madbeanpedals::forum

Projects => General Questions => Requests => Topic started by: jtn191 on May 07, 2011, 12:44:29 PM

Title: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: jtn191 on May 07, 2011, 12:44:29 PM
Sure, there's already a bunch of good fuzzes here but how about tha Big Cheese?

Schem: http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/diagrams/geo_great_cheddar_v6.pdf?phpMyAdmin=78482479fd7e7fc3768044a841b3e85a
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: jtn191 on May 07, 2011, 07:11:10 PM
actually, nm I'll just learn how to etch the board that's on that pdf
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: dre on March 12, 2015, 09:49:34 AM
From the GGG link: 404 no results found.

I was planning on building one Big Cheese for me, does anybody have the files, please?
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 12, 2015, 09:59:16 AM
im interested in this fuzz recently too.

heres what i found on osh park:
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/vh6bA8u6

alanp has the cheese source, kombination of brown source and big cheese
https://oshpark.com/profiles/alanp/page/2
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 12, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
dre, where are you from? I could do a 3 pcb run of the feta complis project linked by luks999. One for each of us. Only makes sense though, if you're in Europe. Lukas, would be up for that?
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 12, 2015, 12:52:53 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on March 12, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
dre, where are you from? I could do a 3 pcb run of the feta complis project linked by luks999. One for each of us. Only makes sense though, if you're in Europe. Lukas, would be up for that?

felix, that sounds fantastic :)

is it not possible to order fabbed pcbs from osh? or do you mean shipping takes too long, too expensive?

yes im interested both in the big cheese and cheese source ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 12, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 12, 2015, 12:52:53 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on March 12, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
dre, where are you from? I could do a 3 pcb run of the feta complis project linked by luks999. One for each of us. Only makes sense though, if you're in Europe. Lukas, would be up for that?

felix, that sounds fantastic :)

is it not possible to order fabbed pcbs from osh? or do you mean shipping takes too long, too expensive?

yes im interested both in the big cheese and cheese source ;)
Osh park deliveres good quality fabbed boards, but shipping it back to the US would make no sense as it is delivered from the US...
I was thinking about the Big Cheese, so the Fuzz part only, I'm not so much interested in the overdrive section. It's 18.20$ for 3 pcbs by the way.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 12, 2015, 01:50:00 PM
ok i see now what u mean, thought you fab the pcbs ;)

count me in for one ;)
also im thinkin about a doppelganger :)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: jimilee on March 12, 2015, 01:56:21 PM
I'd be in for one if that'd help you out.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on March 12, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
And same here, I could take one.  :)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: billyblunt on March 14, 2015, 10:53:25 AM
yes please, count me in for one.  I'm Uk based.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Muadzin on March 14, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
If we're going to do a group buy thing I would be in for 2 boards.  8) And I'm from Europe as well.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 15, 2015, 10:05:22 AM
I just ordered 9 of these puppies!
As of now 7 of them are claimed:
* 1 for Luks999
* 1 for Jebus
* 2 for Muadzin
* 1 for billyblunt
* 2 for myself and a friend

dre has not responded yet, but there will at least be one more for grabs. Anyways, they way I like to handle this is like follows:
once I got the boards from OSH park (rougly 3-4 weeks), I'll send out PMs. Once I've got your address/country I can hopefully look up shipping costs and give you an exact price. One board is 6$. Once I received payment via paypal, I'll send them your way. Europe only! Just doesn't make sense to send the boards back and forth over the atlantic and will also be cheaper for our US friends to order/distribute themselves.
Hope that's cool with everyone.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 15, 2015, 10:28:20 AM
nice  :) thx a lot felix
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: billyblunt on March 15, 2015, 05:04:25 PM
very cool thx  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on March 15, 2015, 09:50:58 PM
Thanks a lot, sounds good!  :)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Muadzin on March 16, 2015, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on March 15, 2015, 10:05:22 AM
I just ordered 9 of these puppies!
As of now 7 of them are claimed:
* 1 for Luks999
* 1 for Jebus
* 2 for Muadzin
* 1 for billyblunt
* 2 for myself and a friend

dre has not responded yet, but there will at least be one more for grabs. Anyways, they way I like to handle this is like follows:
once I got the boards from OSH park (rougly 3-4 weeks), I'll send out PMs. Once I've got your address/country I can hopefully look up shipping costs and give you an exact price. One board is 6$. Once I received payment via paypal, I'll send them your way. Europe only! Just doesn't make sense to send the boards back and forth over the atlantic and will also be cheaper for our US friends to order/distribute themselves.
Hope that's cool with everyone.

You, good sir, are a God amongst mortal men!
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: LaceSensor on March 18, 2015, 04:12:22 PM
make sure you source and use some genuine BC549c to get it sounding just right...
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 18, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
thanks for the tip Ian.

update: the boards have been sent to the fab on Monday. Still at least one more board available. Get them while they're warm!
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on March 18, 2015, 07:58:00 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on March 18, 2015, 04:12:22 PM
make sure you source and use some genuine BC549c to get it sounding just right...

There's lots of these available on eBay, any idea if they are the real deal?
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 18, 2015, 08:18:44 PM
musikding.de caries them for 6 cents/piece as well. Up to now, everything I bought from them checked out
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on March 18, 2015, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on March 18, 2015, 08:18:44 PM
musikding.de caries them for 6 cents/piece as well. Up to now, everything I bought from them checked out

Oh, forgot to check Musikding. Thanks for the info! That's probably my favorite place to order stuff in larger quantities.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: LaceSensor on March 19, 2015, 12:24:20 AM
Fairchild is what u need
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 24, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
UPDATE: Order has been returned from the fab and is now on the way to me! should take 10-14 days.

dre has not responded yet to my pm, so it looks like there are actually still 2 boards left!
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 24, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
awesome felix :-) is there a build doc on osh park?
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 24, 2015, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 24, 2015, 06:48:29 PM
awesome felix :-) is there a build doc on osh park?

Yes, here you go:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7c1uzdnftog53qc/Feta%20Complis%20Build%20Guide.pdf
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 24, 2015, 07:27:15 PM
thanks. have to admit was to lazy to look it up myself

a fuzz face with buffers and tone controls. looks like the circuit i was looking for along time :-)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: alanp on March 25, 2015, 03:39:49 AM
The rotary switch is what makes this circuit really useful.

Plus 'cheese' mode.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on March 25, 2015, 10:21:39 AM
Any idea do I need pots with extra long legs for this? Or does the "normal" (~12mm legs) ones do the trick?
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 25, 2015, 10:52:14 AM
I think the normal ones will do the trick but I would definitely put pots into the enclosure first, drop the pcb with the soldered switch in and then solder the pots legs. I think it will be close, but it should work.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: LaceSensor on March 25, 2015, 11:15:22 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on March 25, 2015, 10:52:14 AM
I think the normal ones will do the trick but I would definitely put pots into the enclosure first, drop the pcb with the soldered switch in and then solder the pots legs. I think it will be close, but it should work.

this

its close but it does work

Ian
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
hey ian
you mentioning using the BC549C, but the BOM says 2n3904. is there really a huge difference?
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 25, 2015, 01:33:50 PM
I can't state for the the difference in sound, but they are both easily obtainable and cheap :)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: alanp on March 25, 2015, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
hey ian
you mentioning using the BC549C, but the BOM says 2n3904. is there really a huge difference?

There is in the pinout -- check the datasheet for each.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: alanp on March 25, 2015, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
hey ian
you mentioning using the BC549C, but the BOM says 2n3904. is there really a huge difference?

There is in the pinout -- check the datasheet for each.

ah of course i knew it. and soundwise? dont believe theres so much difference
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on March 25, 2015, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Quote from: alanp on March 25, 2015, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
hey ian
you mentioning using the BC549C, but the BOM says 2n3904. is there really a huge difference?

There is in the pinout -- check the datasheet for each.

ah of course i knew it. and soundwise? dont believe theres so much difference

socket and see, or better hear
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 07:22:31 PM
will do :-)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: LaceSensor on March 26, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
hey ian
you mentioning using the BC549C, but the BOM says 2n3904. is there really a huge difference?

not massive but to me noticeable

i would claim to be madbean forums biggest lovetone fan and owner of their whole portfolio

bc549c is the transistor of choice, indeed across many lovetone designs

whomever chose 2n3904's was incorrect
save a few cents and build an inaccurate and, to me, sonically inferior clone if you wish

I wouldnt bother to waste my time to post my advice if it wasnt well researched, tbh.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on March 27, 2015, 01:59:04 AM
^^^ LISTEN TO THIS GUY!^^^
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on March 27, 2015, 06:52:28 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on March 26, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: luks999 on March 25, 2015, 01:21:41 PM
hey ian
you mentioning using the BC549C, but the BOM says 2n3904. is there really a huge difference?

not massive but to me noticeable

i would claim to be madbean forums biggest lovetone fan and owner of their whole portfolio

bc549c is the transistor of choice, indeed across many lovetone designs

whomever chose 2n3904's was incorrect
save a few cents and build an inaccurate and, to me, sonically inferior clone if you wish

I wouldnt bother to waste my time to post my advice if it wasnt well researched, tbh.

ok i will socket and try out some trannies. i think ive some bc549c lyin round
thanks for your advice, youre not wasting your time
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on April 03, 2015, 11:37:40 AM
Easter bunny has been busy, I was flooded with packages today. One of them contained our boards!
I'll go ahead and PM everyone
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on April 07, 2015, 08:35:08 AM
All $ received, all pcbs sent out today.

Full disclosure: The randomness of the Austrian postal services knows no boundaries. I sent a pcb to Sweden on Thursday, which cost 3.6€. This was the price for an envelope 50-100 g.
I assumed the same price for the two boards and 50g for one, which according to the website costs 1.5 €.
Today, I was charged with 1.60 € for all envelopes to UK and NED. I ran out of envelopes so I sent out Jebus' order a few hours later at another post office, which charged me 0.80 € to FIN.
So overall, muadzin, pigeonFX and Jebus were charged a little too much. I'm sorry for that. The amount were talking about is not worth sending back due to paypal charges, otherwise I would. I hope this is cool with you guys. If not, I'll reimburse you.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: alanp on April 07, 2015, 08:46:22 AM
 ???

I'm not sure if this is better or worse than my local postshop. They always make me buy a $12 courier bag to where ever, rather than a $2.50 letter! (This is why I drop things off in the postbox, these days...)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on April 07, 2015, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on April 07, 2015, 08:35:08 AM
All $ received, all pcbs sent out today.

Full disclosure: The randomness of the Austrian postal services knows no boundaries. I sent a pcb to Sweden on Thursday, which cost 3.6€. This was the price for an envelope 50-100 g.
I assumed the same price for the two boards and 50g for one, which according to the website costs 1.5 €.
Today, I was charged with 1.60 € for all envelopes to UK and NED. I ran out of envelopes so I sent out Jebus' order a few hours later at another post office, which charged me 0.80 € to FIN.
So overall, muadzin, pigeonFX and Jebus were charged a little too much. I'm sorry for that. The amount were talking about is not worth sending back due to paypal charges, otherwise I would. I hope this is cool with you guys. If not, I'll reimburse you.

Thanks a ton felix :)
yeah austrian postal offices, they have strange price ranges and rules :S
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on April 07, 2015, 10:07:01 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on April 07, 2015, 08:35:08 AM
I ran out of envelopes so I sent out Jebus' order a few hours later at another post office, which charged me 0.80 € to FIN.

Well that's crazy cheap. If I would send you anything in envelope it would probably cost 2-3 euros.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on April 08, 2015, 06:13:31 AM
that's what I thought too. I told her it was going to FIN and I think she overheard it at first and told me the rate for it within Austria. When she looked at the address, she realized where it was actually going, but the rate stayed the same...  ???

btw.: please let me know when they arrive
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: luks999 on April 08, 2015, 05:09:44 PM
pcb arrived today  8) thx a lot felix
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: billyblunt on April 08, 2015, 09:25:53 PM
Will do, thanks very much for sorting all this out.
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: Jebus on April 09, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on April 08, 2015, 06:13:31 AM
btw.: please let me know when they arrive

It arrived today, thanks a lot!  :)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: m-Kresol on April 09, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Jebus on April 09, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
It arrived today, thanks a lot!  :)

Wow. Say what you will about the price randomness, but 2 days from Austria to Finland?! That is fast! and all that for 80 cents  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone-Big Cheese
Post by: billyblunt on April 10, 2015, 10:44:30 AM
Just to let you know the board has just arrived. Thanks again for sorting all this out, it's much appreciated.