Tuskproto
Not much to say really, it's a straight Klone in a 1590B form factor using Rej's Tusk PCB.
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/tuskproto-o.jpg)
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/tuskproto-i.jpg)
Small Mexican Dog
Another. This one has some art provided by Ian Price, for whom the pedal was made.
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/smd-o.jpg)
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/smd-i.jpg)
Dumberoid
Where to start with this one... This is a clone of a 'boutique' OD that was the latest thing to be hyped out of all proportion on TGP. Mainly because it's name had the D word in it and it was $600.
Long story short; it's a Tube Screamer with lots of different parts thrown fairly randomly at it. It actually sounds pretty good now I've got it right. It doesn't in any way justify the price tag though. Especially when you see the state of the original...
To prove a point, I built it on a generic Poodle Pedal Parts Tube Screamer board and altered their schematic (http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/schematics/Poodle/Dumberoid.jpg) should you wish to do the same.
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/dumb-o.jpg)
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/dumb-i.jpg)
The Dumberoid looks great and all, but you're never going to sell it with wiring that neat.
Wait, I thought it was just a single LED and no opposed diode?
The first four letters of that name pretty much sums up that whole $600 debacle.
Supertight. Hype-boxes done right.
Quote from: midwayfair on April 29, 2014, 06:07:55 PM
Wait, I thought it was just a single LED and no opposed diode?
Yep, in the second stage. The accent control is essentially gain on the 2nd stage.
Well done mate! 8)
Now that you've put them together, is the goal of having the easiest fastest klone to populated achieved?
That Dumbloid.... pfff! Can't beleive how people are dumb! lol
Nice looking tho!
Less than 2hrs beginning to end I think. That was starting with an unpopulated board and a completed enclosure (with the power jack in the wrong place DOH! Just habit putting them in the side). It'd take a lot less time with a couple more done. Board took about 40 mins. I was also taking my time. I think an hour end to end is possible...
So yeah, fastest klone ever!
Quote from: pickdropper on April 29, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
The Dumberoid looks great and all, but you're never going to sell it with wiring that neat.
I was going to sell it before the tweaks when I found it unpleasant. I'm quite embarrassed about the fact that I quite liked it today... :-[
Quote from: juansolo on April 29, 2014, 09:01:13 PM
I'm quite embarrassed about the fact that I quite liked it today... :-[
Don't be. Loads of people love that core circuit. ;)
LOL. It's amusing the amount of denial that's going on about it being a screamer deep down.
Quote from: juansolo on April 29, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
Less than 2hrs beginning to end I think. That was starting with an unpopulated board and a completed enclosure (with the power jack in the wrong place DOH! Just habit putting them in the side). It'd take a lot less time with a couple more done. Board took about 40 mins. I was also taking my time. I think an hour end to end is possible...
So yeah, fastest klone ever!
Nice!
I think the last one i did... last week took me 2hours complete, from undrilled/unfinished enclosure, unpopulated board.... makes my hour rate wage way bettter than before! lulz
The uBer Klone 3PDT daughter boards are in the mail as i'm writing this... will send you a sneak peak... tomorrow or so.;)
It's not a big deal to twist a couple of wires ;) You'd only notice if someone pointed it out.
Juan, you might want to try a blue LED antiparallel to the red one. That would avoid the op amp clipping but keep the asymmetrical clipping.
Way overplayed, but I'll do it anyway...
Bet they'd take longer on a card table.
Really nice!
Very Nice!
Man I wish there was some tusk boards for sale.
Quote from: midwayfair on April 29, 2014, 10:41:46 PM
Juan, you might want to try a blue LED antiparallel to the red one. That would avoid the op amp clipping but keep the asymmetrical clipping.
Probably going to leave it stock (well it's got a different op amp, but otherwise it's stock). That way if I decide it irritates me again, I'll stick it on eBay. I was planning on getting shot of it anyhow before I had another go with it yesterday as I simply wasn't keen on it.
It'd also test a theory I have with boutique effects as I'll list it at what I consider to be sensible money (also neatly made and without goop)... I might even do it anyway just as an experiment. I'll have to start it nice and low so I can send it to the US.
I think I might have talked myself into it... Errp. Bear with me a second...
Let the experiment commence! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=331190257688)
Now to subtly stick that on TGP...
The Mexican Dog is great! Knobs matched to the flag colors and everything. That's my kind of design.
Juan,
So tempted to click the Ask seller a question button.
"Isn't this basically a tube screamer?"
So, John did you manage to get kicked off TGP again? That thread was an awesome trainwreck, I was quite enjoying it.
Quote from: midwayfair on April 30, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
So, John did you manage to get kicked off TGP again? That thread was an awesome trainwreck, I was quite enjoying it.
Ahhhhh!!!! Not enought time!
Please link... 8)
I loved how the shills accused other people of shilling.
Quote from: culturejam on April 30, 2014, 07:38:31 PM
I loved how the shills accused other people of shilling.
My favorite was the Big Bloom guy posting that he wished he could spam like that.
^^ You've probably noticed that there are three guys that always post in any thread about "Shin" product. Usually, one of the three starts the thread, and then others jump in shortly thereafter. Gotta be some kind of shill network.
Always so tidy! nice builds dude ;D
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on April 30, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on April 30, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
So, John did you manage to get kicked off TGP again? That thread was an awesome trainwreck, I was quite enjoying it.
Ahhhhh!!!! Not enought time!
Please link... 8)
LOL, I've been away at Silverstone (racetrack) the last three days, so I literally set events in motion and left. It's been carnage hasn't it! ;D
BUT, I'll give them their due, they've definitely got a bit more laid back with the moderation. If I was going to get my third strike I really thought that'd have been it (I was hoping for it to be fair... I've been wanting an excuse to stay away from TGP for a bit). But nope, other than shutting the thread, nothing. Just as it was getting interesting too!
Shame. Ah well, it provided a bit of entertainment. I haven't even looked on ebay yet to see if anyone's actually bothered to bid on it.
It's here anyhow - http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1412993
Gets fun in the last few pages. But the early stuff is enlightening also.
Update: LOL, had a look, 82 views, no bids. Not a surprise in the slightest. I'm gonna goop it if it doesn't sell, wrap it up in some flowery bullshit then list it at $200. All part of the experimentage :)
Taken from the TGP link above when talking about FSB making a clone.
QuoteEventually they may get it right. But I feel sorry for the people who think they are playing an exact tonal copy, which in fact they are not. Cheers
This just kills me.. where are these people getting these magic components that no one else can buy? I really liken this whole hobby to build model cars or plans. 6 people make the same model plane, sure some will look better then others but they are all from the same parts and used the same glue.. no real magic..
New Update: There's a bidder!
I was going to "ask the seller" if that price included a bottle of DIY mystery goop but I didn't want to sabotage the experiment.
All the seller questions only displayed for everyone if the seller answers and chooses to share the question and answer. In effect.. it's shouldn't
Quote from: selfdestroyer on May 02, 2014, 10:34:25 PM
Taken from the TGP link above when talking about FSB making a clone.
QuoteEventually they may get it right. But I feel sorry for the people who think they are playing an exact tonal copy, which in fact they are not. Cheers
This just kills me.. where are these people getting these magic components that no one else can buy? I really liken this whole hobby to build model cars or plans. 6 people make the same model plane, sure some will look better then others but they are all from the same parts and used the same glue.. no real magic..
They're not getting an exact copy because FSB almost immediately found ways to improve the circuit. I think that's what the post is talking about. The original sounds like crap.
Yeah, it's horrible if you build it 'standard'. There's a buzzing on note decay that's genuinely unpleasant and far more apparent in the flesh than it is on the demos. Though when you know what you're listening for, you can hear it plain as day even on YouTube. Someone on FSB went through a load of op amps until he found one that clipped in a much more pleasant manner. We tried everything we had and got one in of the type he mentioned and it was a vast improvement. The other change was a resistor that messes with the bottom end. It was a bit mushy when we first built it. A recommendation by Rydell to trim the lower frequencies a bit soon tamed that.
It's a MUCH better sounding effect than it was for the changes. To the point that I actually think it sounds pretty good now. I'd never use it if I kept it, so selling it was always an option. So it became an experiment. Stick a sensible, non-piss takey price on it. Say what it is (hell there's even a link on the auction back to the site where they can read all about it) and see what happens.
I really hoped it wouldn't sell as I have every intention of gooping it and re-listing it at £200 :)
Quote from: das234 on May 02, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
New Update: There's a bidder!
I was going to "ask the seller" if that price included a bottle of DIY mystery goop but I didn't want to sabotage the experiment.
I really need to keep looking in on that. It's Cleggy's ebay account so it doesn't e-mail me when anything happens.
Looks great, as usual.
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Quote from: juansolo on May 03, 2014, 07:37:43 AM
Quote from: das234 on May 02, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
New Update: There's a bidder!
I was going to "ask the seller" if that price included a bottle of DIY mystery goop but I didn't want to sabotage the experiment.
I really need to keep looking in on that. It's Cleggy's ebay account so it doesn't e-mail me when anything happens.
Well if there's no more bids, I reckon after all the fees, costs and sendage, I'll actually end up with £30 in pocket for 2hrs work...
People wonder why I don't do this for a living ;)
Well, I would go raise the bid on it. BUT, it's just a Tube Screamer.
Indeed ;D
I'd rather not have any shilling also. It's an experiment :) Plus I'm really not bothered about making money on it. it's already covered my costs/time. I want to see how much the hype is actually worth. I think we can agree I've made it as well as the original and the half priced clone of it. So it's purely down to the hype/marketing. It appeared on TGP where the cork sniffers could see it, I've been ultra-clear about what it is.
Currently a bloke in Ireland is the only bidder. Good luck to him!
Yeah, your experiment is definitely lacking the hype. But if you hype it too much you'll have to get a bigger card table.
Quote from: juansolo on April 29, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
... Mainly because it's name had the D word in it and it was $600. ...
Sometimes i wonder if i happen to be NOT nerdy enuff, because ie here i dont have a clue what you're talkin about 8) ... not read through the whole thread though.
Its good to view your builds, cuz when i feel like ive completed something neat, i can check your stuff and avoid hubris ;D ...
Wonderful work as always! keep up the good wörk!
Mythical pedals that sounds like mythical amps... Allegedly. Calling it something that's a derivative of Dumble, then selling it for an outrageous amount of money, whilst hiding what the circuit actually is with goop all adds to the mystery and appeal for some people.
Essentially they're all fishing for the next Klon and haven't yet realised that it was a bit of a one off and that most boutiquers aren't much more than chancers and con artists.
Quote from: juansolo on May 06, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
Mythical pedals that sounds like mythical amps... Allegedly. Calling it something that's a derivative of Dumble, then selling it for an outrageous amount of money, whilst hiding what the circuit actually is with goop all adds to the mystery and appeal for some people.
Essentially they're all fishing for the next Klon and haven't yet realised that it was a bit of a one off and that most boutiquers aren't much more than chancers and con artists.
SHHHHHHHH
You're gonna give away the secret sauce!