, no matter how I set the volume trimmer, the volume drop when on Color mode is a lot. I would advise, Keefe, that you make this a 3pdt in the next version, and put 2 trimers on the pcb, one for the color down sound and one for the color up sound, and then alternate between the two at the same time as when one is switching the sounds with the Color switch.
I miiiiiiight do this to my pedal but I will probably be too lazy. Still I think it would make for a fantastic next version guys.
Any other value changes that might de-triangulise it even more? Just askin'...the stock pedal is cool too with it's rotating phase sound, very unique :P
Quote from: Cortexturizer on August 18, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
so, basically, just connect the two pads on the pcb with a jumper, instead of putting C13? cool, gonna try it tomorrow. it really is quite triangular, it has a thing of it's own. I like it, although on faster speeds I prefer the version 2 waveform, but this is cool too. Still, will try C13.
also, no matter how I set the volume trimmer, the volume drop when on Color mode is a lot. I would advise, Keefe, that you make this a 3pdt in the next version, and put 2 trimers on the pcb, one for the color down sound and one for the color up sound, and then alternate between the two at the same time as when one is switching the sounds with the Color switch.
I miiiiiiight do this to my pedal but I will probably be too lazy. Still I think it would make for a fantastic next version guys.
Any other value changes that might de-triangulise it even more? Just askin'...the stock pedal is cool to with it's rotating phase sound, very unique :P
No sadly you can't just jumper it as then you'll have a short to ground. That cap pull should be enough, it's entire point
is to triangulate the waveform at high speeds to make it more pleasing, not much else you can do, the LFO is what it is, that should make it hyper-triangle (the wave form you get at the slower speeds) across its entire range though.
We did consider the two trim option but found it acceptable, guess it depends on your set up though, if we do another V1 run, taken on board :)
We also have considered doing a V2 and even V3 (the model with an LM324 & 2 x LM13600) small stone but that's up to demand.