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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 02:33:22 PM

Title: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 02:33:22 PM

I know there's a fair number of you...

Do you folks sand the enclosures before you coat? How deep a ding is too deep to cover up? How rough can the metal be and still be covered acceptably by the powder?
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: Jean-Rock on April 12, 2014, 02:49:25 PM
It depends of the enclosure quality. Most of the time, I use 320 or 400 and a quick pass of 600.
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 02:53:25 PM

Can you make it too smooth to the point it wouldn't take powder? Are some scratches actually beneficial?
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: wgc on April 12, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
I usually don't sand, just degrease and prebake. If I do sand, it's sandblasting so I get a little tooth but no scratches. A lot depends on the powder, how thick it builds, opacity, etc. I think some very fine scratches can help adhesion but bare cast aluminum should have plenty of pores so it's probably a wash.
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 04:03:25 PM

I was told that sandblasting aluminum is a big no-no, as the aluminum is so soft that the sand actually embeds itself in it and comes to surface during baking to ruin the finish? Nutshells and glassbeads may be a different story, though. Or I could be completely misinformed on that.

Not that I have the sandblasting facility anyways...  ::) I'm looking to set up some powdercoating in extremely unfavorable conditions so I'm trying to remove as much of the guesswork and trial and error from the process before I get going. Where I live we don't have garages or basements.   ;D


Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: Jean-Rock on April 12, 2014, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 02:53:25 PM

Can you make it too smooth to the point it wouldn't take powder? Are some scratches actually beneficial?
Try to avoid scratches or it will appear through the coating.
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 04:12:54 PM

Are we talking serious gouges or something left behind a 150grit paper?
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: Jean-Rock on April 12, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
I'd suggest not to go under 220
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: wgc on April 12, 2014, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: muddyfox on April 12, 2014, 04:03:25 PM

I was told that sandblasting aluminum is a big no-no, as the aluminum is so soft that the sand actually embeds itself in it and comes to surface during baking to ruin the finish? Nutshells and glassbeads may be a different story, though. Or I could be completely misinformed on that.

Not that I have the sandblasting facility anyways...  ::) I'm looking to set up some powdercoating in extremely unfavorable conditions so I'm trying to remove as much of the guesswork and trial and error from the process before I get going. Where I live we don't have garages or basements.   ;D

That can happen, but you can also wash and scrub the part degrease and prebake. A worse issue is that softer grades of aluminum with thin walls can erode through. I sandblast Hammond boxes frequently enough but with wash/scrub/degrease it hasn't been an issue.

Again usually I just degrease and prebake.  Sandblasting only parts I've stripped, to be recoated.
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: slimtriggers on April 12, 2014, 11:07:25 PM
I only sand if I'm doing a transparent/candy finish. 
Title: Re: Q for all you powdercoaters out there
Post by: rullywowr on April 13, 2014, 12:28:52 AM
I only sand if a clear/transparent as well. I prebake however and clean with acetone until no more black stuff comes off. So much easier than painting anyday :)