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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: LaceSensor on October 30, 2014, 02:20:14 PM

Title: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: LaceSensor on October 30, 2014, 02:20:14 PM
Hi

For a long time I have used Barrys Best Hookup wire from Guitar PCB.
It seems he no longer stock it
Sure it was pricey, but I really like it.

Anyone found similar good quality stranded core cable that is pre-bonded (flexible, but doesnt need tinning basically) in the UK?

Juansolo? Obi wan kenobi? Yoda?

Thanks

Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: chordball on October 30, 2014, 02:32:29 PM
I'm pretty sure he will have some more soon. If you're on his email list, you should have gotten an email about a pre - order discount and following that, he will have more in his store at normal pricing. That's the way I took it anyway.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: LaceSensor on October 30, 2014, 02:38:52 PM
hmm I think I opted out of his emails a while back as I didnt use his service as often as Id like and felt he did spam quite a lot, and I hate the formatting he uses to write in (!)

I will drop him a line and see when he expects it back in stock

any other sources, im all ears

Ian
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: raulduke on October 30, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
I use this stuff (as recommended by Basic Audio somewhere on BYOC):

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2290757 (http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2290757)

It's not prebonded as such, but it is 7 strands with PTFE insulation.

The insulation means no insulator melting/shrinking when soldering.

It also stays where you put it, and is really easy to work with.

Not the cheapest, but I would HIGHLY recommend it.

It's honestly the best wire I have used for building pedals (including the pre-bonded stuff)
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: LaceSensor on October 30, 2014, 02:52:05 PM
Quote from: raulduke on October 30, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
I use this stuff (as recommended by Basic Audio somewhere on BYOC):

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2290757 (http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2290757)

It's not prebonded as such, but it is 7 strands with PTFE insulation.

The insulation means no insulator melting/shrinking when soldering.

It also stays where you put it, and is really easy to work with.

Not the cheapest, but I would HIGHLY recommend it.

It's honestly the best wire I have used for building pedals (including the pre-bonded stuff)

Hi mate

Would this be the same stuff, and significantly good deal if so?

http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/hookup-wire-kit-ul1007-1569-22awg-01-1407


ok so not the exact same, but seems good quality wire
I dont mind the teflon vs PVC coat.

Thanks!
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: raulduke on October 30, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
No that's PVC (which is a buggar for shrinking/melting).

It also doesn't state how many strands or if it is pre-tinned (it could be plain coppper).

The one I use is 7 strand 22 AWG PTFE wire (as seen on Farnell).

I'll have a quick gander on rapid to see if I can find it (always cheaper than Farnell too).
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: raulduke on October 30, 2014, 03:21:49 PM
This looks interesting:

http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/30m-black-wire-22awg-01-1324 (http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/30m-black-wire-22awg-01-1324)

It's quoted as 'semi rigid'.

How they get it to be like that I do not know. It's possible it could be bonded so might be worth a punt.


This is the closest I could find to what I use on Rapid

http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/alpha-wire-5853-black-26awg-7-34-type-e-hu-wire-teflon-100-ft-01-5369 (http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/alpha-wire-5853-black-26awg-7-34-type-e-hu-wire-teflon-100-ft-01-5369)

It's 26 AWG though.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: pickdropper on October 30, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
I use 26 awg for most pedal stuff.  I generally prefer it to the thicker 22 awg.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: raulduke on October 30, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
Also just found this:

http://www.weicowire.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=184_50_87 (http://www.weicowire.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=184_50_87)

Looks interesting.

US based (therefore not sure on shipping), but they can do 1000ft 22AWG pre-bonded in a range of colours for $61.23 (26 AWG at $48.42).

That seems quite a good deal to me.

Wire is something we all use, a lot, in every build. Therefore buying in bulk is the sensible option.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: playpunk on October 30, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
That wire might be a nice small group buy... or maybe I could continue to do mono colored wiring
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: stevie1556 on October 30, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
It's it's any help, I use this stuff m.rapidonline.com/ProductSearch/ModuleDetails?ModuleCode=62320 (http://m.rapidonline.com/ProductSearch/ModuleDetails?ModuleCode=62320)

It's as cheap as chips, and works perfectly for pedal building I find.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: LaceSensor on October 30, 2014, 07:35:18 PM
Quote from: raulduke on October 30, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
No that's PVC (which is a buggar for shrinking/melting).

It also doesn't state how many strands or if it is pre-tinned (it could be plain coppper).

The one I use is 7 strand 22 AWG PTFE wire (as seen on Farnell).

I'll have a quick gander on rapid to see if I can find it (always cheaper than Farnell too).

If you look up the 1007 part number that is supplied in the kit I linked to, you can find the individual reels.

http://www.rapidonline.com/cables-connectors/alpha-wire-ul1007-22awg-hook-up-wire-blue-305m-reel-01-1287

7 strand tinned copper conductor.
Ill let you know how it is.
FWIW even barrys best hookup wire shrinks a bit, I personally dont let it fuss me.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: chordball on October 30, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on October 30, 2014, 02:38:52 PM
hmm I think I opted out of his emails a while back as I didnt use his service as often as Id like and felt he did spam quite a lot, and I hate the formatting he uses to write in (!)

I will drop him a line and see when he expects it back in stock

any other sources, im all ears

Ian

I hear you on that! I do get a little annoyed at all the messages.
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: juansolo on October 31, 2014, 03:49:28 AM
Still using our stock of solid and ribbon. Never found a good pre-bond available here.

One day I'll have to order a km of that awesome Hitachi pre-bond ribbon. But a km seemed to be the minimum order qty...
Title: Re: pre-bonded hook up wire in the UK?
Post by: LaceSensor on October 31, 2014, 12:26:59 PM
ok I bought the alpha wire dispenser with 5 coloured reels
the wire is tinned 7 copper conductor, but its not pre-bonded

the jacket doesnt shrink hardly any with my iron @380celcius
good enough!

When I work through this ill reorder a reel of the more expensive stuff.