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Projects => General Questions => Topic started by: richiekotzen on May 19, 2014, 12:52:51 PM

Title: Klon confusion
Post by: richiekotzen on May 19, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
I found several projects including the klon centaur sunking
and now I have more doubts than before,
what are the exact values​​?
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: richiekotzen on May 19, 2014, 12:53:12 PM
and this
Title: Klon doubts
Post by: richiekotzen on May 19, 2014, 02:01:59 PM
I found several projects including the klon centaur sunking
and now I have more doubts than before,
what are the exact values​​?
Title: Re: Klon doubts
Post by: richiekotzen on May 19, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
and this,there are some different values
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: selfdestroyer on May 19, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
The Sunking, as far as I know, if not a direct clone of the Klon but a simplified version. "More than one way to skin a cat" kind of thing.

The Sunking project of Madbeans has had a few revisions. The last build doc I have for the Sunking (not the newer Sunking 2) Ver.3 10.15.10 and is the layout I would use if you want to etch it yourself. If you are going to buy a PCB I would do the Sunking 2.

Hope this helps.

Cody
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: jkokura on May 19, 2014, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on May 19, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
The Sunking, as far as I know, if not a direct clone of the Klon but a simplified version. "More than one way to skin a cat" kind of thing.

Actually, the Sunking IS the direct clone. It's the Kingslayer which is an adapted version that's similar or improved.

Jacob
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: jkokura on May 19, 2014, 05:59:48 PM
Further, you don't need to post your question multiple times in different areas. This is probably the best place.

Anyway, the images you've posted are for projects that aren't from members here I believe. They're other people's ideas on what to do with the klon circuit. If you want to build a Klone, there are many options, and you should go with the Sunking for values.

Jacob
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: Blues Healer on May 19, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
I'm no electronics expert, but I just want to make a general statement about "different values": sometimes you may see values that differ from an original circuit, or values that differ in revisions of the same circuit, but it may be done to arrive at the same frequency response, such as in high-pass or low-pass filters; I've also seen this technique used in order to use more common parts values.
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: selfdestroyer on May 19, 2014, 10:03:03 PM
Quote from: jkokura on May 19, 2014, 05:53:27 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on May 19, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
The Sunking, as far as I know, if not a direct clone of the Klon but a simplified version. "More than one way to skin a cat" kind of thing.

Actually, the Sunking IS the direct clone. It's the Kingslayer which is an adapted version that's similar or improved.

Jacob

Thanks for the clarification. I just really thought Brian removed some un-needed crap from the original on the Sunking. My bad.

Cody
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: richiekotzen on May 20, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: madbean on May 20, 2014, 02:07:14 PM
The values on the Green PCB version of the Sagg Charger are the correct ones. The ones on the Gray PCB are from Martin's original trace. He later went back and re-examined it finding several incorrect values, hence the updated Green version.
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: richiekotzen on May 20, 2014, 02:10:50 PM
Quote from: madbean on May 20, 2014, 02:07:14 PM
The values on the Green PCB version of the Sagg Charger are the correct ones. The ones on the Gray PCB are from Martin's original trace. He later went back and re-examined it finding several incorrect values, hence the updated Green version.


ok now I understand
thanks
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: AntKnee on May 20, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
I love your new band, Winery Dogs, btw.
;D
Title: Re: Klon confusion
Post by: richiekotzen on May 20, 2014, 02:56:35 PM
 ;)

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