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Title: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: Coda-effects on March 05, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Hello !

I have just finished this clone.

I made it on a veroboard, using the scheme from Guitar FX Layouts. Not much to tell you about the making, this is quite a straightfoward pedal to make, evenif the board is quite compact in the end ! 1uF Panasonic SMF capacitors are very space-consuming, so maybe it would be better with a slightly bigger board. I started with by drilling the holes and placing the linkers (and checking connections with a multimeter), then the IC socket, resistors, capacitors, pots and jack inputs. I used a PCB for the 3PDT to make it a bit cleaner looking, as there is already a lot of wires going everywhere (4 pots is quite a lot)... With high gauge wire (like 50), I tried to twist the cables to make a structure to maintain the veroboard in the enclosure.

I used a prepainted enclosure from Banzai music (the european version of Mammoth electronics), in vintage orange sparkle. It is a little bit more expensive than raw aluminium boxes, but it is really cleaner looking (my painting skills are not super good when it comes to enclosure spray painting...) I used the same knobs as in the Jan Ray (vintage fender, yeah !), and used a laser engraved logo.

The conception "work" done to create this pedal can be criticized a lot, but I have to recognize that it sounds very very good. Nice saturation that goes from something light like a klon, goes through blues / rock like AC/DC, to finish with a nice overdrive / distorsion. Always very nice sounding, not compressed and mushy, with a possible huuuuuge volume intake. The volume equivalent to the bypass volume is at one quarter of the knob value ! Great for soloing or to play with a volume pedal placed after it. Equalisation is reactive and allows you to add or withdraw bass and treble efficiently. It is a very transparent overdrive which respects the guitar and amplifier that you use.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gRlgOmysMzw/VPYoieh6kjI/AAAAAAAAAgc/w7gb9axyXFI/s1600/janray2.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RKU9z8EgXqs/VPYoiahOGrI/AAAAAAAAAgg/VOMu4Ja70RI/s1600/janray1.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-H8ULkBvDNfg/VPd3roZPbYI/AAAAAAAAAhw/aNqlYnMejgg/s1600/janray3.jpg)

I am currently looking at the schematics, and I have some trouble in understanding how the bass control works exactly... Can someone enlighten me on this matter ?

Thank you !
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: jimilee on March 05, 2015, 12:40:05 PM
That looks great. Very clean all the way around.


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Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: micromegas on March 05, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
Wow, that banzai enclosure looks awesome and the logo really classy ! I was thinking about ordering some enclosures from them.... once I get paid....

About the bass control, as I understand it is similar to the Timmy. You have a non-inverting stage with diodes in the feedback loop (like in almost every op-amp/diode based od out there) whose freq response is dependant of the designed network. In this case you have a bass roll-off too, so mids and highs are gained up.

You can follow a good explanation of the feedback network design on tube-screamers here:
http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/tstech/tsxtech.htm
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: Cortexturizer on March 05, 2015, 12:49:26 PM
I am always postponing building this one. Maybe I should get down to it.
yours looks amazing!
how would you compare the gain level with let's say a plexidrive from wampler, or the zendrive?
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: Coda-effects on March 05, 2015, 12:50:50 PM
QuoteAbout the bass control, as I understand it is similar to the Timmy. You have a non-inverting stage with diodes in the feedback loop (like in almost every op-amp/diode based od out there) whose freq response is dependant of the designed network. In this case you have a bass roll-off too, so mids and highs are gained up.

Oh ok (stupid me !) I got it now, the comparison with the tube screamer was helpful !

Quotehow would you compare the gain level with let's say a plexidrive from wampler, or the zendrive?
Unfortunately, I never tried a plexidrive or zendrive... But from I have heard on youtube, the jan ray is really less saturated..
As soon as I can, I will try to make sample. Next week, my brother is comming with his yamaha THR5, which sould allow good recording.

Thanks for your comments
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: flanagan0718 on March 05, 2015, 03:51:59 PM
This looks super sharp! Just added your blog to my read list.
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: chordball on March 05, 2015, 04:05:56 PM
Very nice work! I will have to try this one as well. Where/how did you make the logo plate?
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: billstein on March 05, 2015, 07:00:55 PM
Beautiful pedal. Love those knobs, anybody know who carries those in the states.
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: bcalla on March 05, 2015, 08:16:15 PM
Nicely done!  Knobs are a great match for the enclosure.
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: Rockhorst on March 05, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
Banzai must've upped their game on enclosures. They used to have only 'bulk' enclosures, that 'may have imperfections'. In fact, they looked below any par. This looks great though.
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: mcallisterra on March 05, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: billstein on March 05, 2015, 07:00:55 PM
Beautiful pedal. Love those knobs, anybody know who carries those in the states.

Mammoth does, in lots of colors.
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: pedalhealer on March 06, 2015, 07:19:34 AM
Nice build! Is the logo aluminium or plastic?
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: Coda-effects on March 06, 2015, 01:21:28 PM
Hello all !
Thanks again for your kind words
The logo is "laser engraved", technically black ink/powder is projected against a stainless steel plate. The steel is then cut in small pieces. I did not have the tools to do it myself, so i went through a french manufacturer (HPM laser) which was kind enough to make me a small quantity for a reasonable price.
Check my blog for a few details
http://codaeffects.blogspot.fr/2015/03/laser-engraved-plates.html
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: Coda-effects on March 08, 2015, 06:24:12 PM
I have just finished to record some samples... Not the best recording ever (camera mic...), but it can give you an idea of the "gainness" of the unit :



At first it is low gain with controls at noon to show the transparency of the unit. I then increased the gain and bass, and diminished a bit the trebles. When the delay is used in the end (I could not resist the appeal of the 80s sound since I got an old boss DD2), the gain is at the maximum.

I hope it can help you a bit to understand the average gain of this pedal
Title: Re: Jan Ray (aka Timmy) clone
Post by: luks999 on March 09, 2015, 08:24:58 AM
very nice and elegant. love the enclosure and the knobs ;-)