I'm set on taking the plunge and "upgrading" my capacitor stash to all Panasonic ECQ-V. I have selected straight leads (no kink) and all the values from 10n-1uF. Got a pretty nice cart loaded on Mouser and about to pull the trigger.
Nothing wrong with my current stash which is a mixture of Tayda, Wima, Epcos, and Kemet. The Panasonics are very nice and sexy and perhaps the best one can use in pedals.
It seems that ECQ-V does not go down below 10n. :(
I'm just wondering for those who build with ECQ-V...What do you use for values of 1n to 10n? Epcos or Wima box? Any tips you can share about the ECQ-V caps would be appreciated! Thanks :)
-Ben
Better get them now, the ECQ-V are being discontinued. It's a bummer because they are my preferred cap.
I like the EPCOS box caps but there are many options. You can also get lower value chicklet style caps from Steve at Small Bear.
Thanks, PD. That's a bummer, I think I will up my order then.
Have you had good luck with Topmay caps? They look legit, just like ECQ....but a little pricey from Smallbear @ $0.20 a pop (ecqs are like $0.08 in smaller values at Mouser per 100).
They work fine, but are a little taller, like the old ECQ-B series. It doesn't usually cause an issue but it is possible it would be a problem for the larger values in something like a 1590a
I've got several values of the ECB-Qs that I ordered in lots of 100.
for the lower values, I usually get the Epcos if I order 100, or the Kemet MMKs if it's less than that.
and you're right in not getting the Panasonics with kinked leads -- they're hard to work with. I ordered 100 by mistake. I've noticed that with most of those caps, you have to pay attention to the package. Some of the box caps come with long leads, some come with short leads.
Quote from: pickdropper on July 14, 2014, 05:29:58 PM
Better get them now, the ECQ-V are being discontinued. It's a bummer because they are my preferred cap.
When did this happen?
It's just about to happen. Final order is about a year from now so we all have time to stock up.
Quote from: pickdropper on July 14, 2014, 08:50:17 PM
It's just about to happen. Final order is about a year from now so we all have time to stock up.
Well that sucks. I was just getting into liking these more than the Epcos and Wima box caps (on a purely aesthetical looks basis). I guess it's time to start exploring SMD for film caps too.
Thanks for the heads up. It's good to know these things early.
SMT film caps get pricey (especially PPS). Hopefully, they'll come down in time.
I plan on having a metric truckload of the Panasonics on hand when they go EOL. Luckily, there aren't that many values.
FWIW, Steve at Small Bear said he was going to stock heavy on them as well.
Quote from: pickdropper on July 14, 2014, 09:58:40 PM
SMT film caps get pricey (especially PPS). Hopefully, they'll come down in time.
I plan on having a metric truckload of the Panasonics on hand when they go EOL. Luckily, there aren't that many values.
FWIW, Steve at Small Bear said he was going to stock heavy on them as well.
I'm thinking a group buy this winter is in order and maybe next summer as well. Anything to bring the prices down; especially on the 1uF's!
Quote from: Stomptown on July 15, 2014, 01:53:02 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on July 14, 2014, 09:58:40 PM
SMT film caps get pricey (especially PPS). Hopefully, they'll come down in time.
I plan on having a metric truckload of the Panasonics on hand when they go EOL. Luckily, there aren't that many values.
FWIW, Steve at Small Bear said he was going to stock heavy on them as well.
I'm thinking a group buy this winter is in order and maybe next summer as well. Anything to bring the prices down; especially on the 1uF's!
You can count me in on a LARGE order if this is gonna happen!!!
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I never really used those, though i like them... ...but since they'll be obsolete... time to hoard like a day with no tomorrow! ;D
Absolutely in for a GB if it happens.
No way. I'm buying them all :P
Thanks for all the good advice as usual! Looking forward to the sexy look of the ecq-v
I'm in on a GB too!!! :)
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Add me to the list for a group buy!
Quote from: pickdropper on July 14, 2014, 09:58:40 PM
SMT film caps get pricey (especially PPS). Hopefully, they'll come down in time.
I plan on having a metric truckload of the Panasonics on hand when they go EOL. Luckily, there aren't that many values.
FWIW, Steve at Small Bear said he was going to stock heavy on them as well.
I am definetly in for a group buy for the 1uF caps.
I believe the price goes down to 0.192$ per piece if we reach 2000 pcs.
OK, just for anyone ordering these, here's a link for the 1uF caps:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ECQ-V1H105JLvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ECQ-V1H105JL
I suggest looking at the datasheet, and paying attention to the suffix: "JL" is 50v, bulk packaging. Anything additional will either be "W" for crimped leads, or a number 2,3,5 or 9, for taped packaging. For me, it's more convenient (and compact) to get the bulk package.
(Yes, I've learned the hard way.) :)
this goes for box caps too ... sometimes if I sort by price, the taped leads will be like a cent less, but by the time you get to 100+, the price evens out, but bulk caps are more convenient and take less space.
Quote from: Blues Healer on July 15, 2014, 04:06:53 PM
OK, just for anyone ordering these, here's a link for the 1uF caps:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ECQ-V1H105JLvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ECQ-V1H105JL
I suggest looking at the datasheet, and paying attention to the suffix: "JL" is 50v, bulk packaging. Anything additional will either be "W" for crimped leads, or a number 2,3,5 or 9, for taped packaging. For me, it's more convenient (and compact) to get the bulk package.
(Yes, I've learned the hard way.) :)
this goes for box caps too ... sometimes if I sort by price, the taped leads will be like a cent less, but by the time you get to 100+, the price evens out, but bulk caps are more convenient and take less space.
That is VERY good advice. It's really good to get in the habit of reading datasheets.
Quote from: Blues Healer on July 15, 2014, 04:06:53 PM
OK, just for anyone ordering these, here's a link for the 1uF caps:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ECQ-V1H105JLvirtualkey66720000virtualkey667-ECQ-V1H105JL
I suggest looking at the datasheet, and paying attention to the suffix: "JL" is 50v, bulk packaging. Anything additional will either be "W" for crimped leads, or a number 2,3,5 or 9, for taped packaging. For me, it's more convenient (and compact) to get the bulk package.
(Yes, I've learned the hard way.) :)
this goes for box caps too ... sometimes if I sort by price, the taped leads will be like a cent less, but by the time you get to 100+, the price evens out, but bulk caps are more convenient and take less space.
Exactly! It's "JL" or nothing.
Quote from: pickdropper on July 14, 2014, 09:58:40 PM
I plan on having a metric truckload of the Panasonics on hand when they go EOL. Luckily, there aren't that many values.
Likewise. Maybe it's a clever marketing ploy... /cynical
Should we do a panasonic group buy?
I can also vouch for reading the data sheets and getting bulk packaging.
Snipping 100's of capacitors of a tape real is not the most fun way to spend 1/2 an hour ;D
Incase you are stuck with a tape reel of parts, this is how I separate them.
http://music.codydeschenes.com/?p=1552 (http://music.codydeschenes.com/?p=1552)
Cody
Quote from: selfdestroyer on July 16, 2014, 03:33:18 PM
Incase you are stuck with a tape reel of parts, this is how I separate them.
http://music.codydeschenes.com/?p=1552 (http://music.codydeschenes.com/?p=1552)
Cody
I do the same. Tin snips can also be used to cut PCBs.
Did it!
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All values from Mouser from 10n, ecq-B 1n from ebay and the 1n to 10n assortments from Steve at Smallbear.
Daaamn, Rully.
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Very nice! What did that end up costing and what quantities did you buy? I'm thinking of doing the same myself. Thanks!
well played, sir!
Quote from: rullywowr on July 22, 2014, 12:44:55 AM
Did it!
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All values from Mouser from 10n, ecq-B 1n from ebay and the 1n to 10n assortments from Steve at Smallbear.
Wow!! Do you have a Mouser BOM for that?
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"We'll have the lot, eh Cheeky?"
Thanks guys. :)
I think I have the cart saved if interested. I got at least 100pcs of all ecq-v values from 10n to 1uF. Popular values I got 200-300 of each. All straight leads. It was under $400 but I ordered some other stuff like TI ICs and charge pumps etc.
As it was time consuming to find the right ones and enter all these ECQ-V in the mouser cart, here is the link to a Mouser cart with 100 pcs of each value of ECQ-V from 10n up to 1uF. This totals $255.90. The price break hits in around 100pcs and up. These are all straight leads and at least 50V rating.
I would recommend grabbing extra of common values like 100n, 47n, 220n, etc.
http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=4818477595
As of right now, eBay has the 1n ECQ-B caps for about 5 bucks for 100 and you can get the "Top May" ones from Smallbear from 1n up to 10n. ;D
Thank you! :)
Has anyone heard of or bought from Future Electronics? They are selling Panasonic 50V 1uF straight lead ECQV's for $0.16 each (min quantity of 75)! I'm not sure about shipping costs, but this could potentially be a great deal! Just wondering if it is too good to be true.
http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/technologies/passives/capacitors/film-capacitors/Pages/6029074-ECQ-V1H105JL.aspx?IM=0
Is that different from futurelec?
Mouser's still less for 1uF:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic/ECQ-V1H104JL/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv1cc3ydrPrF%252bfZ13WJ%2fr1%2fEY9wPof57Ts%3d
Future Electronics is different from Futurlec. Future Electronics is at the same level as Mouser and Digi-Key. I've made one order from them a year or so ago and everything was good from them and the service was fine. I usually forget to look there though when I'm looking for parts.
Quote from: Blues Healer on August 16, 2014, 04:04:53 AM
Mouser's still less for 1uF:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Panasonic/ECQ-V1H104JL/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv1cc3ydrPrF%252bfZ13WJ%2fr1%2fEY9wPof57Ts%3d
NB that link is for 100n, not 1 uF.
Quote from: lincolnic on August 16, 2014, 04:13:02 AM
NB that link is for 100n, not 1 uF.
my bad!
Mouser's about $.25 / 100 :
http://www.mouser.com/Panasonic/Passive-Components/Capacitors/Film-Capacitors/_/N-9x371?P=1z0wrj5Z1ywtgm1Z1z0z7l5Z1yznbzrZ1z0vn48Z1z0vn3cZ1yzvjj0Z1yzn53n&Ns=Pricing%7c0
Hey, for those interested, I just aquired a MASSIVE STOCKPILE of both ECQ-V and ECQ-B caps. Probably in the 170,000 piece range. If you are looking for them, check out my site, pedalhackerelectronics.com. There are tons of other great pedal parts available such as rare germanium diodes and transistors, Allen Bradley carbon comp resistors, MIL SPEC precistion metal film resistors and other high end audio components.
Thanks!