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Title: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 04, 2014, 12:27:43 AM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19219628/2014-10-04%2013.17.56.jpg)

Yeah, I love the HM2.
this build was pretty fun - I challenged myself to layout the board with SIL opamps, and I wanted it to fit in a 125b, as my previous layout was none too pedal board friendly (1590BB, landscape). I'm pretty pleased how it turned out. so much so, that i'm thinking I'll even attempt to paint the enclosure. of course keeping the Black and Orange colour scheme of the original  8)  8)  8)

I've got 2 boards spare, as well as some SIL jrc4558's if anyone wants? PM me...

if there's any interest I could do a group buy too...
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: selfdestroyer on October 04, 2014, 02:05:12 AM
Im all over that.. can I get one? Ill PM you.

Cody
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: alanp on October 04, 2014, 02:23:54 AM
Well, I'm impressed :) Slightly odd layout, but I may be speaking from the experience of multiple Bean muff boards here.

I know what you mean by not being happy with the original layout -- that's why I have new Minimoog VCF boards on the way (it's not like I need another one -- I already have two of the things...)
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 04, 2014, 02:28:54 AM
Quote from: alanp on October 04, 2014, 02:23:54 AM
Well, I'm impressed :) Slightly odd layout, but I may be speaking from the experience of multiple Bean muff boards here.

I know what you mean by not being happy with the original layout -- that's why I have new Minimoog VCF boards on the way (it's not like I need another one -- I already have two of the things...)

It is slightly odd, but it works well with top-mounted jacks.

I'm not sure if the SIP opamps made it easier or more difficult to layout.
maybe both :D
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: GrindCustoms on October 04, 2014, 02:50:06 AM
Killer stuff Jer!

I was in for 1 on facebook, still in over here :D
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 04, 2014, 02:53:53 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on October 04, 2014, 02:50:06 AM
Killer stuff Jer!

I was in for 1 on facebook, still in over here :D

Pm coming atcha ;)
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: GrindCustoms on October 04, 2014, 03:05:51 AM
Quote from: the3secondrule on October 04, 2014, 02:53:53 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on October 04, 2014, 02:50:06 AM
Killer stuff Jer!

I was in for 1 on facebook, still in over here :D

Pm coming atcha ;)

8)

Can't get enough chainsaw massacre goodness!
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: chuckbuick on October 04, 2014, 02:49:53 PM
Nice layout.  I never think to mount pots horizontally.  That could make life way easier in some situations.
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: juansolo on October 05, 2014, 07:37:49 AM
I'm strangely taken with this circuit, so would be up for a one when/if you do a run.
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 05, 2014, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from: juansolo on October 05, 2014, 07:37:49 AM
I'm strangely taken with this circuit, so would be up for a one when/if you do a run.

It'll happen. Still not 100% satisfied with the layout, first order if business is to replace the 2sk30a with 2n5457/j201 etc.
maybe 9mm pots too. (Hey maybe this'll fit in a 1590b...)
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: GrindCustoms on October 05, 2014, 08:19:11 AM
Quote from: the3secondrule on October 05, 2014, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from: juansolo on October 05, 2014, 07:37:49 AM
I'm strangely taken with this circuit, so would be up for a one when/if you do a run.

It'll happen. Still not 100% satisfied with the layout, first order if business is to replace the 2sk30a with 2n5457/j201 etc.
maybe 9mm pots too. (Hey maybe this'll fit in a 1590b...)

Board width still fits in a 1590B? It's just the board getting to low in the enclosure that bums you?
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: juansolo on October 05, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
1590B is where I live. Board size looks fine, just gotta get the pots underneath the board rather than sticking out the top, then it'll fit fine. No need to go 9mm.
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: GrindCustoms on October 05, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: juansolo on October 05, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
1590B is where I live. Board size looks fine, just gotta get the pots underneath the board rather than sticking out the top, then it'll fit fine. No need to go 9mm.

That's also what i thought.
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: Bret608 on October 06, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
Always liked this circuit...Adam Franklin from Swervedriver was using them back when I saw them a few times in the mid-to-late '90s. The band Love Battery which may be less well known also had a guitarist using one. A lot of people were using these back before Russian Muffs got easier to find. Yes, I know, not the same thing, but I think the HM-2 filled that niche at the time. Cuts like a knife in a loud band mix, as well.

I'll keep an eye out for if you do another run. Really nice work on the layout!  :)
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: Kunfuz on October 07, 2014, 07:08:31 AM
Yeah, please do a groupbuy!
I can't find anymore Behringer HM300 pedals to rehouse ;D
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 07, 2014, 08:52:48 AM
Quote from: Bret608 on October 06, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
Always liked this circuit...Adam Franklin from Swervedriver was using them back when I saw them a few times in the mid-to-late '90s. The band Love Battery which may be less well known also had a guitarist using one. A lot of people were using these back before Russian Muffs got easier to find. Yes, I know, not the same thing, but I think the HM-2 filled that niche at the time. Cuts like a knife in a loud band mix, as well.

I'll keep an eye out for if you do another run. Really nice work on the layout!  :)

Apparently Kevin Shields (MBV) and David Pajo (slint) are other notable users.
Definitely gets that 90's shoegazey wall of sound thing happening anyway.
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 07, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: juansolo on October 05, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
1590B is where I live. Board size looks fine, just gotta get the pots underneath the board rather than sticking out the top, then it'll fit fine. No need to go 9mm.

Yeah, i started working on a new layout for 1590b last night, but it's gonna be slow going. trying to decide whether I add in a few mods (mids pot being the main one). 5 pots in a 1590b may necessitate 9mm pots though. we'll see.

Might order a small run of these in the meantime...
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: juansolo on October 07, 2014, 09:06:46 AM
Can get 3 16mm across on a 1590B. (See Camden 1590B template (http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/pstemplates/JPT.jpg))

Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 07, 2014, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: juansolo on October 07, 2014, 09:06:46 AM
Can get 3 16mm across on a 1590B. (See Camden 1590B template (http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/pstemplates/JPT.jpg))

Duly Noted  ;)
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: juansolo on October 07, 2014, 09:47:27 AM
Skreddy and Catlinbread do it too.

All I'm thinking is that 9mm pots can be a sod to get hold of outside the US. It limits appeal if you're planning on doing a run of boards that's all ;)

Yeah, I'm just thinking about me, me, me :P
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: Bret608 on October 07, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
1590b would be cool, but a 125b is a similar size to a classic Boss stompbox, right? I think I'd be happy either way honestly.

Off on a tangent now, but the Boss PN-2 was another staple of '90s shoegaze/MBV-dom. Was that just because it was the main trem available in pedal form at the time, or is there something special there? Worth a look?
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 07, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Quote from: Bret608 on October 07, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
1590b would be cool, but a 125b is a similar size to a classic Boss stompbox, right? I think I'd be happy either way honestly.

Off on a tangent now, but the Boss PN-2 was another staple of '90s shoegaze/MBV-dom. Was that just because it was the main trem available in pedal form at the time, or is there something special there? Worth a look?

The main reason. Went for the 125b over 1590b was so I could put the jacks at the top of the enclosure.
I wasn't even sure I'd get it in the 125b, but now that's confirmed, I'm definitely keen to have a crack at the smaller enclosure...

I've never tried a PN2 to be honest. It's definitely one that I want to try out.
Might be one to try and do a layout for... I suspect it's fairly complicated though...
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: Hexjibber on October 08, 2014, 08:24:14 AM
Put me down for a board or two!
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 10, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
I've shrunk the layout a little more. it will fit in a 1590b, as long as you don't mind wiring the pots off board... (caveat: I haven't checked out how it'll fit with switches and jacks etc. board dimensions are 52x57mm, if anyone wants to check it).
It will still be able to have the board-mounted pots in a 125b.

I'm going to sanity-check it in the morning, then order 10 boards. maybe more?
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: Hexjibber on October 10, 2014, 12:35:45 PM
Quote from: the3secondrule on October 10, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
I've shrunk the layout a little more. it will fit in a 1590b, as long as you don't mind wiring the pots off board... (caveat: I haven't checked out how it'll fit with switches and jacks etc. dimensions are 52x57mm).
It will still be able to have the board-mounted pots in a 125b.

I'm going to sanity-check it in the morning, then order 10 boards. maybe more?

Sounds good man! Still up for a couple of boards for sure
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: circusbrains on October 10, 2014, 01:04:46 PM
Please count me in  :)
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 10, 2014, 08:08:48 PM
group buy opened up here for those who expressed an interest:
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17804.0 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17804.0)

8)

J
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: Muadzin on October 13, 2014, 02:05:52 PM
Is there a build doc for this Swedish baby?
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 13, 2014, 07:08:26 PM
Quote from: Muadzin on October 13, 2014, 02:05:52 PM
Is there a build doc for this Swedish baby?

Not yet, but it's on my list :)

Tonight, hopefully
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: selfdestroyer on October 15, 2014, 03:26:17 AM
Got my board today. Thanks again.

Cody
Title: Re: Build report: HM2 v2
Post by: the3secondrule on October 15, 2014, 09:54:30 PM
That was fast!

If anyone wants, I've still got one board available under the group buy...