Placed my first order with Pedal Parts Plus.....
$13.00 shipping :o
wasn't ready for that one
Yeah, that's the only thing that usually stops me from using them. The shipping is way too expensive. They really should use USPS. they would get a lot more of my business.
I've had them charge me that much before but then refund me back like half of it after the order actually shipped. That was with the USPS option for what it's worth...
Imagine what it's like when you don't live in the US.....I usually bank on 33% of the order value. :'(
In fairness, they will also refund you afterwards if they overcharge, it's happened to me on every order.
Still the best enclosures out there by far.
I've only used them once for an order to Canada but was pleasantly surprised at how low the shipping cost was. The shipping option they recommended was bloody expensive so went with the cheap not-recommended option and it was smooth, cheap sailing.
Quote from: GermanCdn on June 09, 2014, 02:54:22 PM
Imagine what it's like when you don't live in the US.....I usually bank on 33% of the order value. :'(
In fairness, they will also refund you afterwards if they overcharge, it's happened to me on every order.
Still the best enclosures out there by far.
+1 on this. Their enclosures are great!
My order literally had one enclosure, 10 transistors, and some washers.
I almost canceled it but I needed a 1590BB "Tall" which PPP calls 1690, Mammoth calls 1590BBT.....
I have had enclosures from Mammoth that chipped so I went with PPP.
In the future, anywhere else where you can get "tall" 1590BB?
on a side note, I went to drill my enclosure for my Flying Pan (Soaring Skillet) and thought I could get away with a 1590BB even though BYOC shows it with a tall 1590BB.
Anyway, finished drilling everything and realized that my pots on won't allow for my front i/o jacks.
So frustrating. One of those moments where I felt so damn stupid.
How tall is tall? "BBS" is slightly taller and the "C" much taller and a little bigger (just a smidgen because of the sloped sides) in the other dimensions. Big guys like Mouser and such should have those.
http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg.htm
The tall 1590BB are also called 125BBs. Not that that opens up a whole lot more options for you in terms of supply, but it's another reference point nonetheless.
And yes, messing up enclosures is a PITA. I almost always build one size up now just to make it so I don't have to be ultra precise. That, and I hate side mounted power jacks.
i always topmounted the powerjacks until i got a handful of Joshs 3pdt boards with that side power jack hole. for better or worse, now its all i use
Quote from: GermanCdn on June 09, 2014, 02:54:22 PM
Imagine what it's like when you don't live in the US.....I usually bank on 33% of the order value. :'(
In fairness, they will also refund you afterwards if they overcharge, it's happened to me on every order.
Still the best enclosures out there by far.
Same story here,
Mich P.
Quote from: davent on June 09, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
How tall is tall? "BBS" is slightly taller and the "C" much taller and a little bigger (just a smidgen because of the sloped sides) in the other dimensions. Big guys like Mouser and such should have those.
http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg.htm
Yeah, I am not even sure which one the "tall" falls into
PPP listed the dimensions as 4.70" X 3.70" X 2.22" for their 1690
Mammoth listed their 1590BBT 4.67" x 3.68" x 1.95"
All I know is I needed something taller to have some space for the i/o to sit under the pots.
I couldn't find taller 1590 at Mouser. I tried 125BB and didn't get anything either.
Quote from: flanagan0718 on June 09, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Yeah, that's the only thing that usually stops me from using them. The shipping is way too expensive. They really should use USPS. they would get a lot more of my business.
They do use USPS. There's a dropdown menu for shipping options. FWIW, enclosures easily get over the 1lb limit for first class, and then you're in priority where it's determined by weight. Their site estimates weight. Sometimes it's wrong and they might reimburse you.
Peak, I just put a 125BB, 10 transistors, and 10 washers in my cart. The shipping options included first class for $5, and priority for $7.10. UPS was $13. I'm not sure what shipping option you chose, but even if the exact package you put together was a little heavier, shipping shouldn't have even been $10.
Quote from: peAk on June 09, 2014, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: davent on June 09, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
How tall is tall? "BBS" is slightly taller and the "C" much taller and a little bigger (just a smidgen because of the sloped sides) in the other dimensions. Big guys like Mouser and such should have those.
http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg.htm
Yeah, I am not even sure which one the "tall" falls into
PPP listed the dimensions as 4.70" X 3.70" X 2.22" for their 1690
Mammoth listed their 1590BBT 4.67" x 3.68" x 1.95"
All I know is I needed something taller to have some space for the i/o to sit under the pots.
I couldn't find taller 1590 at Mouser. I tried 125BB and didn't get anything either.
I primarily use Digikey, great for me in Canada but i know Mouser is handy for you so mentioned them.
Use the search engine Octopart, it goes through the inventory of a slew of big suppliers to find your part number. Surprised to see Mouser doesn't have the "c" (close to the dimensions you listed) but Digikey does as well as a few others.
http://octopart.com/partsearch#!?q=1590c
Mouser does have the "BBs" though.
http://octopart.com/partsearch#!?q=1590bbs&start=0&limit=10
dave
Quote from: midwayfair on June 09, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on June 09, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Yeah, that's the only thing that usually stops me from using them. The shipping is way too expensive. They really should use USPS. they would get a lot more of my business.
They do use USPS. There's a dropdown menu for shipping options. FWIW, enclosures easily get over the 1lb limit for first class, and then you're in priority where it's determined by weight. Their site estimates weight. Sometimes it's wrong and they might reimburse you.
Peak, I just put a 125BB, 10 transistors, and 10 washers in my cart. The shipping options included first class for $5, and priority for $7.10. UPS was $13. I'm not sure what shipping option you chose, but even if the exact package you put together was a little heavier, shipping shouldn't have even been $10.
The default shipping that came up was USPS Priority which was showing a crazy amount of $27, so I went with the lesser price of UPS ground that was $13.04.
Maybe the priority would have ended up cheaper but there was no way I was going to take a chance on $27 shipping on an order that probably weighed a pound at most.
Quote from: davent on June 09, 2014, 05:17:20 PM
Use the search engine Octopart, it goes through the inventory of a slew of big suppliers to find your part number. Surprised to see Mouser doesn't have the "c" (close to the dimensions you listed) but Digikey does as well as a few others.
http://octopart.com/partsearch#!?q=1590c
Mouser does have the "BBs" though.
http://octopart.com/partsearch#!?q=1590bbs&start=0&limit=10
dave
Thanks Dave, bookmarked Octopart!
Quote from: peAk on June 09, 2014, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on June 09, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on June 09, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Yeah, that's the only thing that usually stops me from using them. The shipping is way too expensive. They really should use USPS. they would get a lot more of my business.
They do use USPS. There's a dropdown menu for shipping options. FWIW, enclosures easily get over the 1lb limit for first class, and then you're in priority where it's determined by weight. Their site estimates weight. Sometimes it's wrong and they might reimburse you.
Peak, I just put a 125BB, 10 transistors, and 10 washers in my cart. The shipping options included first class for $5, and priority for $7.10. UPS was $13. I'm not sure what shipping option you chose, but even if the exact package you put together was a little heavier, shipping shouldn't have even been $10.
The default shipping that came up was USPS Priority which was showing a crazy amount of $27, so I went with the lesser price of UPS ground that was $13.04.
Maybe the priority would have ended up cheaper but there was no way I was going to take a chance on $27 shipping on an order that probably weighed a pound at most.
Priority 1-day or whatever it is comes up as $27 with that cart. I think you need to populate the same cart and recheck the shipping charges for next time. Regular priority and first class are right below the first option. I have to put at least three enclosures in my cart before UPS at $13 is the cheapest shipping option.
Where are the enclosures shipping to? If UPS is the shipper, the destination zip code makes a significant difference.
Quote from: midwayfair on June 09, 2014, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: peAk on June 09, 2014, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on June 09, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on June 09, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Yeah, that's the only thing that usually stops me from using them. The shipping is way too expensive. They really should use USPS. they would get a lot more of my business.
They do use USPS. There's a dropdown menu for shipping options. FWIW, enclosures easily get over the 1lb limit for first class, and then you're in priority where it's determined by weight. Their site estimates weight. Sometimes it's wrong and they might reimburse you.
Peak, I just put a 125BB, 10 transistors, and 10 washers in my cart. The shipping options included first class for $5, and priority for $7.10. UPS was $13. I'm not sure what shipping option you chose, but even if the exact package you put together was a little heavier, shipping shouldn't have even been $10.
The default shipping that came up was USPS Priority which was showing a crazy amount of $27, so I went with the lesser price of UPS ground that was $13.04.
Maybe the priority would have ended up cheaper but there was no way I was going to take a chance on $27 shipping on an order that probably weighed a pound at most.
Priority 1-day or whatever it is comes up as $27 with that cart. I think you need to populate the same cart and recheck the shipping charges for next time. Regular priority and first class are right below the first option. I have to put at least three enclosures in my cart before UPS at $13 is the cheapest shipping option.
Okay, well that's good to know. I was doing it through my phone so maybe I missed some other options. Our company's filter blocks the checkout portion of PPP website so I had to do it on my phone.
I have been happy with my painted enclosures from Mouser (limited colors) and Smallbear (also somewhat limited) so I wanted to give PPP a shot since you guys like them a lot.
I haven't used PPP yet, but just placed my first order with Lawrence from BLMS. Shipping was 16$ to Austria, that's half the price of my order. It's still a little cheaper though :)
I just don't get the shipping costs generally. Germany-Austria: 8,50€ non-tracked, 16€ tracked; US-Austria: 16.5$; Singapore-Austria: 4$ tracked!?!? makes no sense to me what so ever...
Next PPP order I'll have to pay attention to what the shipping actually says.
Quote from: pickdropper on June 09, 2014, 06:59:35 PM
Where are the enclosures shipping to? If UPS is the shipper, the destination zip code makes a significant difference.
Looks like they are in Lousiana and I am in Texas.....so at least the shipping will probably be like 1 day or so.
So I will just imagine that I am paying next day air fees :P
Quote from: peAk on June 09, 2014, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on June 09, 2014, 06:59:35 PM
Where are the enclosures shipping to? If UPS is the shipper, the destination zip code makes a significant difference.
Looks like they are in Lousiana and I am in Texas.....so at least the shipping will probably be like 1 day or so.
So I will just imagine that I am paying next day air fees :P
Yeah, and I think Jon is farther away, so it's really odd that his shipping estimate would be lower.
Quote from: pickdropper on June 09, 2014, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: peAk on June 09, 2014, 08:00:18 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on June 09, 2014, 06:59:35 PM
Where are the enclosures shipping to? If UPS is the shipper, the destination zip code makes a significant difference.
Looks like they are in Lousiana and I am in Texas.....so at least the shipping will probably be like 1 day or so.
So I will just imagine that I am paying next day air fees :P
Yeah, and I think Jon is farther away, so it's really odd that his shipping estimate would be lower.
I think Jon said UPS for $13 for him as well.
Quote from: m-Kresol on June 09, 2014, 07:28:54 PM
I haven't used PPP yet, but just placed my first order with Lawrence from BLMS. Shipping was 16$ to Austria, that's half the price of my order. It's still a little cheaper though :)
I just don't get the shipping costs generally. Germany-Austria: 8,50€ non-tracked, 16€ tracked; US-Austria: 16.5$; Singapore-Austria: 4$ tracked!?!? makes no sense to me what so ever...
The key is not to think about it. If I actually put my mind to figuring out why I can order a 24" X 16" X 5" box of stuff from Tayda for less than I can ship a pedal across the city in which I live, I think my brain would explode.....
Not too long ago I did a little quest with the Canada Post's online shipping calculator, same package sent to my old address a few blocks away and sent to an address i've used in Pennsylvania hundreds of miles away, an international delivery. Cheapest option available was for delivery to the address in Pennsylvania.
Quote from: GermanCdn on June 09, 2014, 09:36:23 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on June 09, 2014, 07:28:54 PM
I haven't used PPP yet, but just placed my first order with Lawrence from BLMS. Shipping was 16$ to Austria, that's half the price of my order. It's still a little cheaper though :)
I just don't get the shipping costs generally. Germany-Austria: 8,50€ non-tracked, 16€ tracked; US-Austria: 16.5$; Singapore-Austria: 4$ tracked!?!? makes no sense to me what so ever...
The key is not to think about it. If I actually put my mind to figuring out why I can order a 24" X 16" X 5" box of stuff from Tayda for less than I can ship a pedal across the city in which I live, I think my brain would explode.....
Cheapo countries have cheapo shipping? Methinks that when you don't have to pay Western wages, social security and pension benefits to your employees, keep up shareholder values to your stock owners and make out a huge ass bonus to your Exec then yeah, shipping costs could be a lot lower.
I've also found the shipping to be high, nice stuff though, but glad I can powdercoat. Oddly the shipping on powder is high too.
Peak, you might be able to salvage your enclosure by using smaller jacks and 9mm pots?
Quote from: wgc on June 10, 2014, 01:00:15 PM
I've also found the shipping to be high, nice stuff though, but glad I can powdercoat. Oddly the shipping on powder is high too.
Peak, you might be able to salvage your enclosure by using smaller jacks and 9mm pots?
yeah, not sure. I can post a pic later and see if anyone has any ideas for that or possibly another effect that can use the swiss cheese enclosure I have made. The other problem is that the front of the pedal has three i/o jacks (stereo effect) and a 9volt plug. I guess I could stick a switch there or something. Whole thing was kind of a bummer because the enclosure has a cool, textured finish.
I will definitely post a pic later and see what ideas people have.
If worse comes to worse and you need to move holes to the sides, Mouser have black nylon snap in hole plugs that really take nothing away from the look of the pedal, have used them a few times, they're great.
http://ca.mouser.com/Wire-Cable/Wire-Protection-Management/Cable-Mounting-Accessories/_/N-apvm6?P=1yzrp7v&Keyword=nylon+hole+plugs&FS=True
dave
Quote from: davent on June 10, 2014, 02:34:01 PM
If worse comes to worse and you need to move holes to the sides, Mouser have black nylon snap in hole plugs that really take nothing away from the look of the pedal, have used them a few times, they're great.
http://ca.mouser.com/Wire-Cable/Wire-Protection-Management/Cable-Mounting-Accessories/_/N-apvm6?P=1yzrp7v&Keyword=nylon+hole+plugs&FS=True
dave
wow Dave, these are great. I am not sure if I will be able to move the jacks to the side but either way, these things are great to know about.
My enclosure is black too!
Actually, looking at the photo from the build doc, looks like side jacks would work.
Man, if you had only gave me this advice prior to ordering another enclosure!! ...haha
Well, if this works, I will have to figure out what to do with the "tall" 1590BB coming ???
bummer, the pic from the build document is of course with the taller enclosure and it gave me the false sense that I could fit side jacks.
Once I got home and checked it out, the rotary switch is pcb mounted and it puts the pcb around mid way of the height of the enclosure. I don't think it's possible to sneak an I/o jack underneath or on top of the pcb. Some of you pros might be able to but I just don't think I can.
...but at least Dave showed me those hole plugs and I can just use this for something else.