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Title: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: harpplayer on April 22, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Hi!

Finished my aquaboy deluxe yesterday, but I am not getting any delayed signal.

As it was late, I didn´t debug much, but I checked that there was voltage to the correct mn3005 pins, and the ground was also ok. Signal is getting loud and clear to the first bbd, on pin 7. (Both mn3005´s are tested and working on other build)

I could hear clock noise as well, when adjusting the clock trimmer.

Then I noticed I have soldered D3, which is only meant for V3205´s. I don´t think it can do any harm, but it dropped the voltage going to the bbd´s. The battery I used for testing had about 8v, and the bbd´s were receiving about 6,5v.

I am hoping that by removing d3 and using a power supply it will work, but I am at work now and it will take 8 hours to find out.... Sorry for sharing my frustration, lol.

Can anyone think of another possible issue?

Tks!
André
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: timbo_93631 on April 22, 2014, 11:36:33 AM
Remove D3, I made the same mistake on my first one.
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: harpplayer on April 22, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
Nice! Tks for the hope:)

In your case, no repeats were coming too?
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: timbo_93631 on April 22, 2014, 03:26:10 PM
Yep, no repeats with D3 in place.  MN3005's need more voltage to bias properly in the circuit and D3 is knocking it down too far.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: harpplayer on April 24, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
It works now! Glad it was only that. Thanks you.

I am using a vactrol there, and the range is quite nice, from slow to not super fast. But I can´t set the depth low enough... I am not using anything on R51 spot in parallel with the pot/ldr, but as far as I understood that will affect the range, not the depth.

Which values could I tweak to get a near to zero modulation with the depth pot set at minnimum?
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: harpplayer on April 24, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
I meant R56, not 51...
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: jighead81 on April 25, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
I'm having the same problem, I left off D2, but added D3 for some reason. I just started my shift and can't check it until after work. Hope that's the same thing!


Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: timbo_93631 on April 25, 2014, 05:04:46 PM
Here is the link to my build report: http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=13107.msg119996#msg119996 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=13107.msg119996#msg119996)

To make the modulation more useable I switched these things:
-modulation Depth Pot changed to 500k
-R50 and R51 switched to 5k1
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: harpplayer on April 25, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
Nice build!!! Thank you very much for the help!

I´d go for the pot as I used a 500k on a previous build and the responde was more adequate, but I though it could have something to do with the ldr combo I used instead of the vactrol.

Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: jighead81 on April 25, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
Hey Tim, did you just jumper D3, or leave it empty?


Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: timbo_93631 on April 26, 2014, 03:29:10 AM
Provided that you are using an MN3008/3005's with MN3101 or MN3102, omit D3 and do not jumper.  You only use it with V3205/MN3101.  Also with MN3005 and 3008's omit D2, do not jumper.  Hope you guys get this sorted...sorted...sorted...sorted...   ;D
Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: jighead81 on April 26, 2014, 03:50:36 AM
Never installed D2, now D3 is removed. Still having the same issue.  When I probe pin 3 of IC3 I get dry audio with no delay. Tested, working MN3005 's. Jumpers look good. I'm gonna keep hackin away!


Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: jighead81 on April 26, 2014, 03:51:43 AM
I bet I've got some components set up for v3205 and some for MN3005's


Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: twin1965 on April 26, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
What clock are you using and what are the voltage readings?

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Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: twin1965 on April 26, 2014, 11:14:56 AM
What clock are you using and what are the voltage readings?

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Title: Re: Aquaboy Deluxe issue
Post by: jighead81 on April 26, 2014, 12:40:26 PM
Got it working when I put in both IC's, but I've got some distortion on the repeats. I can't get a delay signal when I remove IC4 to calibrate IC3.  I'm using an MN3101 clock. Both IC's are getting the correct voltage, not sure about the clock though. When I plug in 15V to the abdx, my multimeter reads a drop down to 10v, just getting a reading from power in to the effect. Not sure if this is normal.