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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: jfk1063 on October 01, 2014, 08:26:36 AM

Title: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: jfk1063 on October 01, 2014, 08:26:36 AM
Hi,
Just saw these:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/wessex-pedals
They use a transformer for clipping? Is this a revolution ;-) ?
Cheers, John
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: raulduke on October 01, 2014, 08:46:26 AM
Transformer saturation is supposed to be one of the 'mojo' tone enhancers (including saturation of output transformers on guitar amps).

There are all sorts of emulations available, and also theories on why it makes things sound 'better'.

Would be interesting to see how they are using it in the circuit.

Interesting info + circuit here:

http://store.diyrecordingequipment.com/tm79-colour-kit/ (http://store.diyrecordingequipment.com/tm79-colour-kit/)
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: lincolnic on October 01, 2014, 08:52:29 PM
Quote from: raulduke on October 01, 2014, 08:46:26 AM
Transformer saturation is supposed to be one of the 'mojo' tone enhancers (including saturation of output transformers on guitar amps).

There are all sorts of emulations available, and also theories on why it makes things sound 'better'.

Would be interesting to see how they are using it in the circuit.

Interesting info + circuit here:

http://store.diyrecordingequipment.com/tm79-colour-kit/ (http://store.diyrecordingequipment.com/tm79-colour-kit/)

My old friend Jens is the mad scientist behind Eisen Audio. I can confirm that his products and designs are of the highest quality, because he isn't happy until they are. (NB: not affiliated! I just like seeing my talented friends get mentioned in other places.)
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: J0K3RX on October 02, 2014, 12:14:26 AM
If you look at other Rupert Neve designs it may shed some light on it, his little transformers are in all of them...
http://rupertneve.com/archive/bogner-releases-guitar-pedals-with-rnd-transformers/


Reinhold Bogner is a real nutty ass! :o  I think that's where the tone comes from..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZS_hFWgK3g&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: jubal81 on October 02, 2014, 04:31:10 AM
Love the styling on those pedals for sure. Wow.


EDIT: Just listened to the Wessex demo. Holy crap, that sounds awesome - and I'm really hard to impress these days.
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: GrindCustoms on October 02, 2014, 05:03:42 AM
Quote from: jubal81 on October 02, 2014, 04:31:10 AM
Love the styling on those pedals for sure. Wow.


EDIT: Just listened to the Wessex demo. Holy crap, that sounds awesome - and I'm really hard to impress these days.

And you really had to PM me that demo to be sure that i get GASing... thanks bro! lulz
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: jfk1063 on October 02, 2014, 07:29:45 AM
Now I have to get and try me one  :-\
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: raulduke on October 02, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
They are neat looking pedals, and it's a cool idea n'all.

However, my only slight gripe is that mixing desks and mic pre's (and the tone associated with them) come into play long after the signal chain than where pedals are placed in most 'classic' recordings.

Usually: Guitar -> Amp -> Microphone -> Mic Pre (possibly desk pre) -> Multi-track Tape Machine -> Mixing Desk (for mix down) -> Two Track Master Tape (mix down).

Realistically it is not going to give you that 60's/70's studio sound, but there is nothing like a bit of hyperbole to whip the guitar market into a frenzy, and there is nothing wrong with that ;D
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: jubal81 on October 02, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
Quote from: raulduke on October 02, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
Realistically it is not going to give you that 60's/70's studio sound, but there is nothing like a bit of hyperbole to whip the guitar market into a frenzy, and there is nothing wrong with that ;D


Yeah, all that Studio/Neve stuff is some terrible marketing horsecrap and quite a turnoff.
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: lars on October 02, 2014, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: raulduke on October 02, 2014, 08:46:45 AM

However, my only slight gripe is that mixing desks and mic pre's (and the tone associated with them) come into play long after the signal chain than where pedals are placed in most 'classic' recordings.

A very astute observation.
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: upthepunxxx on October 02, 2014, 06:29:57 PM
Yea I heard Dan Boul from 65 amps talking about these pedals on "Lunch with Dan". I think he said bogner pedals is in the same building as 65.
Title: Re: Bogner Pedals uses transformer
Post by: jubal81 on October 02, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
I think I've watched that demo 3-4 times now. It's taking some real willpower not to punch that 'buy' button.