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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: brand0nized on January 26, 2015, 05:03:25 AM

Title: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: brand0nized on January 26, 2015, 05:03:25 AM
I really want a nice cheap semi hollow thinline tele with humbuckers to work on, and stumbled upon this:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DIY-Electric-Guitar-Kit-Semi-Hollow-Body-F-Hole-Bolt-On-Mahogany-Neck-Thinline-Deluxe/108723_1525394867.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DIY-Electric-Guitar-Kit-Semi-Hollow-Body-F-Hole-Bolt-On-Mahogany-Neck-Thinline-Deluxe/108723_1525394867.html)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/brand0nli/Untitled_1.png)

Anyone have experiences with unbranded guitar kits or with Aliexpress?

I also found one with a gold tremolo and black pickguard that I like WAY more, but they ship from Australia...
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: selfdestroyer on January 26, 2015, 06:05:59 AM
Unfortunately asking about experience with "Aliexpress" is like asking for experience with "Amazon". Not all things are sold from one vendor, it is a collection of many shops selling items. I had a friend buy a Chinese SG and it looked great but the neck was not set properly and its been a mess of a guitar to setup. I have heard people say they bought guitars from many Aliexpress vendors and had good success stories after swapping out pot metal parts and all electronics. There are tons of YouTube videos on reviews of the Chinese guitars and most of them say, if you are a guitar tech then you can make them work in your favor. If not, save your money.

Kits might be a different beast since you will be doing most of the finishing work and fret job.

I went down this road one time looking for a strat and was so dead set on wanting it to say Fender on the headstock. I found for quality it was such a better deal to get a Squier Vintage Modified or a Squier Classic Vibe and mod it as needed. The 2 I own were great out of box and are even better with upgrades. Either embrace the Squier brand or sand off the logo and call it a "Partscaster" lol

I know this doesn't answer your question, I am simply sharing my situation and it might give you some insight on dealing with the no-name or counterfeit guitar companies.

Cody
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: alanp on January 26, 2015, 06:10:06 AM
I wouldn't go for an Alibaba vendor, unless I had firsthand reports for that particular vendor (meaning all the other vendors still need vetting, IMO.)

Rondo Music seem to get good reports, though. And my Vintage Les Paul is a cracker guitar, so their Telecasters might be worth a squiz.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: pryde on January 26, 2015, 05:29:26 PM
I would skip it. To much of a risk really.

I had a customer bring me a similar chinese kit guitar to build for him and it required extensive reworking including bridge relocation, neck pocket routing, major fretwork, etc. etc. It ended up costing him much more than anticipated.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: GermanCdn on January 26, 2015, 05:40:43 PM
+1 for the "skip it" vote.  You could get a better (finished) instrument from either Rondo or Guitarfetish for the same price, and then mod it up as you see fit (the Douglas semi hollow HH from rondo is $169, slap on an Xtrem and a TOM bridge and you're good to go.  Do not get the Tele Xtrem though, you'll have to shim the neck something fierce).
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: pickdropper on January 26, 2015, 07:07:47 PM
+2 for the skip it vote.  Too many unknowns and reports of kits like this needing a ton of work.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: billstein on January 26, 2015, 07:30:23 PM

Quote from: selfdestroyer on January 26, 2015, 06:05:59 AM
Unfortunately asking about experience with "Aliexpress" is like asking for experience with "Amazon". Not all things are sold from one vendor, it is a collection of many shops selling items. I had a friend buy a Chinese SG and it looked great but the neck was not set properly and its been a mess of a guitar to setup. I have heard people say they bought guitars from many Aliexpress vendors and had good success stories after swapping out pot metal parts and all electronics. There are tons of YouTube videos on reviews of the Chinese guitars and most of them say, if you are a guitar tech then you can make them work in your favor. If not, save your money.

Kits might be a different beast since you will be doing most of the finishing work and fret job.

I went down this road one time looking for a strat and was so dead set on wanting it to say Fender on the headstock. I found for quality it was such a better deal to get a Squier Vintage Modified or a Squier Classic Vibe and mod it as needed. The 2 I own were great out of box and are even better with upgrades. Either embrace the Squier brand or sand off the logo and call it a "Partscaster" lol

I know this doesn't answer your question, I am simply sharing my situation and it might give you some insight on dealing with the no-name or counterfeit guitar companies.

Cody

I just bought a Squire Classic Vibe 50's Strat from Sweetwater and it is a really nice guitar. I was able to pay it off with 3 manageable payments. The finish is great, the neck feels as nice as any guitar I've played. I may change pickups eventually, but the stock are not bad at all. I get that nice quack I was jonesing for.
Squire (at least in this line) has really upped their game.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: playpunk on January 26, 2015, 08:31:16 PM
I have a classic vibe 50's strat and I like it. Just my .02
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: brand0nized on January 26, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
Thanks for the affirmation. Skipping it for sure. There's actually a Rondo one, fully put together and finished, at the same price.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: justinlevitt12 on December 30, 2017, 06:51:09 PM
I have experience with the DIY guitar kits (https://guitarpickzone.com/telecaster-kits-for-sale/) however, I buy mine off ebay. I've actually built a Telecaster deluxe (with double humbuckers) from one of these kits. The quality of the body and neck are not bad at all. The only thing I have to admit is that the pickups, components and machine heads aren't great at all. If you swap those out you have yourself a great guitar!
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: fair.child on December 30, 2017, 06:56:51 PM
Save up and get piece by piece from Warmoth or Musikraft. Building a guitar that you want/dream is worth time, money, and patience. I'd rather go this way than spend money on a Chinese guitar. Their body made from cheap plywood construction and the neck is really hard to set up correctly.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: pickdropper on December 30, 2017, 08:50:31 PM
Quote from: fair.child on December 30, 2017, 06:56:51 PM
Save up and get piece by piece from Warmoth or Musikraft. Building a guitar that you want/dream is worth time, money, and patience. I'd rather go this way than spend money on a Chinese guitar. Their body made from cheap plywood construction and the neck is really hard to set up correctly.

I'd add USA Custom Guitars to that list as well.  I have aftermarket necks from Warmoth, Musikraft, USACG, Guitar Mill and WD Music and the USACG ones are probably my favorite (although I really like the Guitar Mill neck as well).
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: midwayfair on December 30, 2017, 09:43:22 PM
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People, try not to make your first post on a forum in a 3-year old thread, it looks spammy even if it's not spam.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: fair.child on December 30, 2017, 11:06:11 PM
Dave,

In my recent experience, Warmoth body is really great! However, for the neck, I'd go for Musikraft. Their fretwork is amazing. I've tried the USACG, though they are just across Warmoth office in Puyallup, WA. I can't say much about it though I am sure it's going to be good as well.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: pickdropper on December 30, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
Quote from: fair.child on December 30, 2017, 11:06:11 PM
Dave,

In my recent experience, Warmoth body is really great! However, for the neck, I'd go for Musikraft. Their fretwork is amazing. I've tried the USACG, though they are just across Warmoth office in Puyallup, WA. I can't say much about it though I am sure it's going to be good as well.

I think that, between Warmoth, USACG and Musikraft, they are all good and it really boils down to personal preference.  I have a Musikraft neck, but I actually just removed it in favor of a USACG neck.  There wasn't anything bad about it, the USACG just worked better for me personally.  Somebody else might have the exact opposite opinion.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: fair.child on December 31, 2017, 12:29:30 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on December 30, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
I have a Musikraft neck, but I actually just removed it in favor of a USACG neck.

Well said. I am waiting for the Warmoth Screamin' Deal for Flame Maple top and Pau Ferro neck.

Even Chinese nowadays give good review of Warmoth.

Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: Muadzin on January 05, 2018, 01:52:12 AM
I've always wondered when somebody does some thread necromancy, how on earth do you find these old threads, do you even notice they're old threads, and if you do, what makes you think its a good idea to jump into a conversation that is already forgotten by the original posters? Now, this may sound like an accusation, but try not too, I'm really curious as to the why.
Title: Re: Opinions Needed: DIY Thinline Tele Kit, Semi Hollow, Humbuckers, & Bigsby copy
Post by: Leevibe on January 05, 2018, 02:05:12 AM
Quote from: Muadzin on January 05, 2018, 01:52:12 AM
I've always wondered when somebody does some thread necromancy, how on earth do you find these old threads, do you even notice they're old threads, and if you do, what makes you think its a good idea to jump into a conversation that is already forgotten by the original posters? Now, this may sound like an accusation, but try not too, I'm really curious as to the why.

I have inadvertently resurrected some very old threads on forums before because they showed up in a google search. Honestly, it's just a simple mistake. It's embarrassing when you find out you've done it and it's a relief when people don't pick on you because you weren't paying attention.