Hi
A friend of mine loves pete cornish and had owned all the pedals at one point.
Luckily for his bank account he is not a hoarder but a 1-in-1-out guy, so actually doesnt own them anymore
It got me thinking though about making some clones just to see what the fuss is all about, because he just gushes over them
So, can anyone tell me what clones are available to build and do they include the (in)famous buffer circuitry, or do you bolt that on after?
thanks!
:LS
Darkside was a G2. Nice as a thickener with a Strat. Bit of a one trick pony.
However, I made one for a guy and it's never left his board since I built it. So I definitely think that if it's what you're after, it might be the bollocks.
There was that ludicrously awesome etched Cornish dual recently. Embarrassingly I can't remember who did it, I think the sheer impressiveness of it stunned me a little. Will have to search...
EDIT: It was Jason! *blushes* It is hewn from the purest of awesome: http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=14813.0
I've got an updated (but unreleased) Darkside etching project if you wanna try it out. It has the buffer on a separate PCB so it might be just the thing for you. But, you gotta etch it.
how is the buffer hooked up?
I could be interested ;) :)
In this one, the buffer is meant to be bypassed in effect mode. The main PCB still has the other input buffer.
The allure in the Cornish stuff is the name for most people IMO. And also the (some might say bullshit) sense of prestige it seems to give some people.
I built a G2 ages ago but wasn't really blown away by it. Plenty people like em though.
I think the actual tone of his stuff is an afterthought for most punters.
They are built like tanks though. No doubt about that!
Seeing these for sale really slanted my view on the cost-to-value ratio of their stuff though:
http://www.gak.co.uk/en/pete-cornish-pedal-link-cable-20cm-angle-straight/32249 (http://www.gak.co.uk/en/pete-cornish-pedal-link-cable-20cm-angle-straight/32249)
struggling to get my head around how one would wire that. Im probably just being dumb.
Very easy to wire. Just switch the ins and outs from one PCB to another. It's just toggling two effects with a single switch.
Quote from: raulduke on July 04, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
Seeing these for sale really slanted my view on the cost-to-value ratio of their stuff though:
http://www.gak.co.uk/en/pete-cornish-pedal-link-cable-20cm-angle-straight/32249 (http://www.gak.co.uk/en/pete-cornish-pedal-link-cable-20cm-angle-straight/32249)
Aaaaaaargh. Coming from the world of HiFi, I despise anyone instantly that flogs the snake oil that is expensive cables.
I was going to do it myself (JuanCables, yes that was intentional) by getting some half decent wire made up with a purple sheath and putting some ludicrously oversized jacks on the end. But I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Such utter bollocks.
Oh Juan, we've not even started yet ;).
I give you:
http://www.gak.co.uk/en/pete-cornish-silver-signature-hd-guitar-bass-cable-10m/32243 (http://www.gak.co.uk/en/pete-cornish-silver-signature-hd-guitar-bass-cable-10m/32243)
*shakes head*
No, no, no, no, no.
http://www.vandenhul.com/products/cables
Check at the bottom for the USB cables, amongst other things... and cost...
http://www.futureshop.co.uk/van-den-hul-cables-van-den-hul-usb-cables-c-559_581.html#.U7bGH6jeOHk
Then we get to the people that make mains leads...
I'd rather you didn't bring my own cables into this Juan.
I stand by every word about my products.
...... ;D
The G2's pretty highly revered, heard good things about the lighter drives (ss-2?) and delay. In shnobel's yt buffer shootout, I preferred the cornish buffer.
Quote from: madbean on July 04, 2014, 03:08:44 PM
Very easy to wire. Just switch the ins and outs from one PCB to another. It's just toggling two effects with a single switch.
hahah of course...now I feel DERP.
I might vero it up for now then if I like it go forth and etch something.
I always thought the allure of Cornish was the rugged construction more than anything else. I believe that's why Gilmour started using his stuff. Totally custom multi-effect unit tweaked for a specific tour and set of songs that can take a beating. But all the effects were just pulled from existing pedals and cobbled together in a big box. So it's really about the build itself.
No idea why anyone would want a single pedal of his, other than to say you have one.
I bashed out the sabro vero combined with the Tagboard Mark buffer and no dice
too late to troubleshoot now. bloody vero.
A local guy wants me to build an 8-in-1 pedal for him. he asked Pete Cornish how much and the answer was: $12k.
I promise I can keep it under 11. ;D
Quote from: pickdropper on July 04, 2014, 10:39:34 PM
A local guy wants me to build an 8-in-1 pedal for him. he asked Pete Cornish how much and the answer was: $12k.
I promise I can keep it under 11. ;D
Mother of GOD!
.....of course, these are silly prices. I know it is completely irrelevant but I played with Pete once upon a time (he plays alto sax), he is a lovely guy so if Gilmour et all are prepared to pay this kind of dosh who am I to criticise. I'll be etching MB's Darkside very soon instead so who's the richer man, eh!?.......er, him!
BTW i don't understand what is going on with these buffers on this schematic. It seems to be cascading two buffers before it hits the main circuit. Is this right or have I misinterpreted it?
Mark
A luthier once said to another aspiring luthier (which I overheard) that when business is picking up and you start to become in growing demand you can either expand your business to meet said demand or raise prices and lose some demand. The former brings with it that you spend less time doing what you like to do in the first place and more time doing paperwork as you run a business, and with it several employees. The latter has the advantage that you don't need to expand your business as the higher prices will weed out some of your potential customers, allowing you to concentrate more on what you like to do in the first place.
It would seem that Pete chose the latter approach.
Quote from: Muadzin on July 07, 2014, 11:22:30 AM
A luthier once said to another aspiring luthier (which I overheard) that when business is picking up and you start to become in growing demand you can either expand your business to meet said demand or raise prices and lose some demand. The former brings with it that you spend less time doing what you like to do in the first place and more time doing paperwork as you run a business, and with it several employees. The latter has the advantage that you don't need to expand your business as the higher prices will weed out some of your potential customers, allowing you to concentrate more on what you like to do in the first place.
It would seem that Pete chose the latter approach.
Good advice here.. I think the path Pete took is the better of the two!
-Shane
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i have to say that the darkside was the best muff i have used for myself .....but i dont like the tone stack
brian would you try a ss-2 maybe?....i tried to find a schematic to bread board but couldn't and if any thing like the darkside turned out
i think would finally find a overdrive/distortion that i like (tube screamers dont float my boat ..tho i have not tried booteek ones)...im very found of the fet based /catlinbread type stuff
still looking for that peacekeeper...... ;)
Have wanted a g2 for a while now and so I just built a Darkside that keefe etched for me. It is everything I had imagined it to be...better high frequency response than the muff I had, and much more than just a one trick solo pony...really thickens up my strat and can get pretty gnarly with the gain maxed! Buttery smooth when used to solo...
Quote from: culturejam on July 04, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
I always thought the allure of Cornish was the rugged construction more than anything else. I believe that's why Gilmour started using his stuff. Totally custom multi-effect unit tweaked for a specific tour and set of songs that can take a beating. But all the effects were just pulled from existing pedals and cobbled together in a big box. So it's really about the build itself.
No idea why anyone would want a single pedal of his, other than to say you have one.
Yeah they seem to want the brag factor. it's usually just pompus a-holes that do it too (in my experience). I was in a cover band a few years ago and had a HUGE pedal board. A couple of my on builds, a couple of modded line 6 pedals, and some comercial stuff. This guy came up and said my board was sh*t without a Cornish fuzz. Granted, the pedals I had wen't anything special but I personally would NEVER say that to another musician.
I have to say 12K sounds like a lot of money for a pedalboard.
If people are prepared to pay it fair does to him though.
Quote from: raulduke on July 08, 2014, 01:13:45 PM
I have to say 12K sounds like a lot of money for a pedalboard.
If people are prepared to pay it fair does to him though.
Yeah, that's my take on it, too.
I recently built an SS-2 from the layout over at GuitarFX. It sounds pretty much like the video demos I watched. To me it seemed very close to the Distortion+ with Wampler mods I made by following his article in Guitar Player. I actually prefer the Dist+ and if anyone wants the SS-2 I would be happy to send it to them for the price of shipping. Seems kind of a shame to have a working build just sitting around if someone might use it.
Quote from: pickdropper on July 04, 2014, 10:39:34 PM
A local guy wants me to build an 8-in-1 pedal for him. he asked Pete Cornish how much and the answer was: $12k.
I promise I can keep it under 11. ;D
I'm guessing that price keeps the tire kickers away. Had a similar situation where one of my favourite guitarists was selling off some of his gear without posting prices, I contacted him on one piece, he wanted three times the new retail price for a stock production run guitar ($5500 for a stock plain top core Mira). That price too kept the tire kickers away, so much so that he still owns the guitar ::).