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Title: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: stevie1556 on November 18, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
So, my latest SMD board works! Can't wait to get this one boxed up! Just tried it on my testing rig/box, and it's absolutely beautiful!

It's essentially a Lotus Pedals Snowjob, which is a underdrive (marketing hype I think), and has a switch to go from normal mode, to what I can tell is diode clipping to get a more harmonic effect.

Here is a YouTube video I've found of it http://youtu.be/VxQ73v9-BXg (http://youtu.be/VxQ73v9-BXg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/18/743ca76b6d57c41ac4890936447fa2ab.jpg)
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: cooder on November 18, 2014, 06:12:16 PM
Hmmmm .... yummy yellow snow with little particles on it... must lick on it.... ;)
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: muddyfox on November 18, 2014, 06:12:51 PM
Nice one, Stevie! The color certainly fits!  ;D

Looking forward to building my own...
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 02:10:37 AM
Nice!

Is C1 a capacitor "teepee" ?? If so, that's pretty diesel.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: cooder on November 19, 2014, 02:56:44 AM
Where would I find a schematic for this? Or could you post it please? Cheers
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: stevie1556 on November 19, 2014, 04:01:38 PM
Cheers guys :)

Culturejam, how do you mean by teepee? It's supposed to be 120n, but I didn't have that so I have to stick a 100n and 22n together, which has worked.

Cooder, there was one a while ago on FSB, but it's gone now, so I had to use my schematic and the layout on Tagboard Effects to get the component values (as I never include them on schematics). Here is a picture of the one I've got on my laptop though.....

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/19/7424d2e013ad70d9cba3773c1fa2981f.jpg)
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: stevie1556 on November 19, 2014, 04:01:38 PM
Culturejam, how do you mean by teepee? It's supposed to be 120n, but I didn't have that so I have to stick a 100n and 22n together, which has worked.

That's exactly what I meant. Nice work!
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: pickdropper on November 19, 2014, 05:45:37 PM
Cool build, Steve.  Nice SMT work.

A bid  of an aside, but I actually think tombstoning SMT caps can be fun in an odd sort of way.  We should have an entire thread of oddball PCB workarounds.  It can be interesting to see how other people tweak their boards.

As far as SMT reworks, this rework wasn't quite as enjoyable as most:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/Guitar%20Pedals/TombstoningResistorssmall.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/pickdropper/media/Guitar%20Pedals/TombstoningResistorssmall.jpg.html)

/threadjack
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: wgc on November 19, 2014, 05:55:57 PM
That's a spacious build!

I usually just solder the cap flat to the pcb and then solder another on top.  Fortunately don't have to do that too often.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: wgc on November 19, 2014, 05:55:57 PM
I usually just solder the cap flat to the pcb and then solder another on top. 

That works for parallel, which adds values for caps. What Steve actually did was put them in series, so the 100n + 22n yields a net capacitance of 18nF.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: cooder on November 19, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
Quote from: stevie1556 on November 19, 2014, 04:01:38 PM
Cheers guys :)

Culturejam, how do you mean by teepee? It's supposed to be 120n, but I didn't have that so I have to stick a 100n and 22n together, which has worked.

Cooder, there was one a while ago on FSB, but it's gone now, so I had to use my schematic and the layout on Tagboard Effects to get the component values (as I never include them on schematics). Here is a picture of the one I've got on my laptop though.....

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/19/7424d2e013ad70d9cba3773c1fa2981f.jpg)
Thanks for posting schematic, would you have a BOM / value list as well please? Might do a layout myself of this, thanks.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: stevie1556 on November 19, 2014, 07:15:56 PM
Forgot to mention in the first post, I hand soldered this board using 0.3mm solder, rather then using the soldering paste and hot air gun method.

WGC - Thankfully, I have most of the component values I need and don't have to do it too often either :) It's only that spacious because I like have the pots board mounted, although I do need to make a slight revision to the board (one of the taces needs removing from the back and replaced with a wire as it crosses another trace.

Pickdropper - That workaround with the caps under the legs is bloody genius! Are they 0603 size as they look really small!

Culturejam - I've just double checked my board, those caps are definitely running in parallel.

Cooder - the part values are:
R1 - 1M
R2 - 5K1
R3 - 2M2
R4 - 3K3
R5 - 390R
C1 - 120N
C2 - 47N
C3 - 47U
D1 - 1N4148
D2 - 1N4148
Q1 - 2N5088
Gain - 250KB
Vol - 250KB
Switch - SPST

If you want to build it on stripboard though, the layout is here http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=snowjob (http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=snowjob)

Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: pickdropper on November 19, 2014, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: wgc on November 19, 2014, 05:55:57 PM
I usually just solder the cap flat to the pcb and then solder another on top. 

That works for parallel, which adds values for caps. What Steve actually did was put them in series, so the 100n + 22n yields a net capacitance of 18nF.

I think they are parallel just on their sides instead of stacked.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
My bad, it looks like they are end-to-end to my squinty eyes.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: cooder on November 19, 2014, 10:52:39 PM
Quote from: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
My bad, it looks like they are end-to-end to my squinty eyes.
That's the blimmin' problem with smd... they are so feckin' small... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: stevie1556 on November 20, 2014, 12:04:43 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on November 19, 2014, 07:31:41 PM
Quote from: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 06:12:41 PM

I think they are parallel just on their sides instead of stacked.

Yep, side by side rather then stacked, I find they are a lot easier to solder in that way.

Quote from: culturejam on November 19, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
My bad, it looks like they are end-to-end to my squinty eyes.

Yep, I think I either need an eye test or magnifying glass for them soon!

Quote from: cooder on November 19, 2014, 10:52:39 PM
That's the blimmin' problem with smd... they are so feckin' small... ;D ;)

They are indeed, but it's the way of the future! I do find SMD far more enjoyable then through hole stuff (and quicker!), and just built another one of these boards up using the normal soldering method. I've had to order a new roll of 0.3mm solder, in a 150g roll, that will never run out lol

I was doing really well, building up a few Cornish Buffer boards in SMD earlier, until Mr Stupid here realised he is missing half the parts. Going to have to go through a load of BOMs tomorrow and put a big parts order in.
Title: Re: Don't Eat Yellow Snow (SMD)
Post by: stevie1556 on November 24, 2014, 06:13:27 PM
Tested out my drilling template today on 5 boxes, and it works perfectly  (one hole was less then 0.5mm out, and that was the worse one!). My new powder coat has just turned up today, which is a sparkle clear coat, and on top of the yellow base coat, looks awesome (the pictures don't do it justice. I'm going to design the label tonight and etch the boxes tomorrow after work and a mini kinda job interview, and hopefully I'll be able to get the first couple wired in by the evening (the boards are built up and the pots are attached).

New drilling template (works so well I don't need to get a CNC mill now)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/17f0b8ec6b9dbc7f81112ce3480d170e.jpg)

Boxes cooling down from being in the oven (I couldn't picture them right, I'll try again in the sunlight tomorrow)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/5f61e62c6f948abefba15e07c9aa51a8.jpg)