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Title: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Luke51411 on January 14, 2015, 01:23:36 PM
I'm not a bass player and don't have a bass to be able to breadboard and experiment with but I'm planning on building a pedal for a bass player friend. He said he really likes the Darkglass Microtubes B3K which uses CMOS but there is not schematic for it out there. He wants "something smooth and crisp. like a really good guitar tone but for a bass" This isn't the best description but I'm wondering if I could at least get somewhere in the neighborhood with something like a Red Llama with an added clean blend. Any other advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: thesameage on January 14, 2015, 02:43:15 PM
Fairfield Barbershop is supposed to be "the best" bass overdrive out there that hits all of the important marks. YMMV, of course. See this thread for more info:

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=19316.0

That said, I am able to get a nice, relatively smooth overdrive sound with my pharaoh clone with the added option of being able to get fuzzy and intense when I want to.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Jopn on January 14, 2015, 04:31:10 PM
If you check out the forum section of tagboardeffects, some guys have put together a schematic and layout of the Bearfoot Blueberry Bass Overdrive.  I've got that one half put together so far, and really looking forward to it based on the demos.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Leevibe on January 14, 2015, 04:38:00 PM
jkokura sells a board for his JMK Big Bass Drive (http://jmkpcbs.com/product/big-bass-drive/) that I'm planning to build for a friend. A couple people here had commented that it's a great circuit.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: playpunk on January 14, 2015, 04:39:19 PM
JMK Pcb's has the big bass drive, which is a BBOD clone, there are bass mods for the kingslayer, and a member here sells Roger Mayer voodoo bass overdrive boards. (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=19088.0)

Barbershop sounds good on guitar to me.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: irmcdermott on January 14, 2015, 05:22:41 PM
I'll also throw out that one of my favorite overdrives for bass has always been the Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive. Anything with a clean blend is going to help out, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: thesameage on January 14, 2015, 05:42:23 PM
I have a JMK bass board I'm not going to use if you want to buy or trade.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Luke51411 on January 14, 2015, 05:49:54 PM
I might be open to that, where are you located? I'm in the US
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: thesameage on January 14, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
NYC. PM me.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: GermanCdn on January 14, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
My uber shitty demo of various bass drives can be found here

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=14453.0

I should have had the camera pointed towards the amp, as there's way too much bleed through of the bass itself in the demo.  I'll redo it at some point using my SWR amp (as overdrives perform better with tube than SS).

FWIW, I'd build a Muff variant over an OD for bass.  If not, I'd build a Pork Loin.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Jopn on January 14, 2015, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 14, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
FWIW, I'd build a Muff variant over an OD for bass.  If not, I'd build a Pork Loin.

Ah crap, I was getting really close to finishing that BFBBBOD, I hadn't considered the Pork Loin as an option yet for bass. 

Looks like I've got another pedal in my queue now.  This sounds great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFt0NsjY-k

Actually, what I'll probably do is build the Pork Loin as a stand alone, and continue with the BFBBBOD with the intention of cramming it into a 1590bb along with a green russian.  I'm pretty sure the two of them would cover the entire spectrum of bass dirt for me.  The Pork Loin sounds like it would probably bounce back and forth between bass/guitar pedalboards.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: selfdestroyer on January 14, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: Jopn on January 14, 2015, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on January 14, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
FWIW, I'd build a Muff variant over an OD for bass.  If not, I'd build a Pork Loin.

Ah crap, I was getting really close to finishing that BFBBBOD, I hadn't considered the Pork Loin as an option yet for bass. 

Looks like I've got another pedal in my queue now.  This sounds great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFt0NsjY-k

Actually, what I'll probably do is build the Pork Loin as a stand alone, and continue with the BFBBBOD with the intention of cramming it into a 1590bb along with a green russian.  I'm pretty sure the two of them would cover the entire spectrum of bass dirt for me.  The Pork Loin sounds like it would probably bounce back and forth between bass/guitar pedalboards.

If I were you I would add Jubal81's Schooner 3PDT board on the green russian for a clean blend. They work great.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=16350.msg154886#msg154886 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=16350.msg154886#msg154886)

Cody
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: thesameage on January 14, 2015, 07:36:53 PM
I really like rullwow's pharaoh board. I'm finding that if you show some restraint, you can get a woolier overdrive/boost sound out of it. I'm working on my own hybrid version that has the "focus" knob of the musket, which helps you to control how much bass comes into the circuit to give you a tighter or flabbier sound depending on what you want. THe Pharoah has a switch to go back and forth between two values, but I like the idea of a pot better. 
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Frag Magnet on January 15, 2015, 01:43:05 AM
I don't know that he's willing to part with any boards as it's an IDA product but Rej's Behemoth sounds amazing.

Mine's a pernament fixture in my bass rig.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: 12Bass on January 15, 2015, 08:30:19 PM
Sound clips of a plethora of bass overdrive pedals: http://johnkvintageguitars.homestead.com/Overdrive-Pedals.html
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: thesameage on January 15, 2015, 09:17:33 PM
Quote from: Frag Magnet on January 15, 2015, 01:43:05 AM
I don't know that he's willing to part with any boards as it's an IDA product but Rej's Behemoth sounds amazing.

Mine's a pernament fixture in my bass rig.

Is the Behemoth based on anything?
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: Frag Magnet on January 15, 2015, 10:28:08 PM
Quote from: thesameage on January 15, 2015, 09:17:33 PM
Quote from: Frag Magnet on January 15, 2015, 01:43:05 AM
I don't know that he's willing to part with any boards as it's an IDA product but Rej's Behemoth sounds amazing.

Mine's a pernament fixture in my bass rig.

Is the Behemoth based on anything?
It's kinda Klon-ish with a quad op-amp, a JFET boost, and of course a lot of bass-optimization.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: jimilee on January 15, 2015, 11:51:58 PM
Byoc od and jmk are two of my favs. The behemoth is klonish but lives one board. Usually not something he will part with though.
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: GrindCustoms on January 16, 2015, 12:07:09 AM
Quote from: jimilee on January 15, 2015, 11:51:58 PM
Byoc od and jmk are two of my favs. The behemoth is klonish but lives one board. Usually not something he will part with though.

I have couple boards laying around, populated to the specs you and Frag where given, it have much changed now, but i could let one of those go if you're interested.

Rej
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: thesameage on January 28, 2015, 06:12:59 PM
Just got my Behemoth board today. Have to order pots (anyone know what the values are offhand?) and am thinking of putting it in an enclosure with a 1 knob engineer's thumb from JMK. 
Title: Re: Bass overdrive selection question
Post by: the3secondrule on January 28, 2015, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on January 16, 2015, 12:07:09 AM
Quote from: jimilee on January 15, 2015, 11:51:58 PM
Byoc od and jmk are two of my favs. The behemoth is klonish but lives one board. Usually not something he will part with though.

I have couple boards laying around, populated to the specs you and Frag where given, it have much changed now, but i could let one of those go if you're interested.

Rej

Hey Rej,

I'd be interested in one of these if they are still available/up for grabs? I'm still searching for my ultimate bass dirt - currently it's a heavily modded rat, a voodoo bass, and a kingslayer.

Also, I named my DAM ezekiel clone PCBs behemoth, didn't realise the name was already taken. I'll re-name them for the next run to avoid confusion ;)